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    Let's hope that a giant dose of bad karma comes around and bites them in the arse! Utterly shameful to be trying to take the moral high ground over any organisation after leaving all these charities, businesses etc out of pocket!


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    So far two major questions from the small print -

    1, Are some of those who will benefit from the living wage rate also on zero hour contracts? The two policies seem contradictory to me.

    2, What about sub-contracted staff? I assume this would include things such as food stalls, where staff are likely to earn less than the living wage rate.
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    As someone who knows one of their employees who lost his job as a result of their financial doping, that's an incredibly shakey moral high ground Budge is trying to take on behalf of that "institution".

    The Famous indeed. The club with no shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renato View Post
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    As someone who knows one of their employees who lost his job as a result of their financial doping, that's an incredibly shakey moral high ground Budge is trying to take on behalf of that "institution".

    The Famous indeed. The club with no shame.
    Little off topic but I really cant help but cringe when their fans call themselves "the famous"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSeven View Post
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    Little off topic but I really cant help but cringe when their fans call themselves "the famous"
    They're famous in Gorgie. That's being a big team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Is that right? It defeats the whole object of help for the low paid. Surely the term 'living wage' requires having enough working hours to live on! Zero hour contracts should be illegal in all but the most exceptional circumstances IMO.
    The 'living wage' is a load of crap imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



    More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.
    What a two faced old satchel-pan.


    Did she ever complain about values when Heart of Midlothian FC were ripping off every business and charity they came in contact with?

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    They haven't paid a living soul never mind a living wage

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    Quote Originally Posted by deano88 View Post
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    The 'living wage' is a load of crap imo.
    Perhaps you already live off of much more?
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    They haven't paid a living soul never mind a living wage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Reid View Post
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    Nearly choked on my tea when I heard that fat **** Ian Murray on STV News talking (with a completely straight face) about how this is "entirely in keeping with the principles that the club and the supporters hold dearly."
    It's a given that journalists rarely ask "difficult" questions these days.

    I would have asked the fat slavering, freeloading, trough-nosed, expense fiddler for some past examples of these principles, and also if the club had ever failed to meet them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deano88 View Post
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    The 'living wage' is a load of crap imo.


    ....an extra pound an hour will have their employees really living the high life pfft! Just imagine, they'll be able to afford a night out at the cinema....as long as they're careful and don't spend anything on luxuries like pop corn or a drink of juice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Perhaps you already live off of much more?
    I do at the moment and I have lived off less than living wage in the past, but that's not really relevant.

    The reason I think it's a lot of crap is that not everybody is the same. The living wage of £7.65 applies to anyone outside London - to suggest the cost of living is the same everywhere outside London is utter nonsense.

    Even in the same street people will have different costs of living. Bigger people need more energy than small people so will need to eat more (which costs more), people have different travel costs to get to work, some houses are better insulated than other so will cost more/less to heat.

    I know it's all averages but doesn't solve the problem imo.

    Edit: And not everyone works the same number of hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deano88 View Post
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    I do at the moment and I have lived off less than living wage in the past, but that's not really relevant.

    The reason I think it's a lot of crap is that not everybody is the same. The living wage of £7.65 applies to anyone outside London - to suggest the cost of living is the same everywhere outside London is utter nonsense.

    Even in the same street people will have different costs of living. Bigger people need more energy than small people so will need to eat more (which costs more), people have different travel costs to get to work, some houses are better insulated than other so will cost more/less to heat.

    I know it's all averages but doesn't solve the problem imo.

    Edit: And not everyone works the same number of hours.
    Regional variations in the cost of living are a reality, but anything that helps the lowest paid is progress. We have a huge problem with low pay and casualization of labour.
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    How noble of a football team to pay their staff a 'living wage' while the playing staff earn a kings ransom for kicking a leather ball about a field for 90 minutes a week. Not something to be shouting about but thats hearts for you.
    Football clubs in general should be trying to lower the amount the players are being paid across the board, not screaming from the rooftops about how their other staff are paid £1 an hour more than minimum wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    All employees will be paid at least £7.65 per hour; £1.15 per hour more than the national minimum wage. They are the first Scottish football club to introduce the scheme. Full credit to them for making this progressive move, and let's hope Hibs do the same.

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    After the Yams track record any Hibby that comes on here and praises them for this should be ashamed of themselves

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    Have they paid the appearance and bonus money to former players yet? over half a million quid wasn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolman View Post
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    After the Yams track record any Hibby that comes on here and praises them for this should be ashamed of themselves

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    I wonder how many of their staff are paid less than the living wage at present? Contractors won't be included which could be cleaners, catering staff and others. Grandstanding from Shameless FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Fring View Post
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    What part of them impressed you? The charity robbing? The creditor shafting? The redundancies?

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    Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



    More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.
    I did notice the irony in that statement there!

    What "values" would that be then, Ann?

    Is that the same values that saw your club rip off countless small businesses in recent years, whilst racking up millions of pounds worth of debt on your way to trying to buy success, and now that it's all gone pear shaped, your club has failed to pay any of them back?

    Just checking.

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    So far two major questions from the small print -

    1, Are some of those who will benefit from the living wage rate also on zero hour contracts? The two policies seem contradictory to me.

    2, What about sub-contracted staff? I assume this would include things such as food stalls, where staff are likely to earn less than the living wage rate.
    They don't even earn minimum wage as most of them are under 18.

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    Little off topic but I really cant help but cringe when their fans call themselves "the famous"
    I'm just waiting on them getting a Barcelona inspired "Mes que un club" slogan painted into their seats at Tynecastle.

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    The fact Hearts feel the need to shout from the rooftops about this tells you all you need to know about them really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



    More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.
    I believe it is entirely "in keeping" other people's money that Heart's values cost others dear.

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    Taking the moral high ground....Jesus wept

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    Are there any other legal requirements or morally right things to do that Jimmie Crankies big sister is likely to announce next?

    Will there be a press conference to announce that last months council tax was actually paid? Or how about an EEN exclusive - Hearts finally pay their football debt?

    Gorgie newsagent gets his £40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital View Post
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    How noble of a football team to pay their staff a 'living wage' while the playing staff earn a kings ransom for kicking a leather ball about a field for 90 minutes a week. Not something to be shouting about but thats hearts for you.
    Football clubs in general should be trying to lower the amount the players are being paid across the board, not screaming from the rooftops about how their other staff are paid £1 an hour more than minimum wage.

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