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    Eoin Doyle on fire

    Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

    Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.



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    I posted about him on a thread a few weeks back about ex players doing well for someone to criticise him and say he's nothing special. He will be in the Championship next season at this rate, big miss imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs1992 View Post
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    Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

    Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.


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    He always had the potential to be a good striker, granted it wasn't the potential Griffiths has which is why he played second fiddle to him. Maybe now that he's the main man in his team he's risen to the occasion and is able to competently take on the responsibility of a #9.

    I remember thinking at the end of his last season with us that we needed better than him and only then we would push on (under the assumption that we would be keeping Sparky), but had we kept him on as our main striker and the replacement for Griffiths' goals, I don't think we'd be in the division we are in now. He has a good engine, pace, and reads the game well and I think he'll go on to have a good career down South, possibly in the Championship.

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    Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?
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    Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?
    Every player who leaves Hibs seems to go and do well, our club is cursed

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    Always liked him, glad he's doing great down there. Cracking few days for him!

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    Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?
    It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

    Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

    Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

    These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

    Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

    The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!

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    Sparky would have scored 20 goals by now in that league
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    It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

    Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

    Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

    These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

    Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

    The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!
    Great post.

    So true about players being played out of position and basically ruining them.

    Agree with everything you said - sad but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?
    Not true

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFamous1875 View Post
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    It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

    Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

    Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

    These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

    Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

    The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!
    Great post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibeesmad View Post
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    Every player who leaves Hibs seems to go and do well, our club is cursed
    Mince and mince again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?
    He was a decent player with us. It's no surprise he is doing well.
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    I think that, in general, a struggling team will usually be worse than the sum of its parts. There will always be a few players who would perform better in a team that was playing well, or just differently.

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    The Scottish game did not suit him. He struggled to retain the ball and was at bad at heading as Collins. Delighted he's doing well for himself.

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    Isn't the left back currently at Hull, that Celtc let go for free, a better example just now? I know that there is no chance of self harm with that one but I guess it all depends on the general point that you want to make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    Sparky would have scored 20 goals by now in that league
    Sparky was in that league this time last season! Not sure exactly how many he did score by this time? Bet it's less!

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    Good luck to him, one great memory was his superb half volley v Aberdeen at Pittodrie ..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67AonA2jR4

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFamous1875 View Post
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    It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

    Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

    Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

    These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

    Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

    The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!
    Great post! The confusion at our club is a chronic problem as you say, and a reason why we need to give Stubbs a good stretch of time as there is a lot to sort out.. I just hope that the people at the club who understand football recognise the problems so they can address them. Ive written off any high expectations for this season, although the play offs will give us something to realistically aim for. Meanwhile, Im hoping we can move in the right direction…

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyhibbie View Post
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    Good luck to him, one great memory was his superb half volley v Aberdeen at Pittodrie ..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67AonA2jR4
    Was at that game and it came out of nothing .great strike but he wasn't doing that week in week out but he certainly gave his all and tracked back for the team as well

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    Good luck to him, but I'll judge him on his time playing in our side. Occasionally pulled something out the bag, but more often than not was anonymous. Wasn't sad to see him go.

    Won't be the last player to underwhelm at Hibs then go on to do well. In the same way David Stephens won't be the last person to underwhelm at Hibs then go on to do *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs1992 View Post
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    Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

    Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.

    Hibs offered ED a new contract but he turned it down .
    The header he missed early doors in the SC final against Celtic summed up his time with us im afraid .
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    Mince and mince again.
    Really? You don't think that Hibs have made a mess of things?

    Doyle left us after accepting an offer from Chesterfield - with rumours that we only offered him a contract on reduced terms, no wonder he went elsewhere. We lost an adaptable player who could play wide or through the middle, turns out he's developed into quite a striker and could have helped us cope with the loss of LG.

    Instead we signed James Collins.

    It's been a mess. Let's hope those days are behind us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomoseven View Post
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    Really? You don't think that Hibs have made a mess of things?

    Doyle left us after accepting an offer from Chesterfield - with rumours that we only offered him a contract on reduced terms, no wonder he went elsewhere. We lost an adaptable player who could play wide or through the middle, turns out he's developed into quite a striker and could have helped us cope with the loss of LG.

    Instead we signed James Collins.

    It's been a mess. Let's hope those days are behind us.


    He said that nearly every player that leaves us goes onto better things and he also said that we are "cursed". Both statements are utter mince.

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    Was at that game and it came out of nothing .great strike but he wasn't doing that week in week out but he certainly gave his all and tracked back for the team as well
    I think, like Sproule he was a raw talent, a bit rough round the edges but no doubt with decent coaching he could have turned out a good player for us ..I liked him & its good to see he is now happy down south & in particular, scoring goals ..

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    He said that nearly every player that leaves us goes onto better things and he also said that we are "cursed". Both statements are utter mince.
    Ok, not literally true. We've given contracts to plenty of players who simply weren't good enough, and proved that by failing to win a contract at a decent level elsewhere after leaving us. And no, I don't believe in witchcraft.

    However, something has clearly been very wrong. Are you content to admonish those who complain about this? I'm not. I want it to change.

    In Eoin Doyle's case, here is a player that we should have pushed the boat out to keep, but didn't. Yet more evidence of a failed strategy.

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    Matt Done has also been banging goals in lately - Rochdale I think? scored again last night - though never rated him. I think Doyle didn't get the best of times here as probably in Sparky's shadow in terms of number of goals scored

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    Doyle's movement was great, he just couldn't hit a barn door up here for some reason or other. I was a critic of him when he was here but I'd have him back over the strikers we've had the last 2 seasons i.e. Heff, Collins, Vine etc.

    Good to see him doing well though, will eternally love him for that goal v Falkirk.

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