AGM, vote of No confidence in Rod

***SneakersO'Toole*** · 02-09-2014 04:44 PM

If we can make contact with enough of the minority shareholders, what about a signed petition by shareholders to be presented to STF.

**Colr** · 02-09-2014 04:52 PM

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Maybe the best thing is to protest in a sensible way, instead of putting innocent people's jobs on the line. Nobody is saying "do nothing" but boycotting his business is not the right way to go.

People should treat this as business, and not let personalities come into it. Unleashing hot headed football supporters into a situation that needs cool heads is a recipe for disaster.

Look at how the ill thought out coup in the summer split the support.

Who said being hot headed? It's a case of spreading the points of communication of grievances more widely so he'll pay attention. Using them to embarrass him into action. Doesn't require a boycott but if people took their trade elsewhere, fine, but not critical. It's about face and reputation which are more important to him.

**Pretty Boy** · 02-09-2014 04:53 PM

Small shareholders don't have the power to pass a vote of no confidence.

Hearts fans tried it for years by refusing to re-elect Roman Romanov as chairman at their AGM but all it took was for Vlads representative to raise his hand in support of the proposal and it was passed. If STF wants Rod as Chairman then he will remain in that position. A vote of no confidence is proposed, the majority shareholders (Rod and STF) vote it down. Goodnight Vienna.

Stuff like this is all just wishful thinking anyway. Look at the forums and whilst there is anger a sizeable number, probably a majority, want no part of any protests or action be it direct or indirect. Without a clear consensus, mandate and majority support any plan is doomed to failure. We are every bit as impotent as Hearts fans under Vlad, Celtic fans under the Kellys or Rangers fans under Whyte.

***Bostonhibby*** · 02-09-2014 04:54 PM

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If we can make contact with enough of the minority shareholders, what about a signed petition by shareholders to be presented to STF.

Sensible idea if he'd accept it, if not at least there would be a number to refer to at the AGM and in more public forums.

***jacomo*** · 02-09-2014 04:55 PM

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Hibs fans need to take the protests elsewhere an target other business interests of the owner.

Are you for real?

I want STF and Rod to move on, but 'targeting' STF's other businesses to make a point? Total nonsense. Protests should be focused on Hibs because that's the focus of our attention and where the problem lies.

***Bostonhibby*** · 02-09-2014 04:56 PM

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Small shareholders don't have the power to pass a vote of no confidence.

Hearts fans tried it for years by refusing to re-elect Roman Romanov as chairman at their AGM but all it took was for Vlads representative to raise his hand in support of the proposal and it was passed. If STF wants Rod as Chairman then he will remain in that position.

Stuff like this is all just wishful thinking anyway. Look at the forums just and whilst there is anger a sizeable number, probably a majority, want no part of any protests or action be it direct or indirect. Without a clear consensus, mandate and majoritu support any plan is doomed to failure.

Its true they can't but you can still say a large number have no confidence in whichever member they want. Numbers needed.

**schinkenotto** · 02-09-2014 05:05 PM

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If we can make contact with enough of the minority shareholders, what about a signed petition by shareholders to be presented to STF.

Fair enough,but the irony is that STF GIFTED the shares,which the minority shareholders now own to them!

***Hermit Crab*** · 02-09-2014 05:07 PM

I think the board has to be told in no uncertain terms that we, the fans, shareholders or not, season ticket holders or walk ups are no longer willing to accept this mediocrity, lack of ambition and general mismanagement from the club. I'd draft a letter explaining this then get as many signatures from fans as possible by going round the Hibs club and other bars on match days then submit it at the agm and ask the board to explain themselves, fix it and if they can't fix it then seriously consider their positions as leading members of Hibernian fc.

**Pretty Boy** · 02-09-2014 05:11 PM

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I think the board has to be told in no uncertain terms that we, the fans, shareholders or not, season ticket holders or walk ups are no longer willing to accept this mediocrity, lack of ambition and general mismanagement from the club. I'd draft a letter explaining this then get as many signatures from fans as possible by going round the Hibs club and other bars on match days then submit it at the agm and ask the board to explain themselves, fix it and if they can't fix it then seriously consider their positions as leading members of Hibernian fc.

This site sent an open letter with over 200 signatures to the board proposing no confidence in Rod. Paul Kane had 1500+ people gather outside the stadium to say much the same thing. Almosy every affiliated supporters club has made their position on Rod and the board clear. The club to all intents and purposes ignored them all.

We could present a petition with 10000 signatures. They'd just ignore it. It's very frustrating but there isn't much we can do.

**~~Phil D. Rolls~~** · 02-09-2014 05:15 PM

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Who said being hot headed? It's a case of spreading the points of communication of grievances more widely so he'll pay attention. Using them to embarrass him into action. Doesn't require a boycott but if people took their trade elsewhere, fine, but not critical. It's about face and reputation which are more important to him.

Sorry, whether its done with a cool head, or not, involving people who are just trying to make a living is out of order. It's not like his employees are responsible for our unhappiness, is it?

***Hermit Crab*** · 02-09-2014 05:17 PM

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This site sent an open letter with over 200 signatures to the board proposing no confidence in Rod. Paul Kane had 1500+ people gather outside the stadium to say much the same thing. Almosy every affiliated supporters club has made their position on Rod and the board clear. The club to all intents and purposes ignored them all.

We could present a petition with 10000 signatures. They'd just ignore it. It's very frustrating but there isn't much we can do.

Well then only thing left to do is turn up to the Cowdenbeath match but do not go into the stadium but just remain outside the turnstiles in protest. I know it won't be popular with everyone as season tickets holders will have to take the hit of losing out on a match paid for but I'm prepared to do that. They'd lose money through walk ups, no that there would be many anyway. A 90 minute protest behind the main stand.

I realise this will have an impact on the players but if we can get the message across that's it's not the players or coaching staff we are protesting against then it could be a goer.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-09-2014 05:20 PM

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This site sent an open letter with over 200 signatures to the board proposing no confidence in Rod. Paul Kane had 1500+ people gather outside the stadium to say much the same thing. Almosy every affiliated supporters club has made their position on Rod and the board clear. The club to all intents and purposes ignored them all.

We could present a petition with 10000 signatures. They'd just ignore it. It's very frustrating but there isn't much we can do.

I was surprised that one letter was the extent of this sites actions, only protests on a regular occurrence will smoke these buffoons out. If you think this club is going nowhere under them, making STF and Petrie uncomfortable ALL the time should be the aim.

***Bostonhibby*** · 02-09-2014 05:22 PM

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Fair enough,but the irony is that STF GIFTED the shares,which the minority shareholders now own to them!

Not sure, I know quite a few bought them.I did.

***lucky*** · 02-09-2014 05:24 PM

I'm not expecting a vote of no confidence to be carried but it will a symbolic public effort in front off the media and board

**Pretty Boy** · 02-09-2014 05:25 PM

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I was surprised that one letter was the extent of this sites actions, only protests on a regular occurrence will smoke these buffoons out. If you think this club is going nowhere under them, making STF and Petrie uncomfortable ALL the time should be the aim.

Tbh we are here to provide a platform for people to have a discussion. Not to jump into bed with the club or go to war with them. We have no mandate to speak on behalf of the membership and registered users.

We sent a letter signed by the admin team and asked if anyone wished to include their names. Maybe we could do more but we don't have any authority to speak on behalf of others.

***lucky*** · 02-09-2014 05:27 PM

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Fair enough,but the irony is that STF GIFTED the shares,which the minority shareholders now own to them!

Not the case, mines were bought as a gift for me. It did take around 2 years to do it but we kept on trying. The share STF gifted were to fans who had bought them previously. The shares we all own are really worthless as RP and STF control the club

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-09-2014 05:30 PM

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Tbh we are here to provide a platform for people to have a discussion. Not to jump into bed with the club or go to war with them. We have no mandate to speak on behalf of the membership and registered users.

We sent a letter signed by the admin team and asked if anyone wished to include their names. Maybe we could do more but we don't have any authority to speak on behalf of others.

I understand that.

I know there is not much any of us can do individually, but we are stronger together. And if the admins felt that strongly to fire the letter off, is there still that anger amongst them to do more?

Any admin who wants to organise a pro Petrie party could also do so.

**Pretty Boy** · 02-09-2014 05:36 PM

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I understand that.

I know there is not much any of us can do individually, but we are stronger together. And if the admins felt that strongly to fire the letter off, is there still that anger amongst them to do more?

Any admin who wants to organise a pro Petrie party could also do so.

I'm still angry.

I went along to the 1st few meeting Kano had and also to the meeting with LD and reported back whilst asking a few questions and making the odd point myself.

Tbh a few of the accusations about 'bullying', 'attention seeking', 'angry little men' and others stung a bit and if that's how what seemed a sizeable minority feel then I'm out.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 02-09-2014 05:37 PM

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I'm still angry.

I went along to the 1st few meeting Kano had and also to the meeting with LD and reported back whilst asking a few questions and making the odd point myself.

Tbh a few of the accusations about 'bullying', 'attention seeking', 'angry little men' and others stung a bit and if that's how what seemed a sizeable minority feel then I'm out.

Fair enough.

***Bostonhibby*** · 02-09-2014 06:01 PM

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I'm not expecting a vote of no confidence to be carried but it will a symbolic public effort in front off the media and board

Agree, that's where any value lies and journos are not bothered about the fine detail as we know, a large number of shareholders (which is what it would amount to measured against the other two) all expressing the same dissatisfaction is an easy story.

***silverhibee*** · 02-09-2014 06:02 PM

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Are you for real?

I want STF and Rod to move on, but 'targeting' STF's other businesses to make a point? Total nonsense. Protests should be focused on Hibs because that's the focus of our attention and where the problem lies.

£90 for 2 tyres at Farmer auto care for a Renault clio, it's not just Hibs fans who get a raw deal from STF.

**schinkenotto** · 03-09-2014 12:37 PM

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Not the case, mines were bought as a gift for me. It did take around 2 years to do it but we kept on trying. The share STF gifted were to fans who had bought them previously. The shares we all own are really worthless as RP and STF control the club

Thanks for the correction.Your shares must have been bought from someone,who got them from STF.Mine were certainly gifted by STF,since I had bought a fair number of Forth Investments shares in the market to try to stop Mercer.Forth Investments of course became valueless.

As you say the shares are effectively worthless,simply a token effort to maintain a connection with our beloved club.

**~~southsider~~** · 03-09-2014 01:35 PM

So, can i write to the chairman with my full name and address (along with my seconder) stating that we intend to raise a motion of no confidence in the board at the comming AGM ? Must he agree to this ?

***lucky*** · 03-09-2014 09:19 PM

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So, can i write to the chairman with my full name and address (along with my seconder) stating that we intend to raise a motion of no confidence in the board at the comming AGM ? Must he agree to this ?

I don't know the answer but I'm happy to second the motion.

**Weststandwanab** · 05-09-2014 08:30 AM

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Can we not have a vote of no confidence in Rod Petrie at the AGM? I know it would fail but if all of the small shareholders voted against him then at least it would put more pressure on him and STF to remove him. Hibernian will not move forward whilst he is at the club.

Pointless.

Originally Posted by southsider

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So, can i write to the chairman with my full name and address (along with my seconder) stating that we intend to raise a motion of no confidence in the board at the comming AGM ? Must he agree to this ?

Yes but pointless