Heffernan turns down St Johnstone move

***Billy Whizz*** · 28-08-2014 07:13 PM

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Did Heff not take a wage cut to join us?
Might be totally wrong

Don't think so, thought we took over his contract from Killie

***Baldy Foghorn*** · 28-08-2014 07:14 PM

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Admit it matey, that's just one of your many fantasy's involving Rod.

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 07:18 PM

My worry (and to be honest I've not much against Heffernan) is that we need cover for David Gray (proper cover) and I do think we need a very mobile striker, not that Jason Cummings isn't, but I think we need real energy up top......

I still have a sneaky suspicion that McFadden is well on Stubbs's radar, no sources to say for sure, just bizarre how a player of his quality is still unattached. I know we were in for Hope however - and to be honest I think a player like that would burn up this league.

Going to throw a wee poser out there too.......if Hibs went for Scott Robinson would people cut him slack ?

***Aldo*** · 28-08-2014 07:32 PM

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My worry (and to be honest I've not much against Heffernan) is that we need cover for David Gray (proper cover) and I do think we need a very mobile striker, not that Jason Cummings isn't, but I think we need real energy up top...... I still have a sneaky suspicion that McFadden is well on Stubbs's radar, no sources to say for sure, just bizarre how a player of his quality is still unattached. I know we were in for Hope however - and to be honest I think a player like that would burn up this league. Going to throw a wee poser out there too.......if Hibs went for Scott Robinson would people cut him slack ?

Not seen enough of Robinson to comment. If he came in.... Did a decent job and took responsibility then I''d be ok with it.

What you hearing TH??

***Eyrie*** · 28-08-2014 07:41 PM

Very strange - a player of his age gets the chance of a longer deal on more money in a higher league and turns it down? Either the reported facts are wrong or there's something else going on, because I don't believe Heffernan is staying just for the facilities at East Mains.

That said, if he can produce commitment on the pitch to match the spin in the article then we'll be pleased that he's still here regardless of the true reason.

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Aldo

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Not seen enough of Robinson to comment. If he came in.... Did a decent job and took responsibility then I''d be ok with it.

What you hearing TH??

Only hearing that he would be keen (Hibs fan despite his press stuff last year) and that he is peed off getting released (or told he is no longer required) - he is tidy as a player, decent as a holding type in front of the central pairing - has a wee nasty streak in him. Knows Scottish football and where we are in a league with Hearts, he may want to prove something - I like players who have something to prove and are still young enough to want it.

**DC_Hibs** · 28-08-2014 07:49 PM

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My worry is that we need cover for David Gray (proper cover)

if Hibs went for Scott Robinson would people cut him slack ?

Forget about "cover". We will add 1 or 2 max and these need to be first picks as there are still plenty glaring deficiencies to address. Thankfully Stubbs won't be looking for cover.

That also applies to the second suggestion of signing a laddie released by Hertz????????????????

***Aldo*** · 28-08-2014 07:50 PM

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Only hearing that he would be keen (Hibs fan despite his press stuff last year) and that he is peed off getting released (or told he is no longer required) - he is tidy as a player, decent as a holding type in front of the central pairing - has a wee nasty streak in him. Knows Scottish football and where we are in a league with Hearts, he may want to prove something - I like players who have something to prove and are still young enough to want it.

If AS thinks he's good enough to do a job then I'd be happy with that.

Not ITK but I do think there are a few comings and goings prior to the end of the window.

***lord bunberry*** · 28-08-2014 07:55 PM

Good on him, he could've taken the money and run but he's shown a desire to stay and fight for his place, and hopefully right a few wrongs. If the whole squad is happy to do the same then that's half the battle

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 07:57 PM

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Forget about "cover". We will add 1 or 2 max and these need to be first picks as there are still plenty glaring deficiencies to address. Thankfully Stubbs won't be looking for cover.

That also applies to the second suggestion of signing a laddie released by Hertz????????????????

I'd suggest we need 'cover' for right back, as we have Hanlon/Gardiner/Forster/Fontaine for CH's and we have Booth/Stevenson for left back.

When I said cover perhaps I should have said 'competition'. I still think if DG gets injured, we need a player who can get up the flank and defend properly.

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 07:59 PM

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If AS thinks he's good enough to do a job then I'd be happy with that.

Not ITK but I do think there are a few comings and goings prior to the end of the window.

I'm not saying AS is keen Aldo mate, only that SR is keen - I only posed the question because last year he said some things about Hibs (media promptings) that may make it hard for him to connect with the fans - he reminds me of Michael Stewart - good player, arrogant bar steward, could actually be a 'Hibs gain'

**Beefster** · 28-08-2014 08:05 PM

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Stevie May Sale...

That would be a right kick in the stanes if you were a St Johnstone fan. Sell Stevie May and use some of the money to sign Heffernan.

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 08:09 PM

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That would be a right kick in the stanes if you were a St Johnstone fan. Sell Stevie May and use some of the money to sign Heffernan.

St Johnstone always have me scratching my head beefster......Preston always always waxes lyrical about them being well run, yet I often see who they have signed and wonder 'how on earth are they affording that' - not sure what incentives are offered, if any, but certainly based on crowds and merchandising they are a club that are not only punching above their weight, but they must be offering other incentives........good club, delighted that they beat Aberdeen

but their board must invest a fair bit surely

**Green Fish** · 28-08-2014 08:15 PM

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St Johnstone always have me scratching my head beefster......Preston always always waxes lyrical about them being well run, yet I often see who they have signed and wonder 'how on earth are they affording that' - not sure what incentives are offered, if any, but certainly based on crowds and merchandising they are a club that are not only punching above their weight, but they must be offering other incentives........good club, delighted that they beat Aberdeen

but their board must invest a fair bit surely

From what I heard from a mate who supports them is that the owner is a very shrewd businessman. Owns a fair bit of land and buys and sells it when needed

**Hfc_Since1875** · 28-08-2014 08:20 PM

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St Johnstone always have me scratching my head beefster......Preston always always waxes lyrical about them being well run, yet I often see who they have signed and wonder 'how on earth are they affording that' - not sure what incentives are offered, if any, but certainly based on crowds and merchandising they are a club that are not only punching above their weight, but they must be offering other incentives........good club, delighted that they beat Aberdeen

but their board must invest a fair bit surely

I know someone at st johnstone and they are very well run, really do live within their means and dont spend what they dont have!

They invested VERY little this summer, infact cut their wage bill, one thing they do is plan short term and with the exception of a few players they keep contracts to 1-2 years so that should they be relegated then they can quickly downsize accordingly

Was delighted when they won the cup!

**~~Scott Allan Key~~** · 28-08-2014 08:23 PM

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St Johnstone always have me scratching my head beefster......Preston always always waxes lyrical about them being well run, yet I often see who they have signed and wonder 'how on earth are they affording that' - not sure what incentives are offered, if any, but certainly based on crowds and merchandising they are a club that are not only punching above their weight, but they must be offering other incentives........good club, delighted that they beat Aberdeen

but their board must invest a fair bit surely

I'm pretty sure the 'incentives' may include housing. Geoff Brown was a property developer.

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 08:29 PM

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I'm pretty sure the 'incentives' may include housing. Geoff Brown was a property developer.

I've heard that but if true I've often wondered why Hibs don't do that - Sir Tom owns a lot of residential property in Edinburgh, a lot !

There's some good players signed for St Johnstone and some used to good pay - like you say though, like them as a club and I know two or three Saintees so it was only a curiosity - often thought we could do with Dave MacKay at the back too - nails !

**~~Stuarty27~~** · 28-08-2014 08:30 PM

Can't believe this, gutted tbh!

Hefferman can't run and offers very little in general play. The guy who sits next to me keeps telling me he is a penalty box player, but does he even score that many, what's his Hibs ratio??

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 08:32 PM

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Can't believe this, gutted tbh!

Hefferman can't run and offers very little in general play. The guy who sits next to me keeps telling me he is a penalty box player, but does he even score that many, what's his Hibs ratio??

Hibs ratio = injured more often than not, usually in the warm up !

***JimBHibees*** · 28-08-2014 08:32 PM

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Very strange - a player of his age gets the chance of a longer deal on more money in a higher league and turns it down? Either the reported facts are wrong or there's something else going on, because I don't believe Heffernan is staying just for the facilities at East Mains.

That said, if he can produce commitment on the pitch to match the spin in the article then we'll be pleased that he's still here regardless of the true reason.

Would be amazed if Heff wasn't away prob to England by Monday.

***JimBHibees*** · 28-08-2014 08:34 PM

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Only hearing that he would be keen (Hibs fan despite his press stuff last year) and that he is peed off getting released (or told he is no longer required) - he is tidy as a player, decent as a holding type in front of the central pairing - has a wee nasty streak in him. Knows Scottish football and where we are in a league with Hearts, he may want to prove something - I like players who have something to prove and are still young enough to want it.

He would be a reasonable fit IMO.

**GreenArmy1875** · 28-08-2014 08:39 PM

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Only hearing that he would be keen (Hibs fan despite his press stuff last year) and that he is peed off getting released (or told he is no longer required) - he is tidy as a player, decent as a holding type in front of the central pairing - has a wee nasty streak in him. Knows Scottish football and where we are in a league with Hearts, he may want to prove something - I like players who have something to prove and are still young enough to want it.

Defo not a hibs fan, Celtic fan. Played with at Hutchison Vale and Hearts.

**heretoday** · 28-08-2014 08:47 PM

He must be getting more money here.

I'm too cynical to believe that he wants to stay and fight for his place etc etc.

***s.a.m*** · 28-08-2014 08:57 PM

Maybe he's got family / personal reasons for wanting to stay in Edinburgh.

Does he have children?

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 08:58 PM

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Defo not a hibs fan, Celtic fan. Played with at Hutchison Vale and Hearts.

Not what I'm hearing

**leggeto** · 28-08-2014 09:01 PM

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How can StJ afford to pay more than Hibs even allowing for us being in a lower league?

Everyone got their wage cut in half after relegation

**GreenArmy1875** · 28-08-2014 09:08 PM

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Not what I'm hearing

Unless he changed to being a hibby while at Hearts then he was a Celtic fan

**truehibernian** · 28-08-2014 09:12 PM

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Unless he changed to being a hibby while at Hearts then he was a Celtic fan

Hey if you know him mate, fair doos - just not what I was told this week. Saying that, I played with Hutchie and trained with them......and look at me