Liam Fontaine joins Hibs - 1 year contract

[Keith_M]

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Wondering when this will be announced, if he is set to play tonight...

The article mentioned one piece of paperwork still to sign so maybe waiting till it's 100% then announce it on the website.

If this goes through, it'll make me happy as I felt we were still short in a few positions. Now let's push the boat out and get a/nother* prolific goalscorer please




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[R11Loaded]

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The article mentioned one piece of paperwork still to sign so maybe waiting till it's 100% then announce it on the website.

If this goes through, it'll make me happy as I felt we were still short in a few positions. Now let's push the boat out and get a/nother* prolific goalscorer please




* Trying to avoid any arguments over El Alagui

I think a new central midfielder who won't bottle it to take the game to an opponent


Class doesn't show on a maroon jersey

[GreenCastle]

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/top...liam-fontaine/

[Stevie Reid]

Very pleased.

[TRC]

Think we need a scott brown type player in the middle. Someone to put their foot on the ball as well as noise up players!

[Keith_M]

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Think we need a scott brown type player in the middle. Someone to put their foot on the ball as well as noise up players!

Maybe we'll just go the whole hog and get Brown himself. He might be announced this week.... when Griffiths is paraded at the press conference

[Borderhibbie76]

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Cheers bud.

Well done TC never let us down. .can u now give us a scoop on a prolific striker signing please :)

[brydekirk]

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Think we need a scott brown type player in the middle. Someone to put their foot on the ball as well as noise up players!

This

[bingo70]

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Think we need a scott brown type player in the middle. Someone to put their foot on the ball as well as noise up players!

See Scott Robinson has been released by hearts.

(I'm only half joking, I've actually always thought he was quite good against us)

[SanFranHibs]

This is a genuine question and in no way am I suggesting that anyone we sign is not given our support but do you consider Liam Fontaine a 'quality' player, the kind that will have the ticket office staff rushed off their feet trying to keep up with the demand for season tickets? Or is he another journeyman? Or indeed someone with no where else to go as it seems that Yeovil are not interested in signing him, let alone Bristol City. Is the quality of player we have been 'holding out' for?

Years Team Apps (Gls)
2004–2006 Fulham 1 (0)
2004 Yeovil Town (loan) 15 (0)
2005 Kilmarnock (loan) 3 (0)
2005 Yeovil Town (loan) 10 (0)
2006 Bristol City (loan) 15 (0)
2006–2014 Bristol City 247 (6)
2013–2014 Yeovil Town (loan) 5 (0)

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Frankly, if this happens (And according to the Scotsman he is playing tonight, but a more recent report on the BBC claims we are trying to sign him) I will of course be giving him my full support but am just wondering if the board's state of mind is in exactly the same place as the past few years, 'We want them cheap'.

Seems Bristol loaned him out as he endured a torrid relegation season and was low in confidence and a target for the boo boys. Should fit in then.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Loaning...ail/story.html

This really is not a 'negative' post although some will say it is. It's not!!! The players Stubbs has brought in, especially it seems Allan and Kennedy seem good players so he must have seen enough of this player, although I can't imagine where and when and it seems he did not come for a trial, to feel confident he can tighten up our defence.

And of course he comes to a club where players on a confidence low are given full support from our fans and not a boo boy to be heard!

Just a genuine question on the quality of the 'signing' as opposed to the quality of the player. What I mean by that is if LG had somehow signed I think we all would accept it was a 'quality' signing, a show of intent by the board of quality over quantity, even if it somehow went all wrong. Our other signings, which Liam Fontaine seems to fall into, is we sign them and hope for the best that they prove themselves quality signings. We we wont be able to judge Fontaine for at least twenty minutes

But if he is here, he gets my full support short of running through the streets of Paris shouting 'Vive la Republique', 'Vive la Fontaine', whereas if LG was to sign up soon.....'Vive la qualité'.

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This is a genuine question and in no way am I suggesting that anyone we sign is not given our support but do you consider Liam Fontaine a 'quality' player, the kind that will have the ticket office staff rushed off their feet trying to keep up with the demand for season tickets? Or is he another journeyman? Or indeed someone with no where else to go as it seems that Yeovil are not interested in signing him, let alone Bristol City. Is the quality of player we have been 'holding out' for?



Frankly, if this happens (And according to the Scotsman he is playing tonight, but a more recent report on the BBC claims we are trying to sign him) I will of course be giving him my full support but am just wondering if the board's state of mind is in exactly the same place as the past few years, 'We want them cheap'.

Seems Bristol loaned him out as he endured a torrid relegation season and was low in confidence and a target for the boo boys. Should fit in then.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Loaning...ail/story.html

This really is not a 'negative' post although some will say it is. It's not!!! The players Stubbs has brought in, especially it seems Allan and Kennedy seem good players so he must have seen enough of this player, although I can't imagine where and when and it seems he did not come for a trial, to feel confident he can tighten up our defence.

And of course he comes to a club where players on a confidence low are given full support from our fans and not a boo boy to be heard!

Just a genuine question on the quality of the 'signing' as opposed to the quality of the player. What I mean by that is if LG had somehow signed I think we all would accept it was a 'quality' signing, a show of intent by the board of quality over quantity, even if it somehow went all wrong. Our other signings, which Liam Fontaine seems to fall into, is we sign them and hope for the best that they prove themselves quality signings. We we wont be able to judge Fontaine for at least twenty minutes

But if he is here, he gets my full support short of running through the streets of Paris shouting 'Vive la Republique', 'Vive la Fontaine', whereas if LG was to sign up soon.....'Vive la qualité'.

Every signing at every level of football carries an element of risk. There are no guarantees.

[Keith_M]

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This is a genuine question and in no way am I suggesting that anyone we sign is not given our support but do you consider Liam Fontaine a 'quality' player, the kind that will have the ticket office staff rushed off their feet trying to keep up with the demand for season tickets? ............

No, and I think Dempster and Stubbs made a rod for their own back when they used the phrase 'quality over quantity'. A journeyman footballer probably describes him quite well.

That doesn't mean that I think he's a bad signing, as I think he'll probably do well in the league we're in, but I think the management have raised the expectations of the fans to an unrealistic level by using that unfortunate phrase.

[sambajustice]

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http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/top...liam-fontaine/

The boy is getting slated in there!

[Iain G]

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No, and I think Dempster and Stubbs made a rod for their own back when they used the phrase 'quality over quantity'. A journeyman footballer probably describes him quite well.

That doesn't mean that I think he's a bad signing, as I think he'll probably do well in the league we're in, but I think the management have raised the expectations of the fans to an unrealistic level by using that unfortunate phrase.

Played most of his career with Bristol City, hardly a description of a journeyman.

[SanFranHibs]

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No, and I think Dempster and Stubbs made a rod for their own back when they used the phrase 'quality over quantity'. A journeyman footballer probably describes him quite well.

That doesn't mean that I think he's a bad signing, as I think he'll probably do well in the league we're in, but I think the management have raised the expectations of the fans to an unrealistic level by using that unfortunate phrase.

Exactly Keekaboo. I am not saying it is a bad signing. Anyone we sign will get my support.

And I had actually started saying the same thing about LD's phrase but dropped it.

I still think we are missing a 'spark' in the team, though. (Not a 'Sparkie' )

Now I am having to think about my choice of words. A new direction for me

[Keith_M]

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Played most of his career with Bristol City, hardly a description of a journeyman.

You're probably right.

I think it's more the standard of player that was being hinted at in his case. I'm not saying though that he's in any way a bad signing, as we all know how well Jones did at Hibs and I would love it if he was of a similar standard.

[SanFranHibs]

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Played most of his career with Bristol City, hardly a description of a journeyman.

I was asking how others felt about the signing!

10 years ago a junior English player, some good times with Bristol, then some bad times, loaned out to Yeovil and now evidently wanted by neither and coming to a Scottish lower division.

If we are honest hardly on the way up though, is it?

[Iain G]

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You're probably right.

I think it's more the standard of player that was being hinted at in his case. I'm not saying though that he's in any way a bad signing, as we all know how well Jones did at Hibs and I would love it if he was of a similar standard.

Once got sacked by Hibs and got picked up as manager by Bristol City in Footy Manager, Fontaine was the cornerstone of my defence

Anyway, in the real world, I suspect he is a better option than Nelson at the back, plenty of decent league experience and he is 6 years younger.

[Ronniekirk]

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This is a genuine question and in no way am I suggesting that anyone we sign is not given our support but do you consider Liam Fontaine a 'quality' player, the kind that will have the ticket office staff rushed off their feet trying to keep up with the demand for season tickets? Or is he another journeyman? Or indeed someone with no where else to go as it seems that Yeovil are not interested in signing him, let alone Bristol City. Is the quality of player we have been 'holding out' for?



Frankly, if this happens (And according to the Scotsman he is playing tonight, but a more recent report on the BBC claims we are trying to sign him) I will of course be giving him my full support but am just wondering if the board's state of mind is in exactly the same place as the past few years, 'We want them cheap'.

Seems Bristol loaned him out as he endured a torrid relegation season and was low in confidence and a target for the boo boys. Should fit in then.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Loaning...ail/story.html

This really is not a 'negative' post although some will say it is. It's not!!! The players Stubbs has brought in, especially it seems Allan and Kennedy seem good players so he must have seen enough of this player, although I can't imagine where and when and it seems he did not come for a trial, to feel confident he can tighten up our defence.

And of course he comes to a club where players on a confidence low are given full support from our fans and not a boo boy to be heard!

Just a genuine question on the quality of the 'signing' as opposed to the quality of the player. What I mean by that is if LG had somehow signed I think we all would accept it was a 'quality' signing, a show of intent by the board of quality over quantity, even if it somehow went all wrong. Our other signings, which Liam Fontaine seems to fall into, is we sign them and hope for the best that they prove themselves quality signings. We we wont be able to judge Fontaine for at least twenty minutes

But if he is here, he gets my full support short of running through the streets of Paris shouting 'Vive la Republique', 'Vive la Fontaine', whereas if LG was to sign up soon.....'Vive la qualité'.

Think we can take it as read that some players he would have liked to entice to the club have had in thier view better options .We now find ourselves heading to wards the window shutting ,and apart from maybe a loan deal for one of the Everton lads he wants ,Stubbs may be prepared to wait up to the last minute to see if that materialises He rightly won't want to leave everything to that last day ,just look what happened with T B s last three deadline day signings that proved futile .
Is he quality I don't know till I see him play but some folk that saw him at Bristol think he will be an assett in this current division.Is he a box office draw no ,but no one IMO is expecting that kind of signing now I don't think ( we can wish though ) Butfor the league we are currently in I think all his permanent signings will do well for us Althogh wish Oxley would catch tha ball more he parries shots back into danger zone a bit too Mutch for my likening and he was punching it away a lot v Falkirk But so far you would have to give Stubbs credit He and Leeann have put in place a Thorough vetting process so he won't just have signed him on basis of watching some old video montage that's for sure .
Two more quality players one being a striker are needed Just coz Heff won't move on ,doesn't mean we should play him if he isn't scoring and to date he looks like he has lost a bit of confidence in front of goal and will struggle when we up the tempo and think Stubbs wants more of that once he settles on his first eleven . We know we could sell Craig and if he is going to play him deep and negate his goal scoring threat there must be a deal waiting to be done to bring in someone else .But maybe Stubbs likes the fact he gives him options

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I was asking how others felt about the signing!

10 years ago a junior English player, some good times with Bristol, then some bad times, loaned out to Yeovil and now evidently wanted by neither and coming to a Scottish lower division.

If we are honest hardly on the way up though, is it?

A Central defender who has played 300 odd games in his career, decent experience at a level on par with the SPL never mind Championship.

An improvement on what we have and seems a step in the right direction to developing a spine down the middle of the team.

[J-C]

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I was asking how others felt about the signing!

10 years ago a junior English player, some good times with Bristol, then some bad times, loaned out to Yeovil and now evidently wanted by neither and coming to a Scottish lower division.

If we are honest hardly on the way up though, is it?

It looks that way but sometimes a player gets himself lost football wise and just needs a bit of guidance, he's played at a very decent level and hopefully Stubbs can get him firing on all cylinders again.

[HappyHibby93]

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Think we need a scott brown type player in the middle. Someone to put their foot on the ball as well as noise up players!

Totally agree, we need somebody with a bit of bite. We need someone with a bit of attitude and a bit of a nasty side. I think we're to soft at the moment.



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No, and I think Dempster and Stubbs made a rod for their own back when they used the phrase 'quality over quantity'. A journeyman footballer probably describes him quite well.

That doesn't mean that I think he's a bad signing, as I think he'll probably do well in the league we're in, but I think the management have raised the expectations of the fans to an unrealistic level by using that unfortunate phrase.

An what exactly is ur definition of 'quality'. My guess is that's it's players that are out of our reach and we realistically can't sign.

Quality is relevant to team, budget, division etc. Id say someone who scored 29 goals in this season 2 years ago is quality, someone who was at man utd until 24 and played 46 games for Preston athletic in the championship is quality, someone that southampton where willing to pay £1m for 3 years ago only for guy to fail medical sounds like quality.

What, REALISTICALLY, constitutes quality to you sir?

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An what exactly is ur definition of 'quality'. My guess is that's it's players that are out of our reach and we realistically can't sign.

Quality is relevant to team, budget, division etc. Id say someone who scored 29 goals in this season 2 years ago is quality, someone who was at man utd until 24 and played 46 games for Preston athletic in the championship is quality, someone that southampton where willing to pay £1m for 3 years ago only for guy to fail medical sounds like quality.

What, REALISTICALLY, constitutes quality to you sir?

Wow, I'm Sir now, I must have been promoted

Actually, I think you're possibly over-reacting to my post as I didn't at any point criticise the quality of this signing. If you'd care to read my post(s) again, you'll see that I felt the management had unduly raised the expectations of some Fans with the phrase they used. That's all, nothing sinister.



Ach, stuff it, here you go. That'll save you trawling through all the posts....

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If this goes through, it'll make me happy as I felt we were still short in a few positions. Now let's push the boat out and get a/nother* prolific goalscorer please

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That doesn't mean that I think he's a bad signing, as I think he'll probably do well in the league we're in, but I think the management have raised the expectations of the fans to an unrealistic level by using that unfortunate phrase.

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I'm not saying though that he's in any way a bad signing, as we all know how well Jones did at Hibs and I would love it if he was of a similar standard.

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Wow, I'm Sir now, I must have been promoted

Actually, I think you're possibly over-reacting to my post as I didn't at any point criticise the quality of this signing. If you'd care to read my post(s) again, you'll see that I felt the management had unduly raised the expectations of some Fans with the phrase they used. That's all, nothing sinister.

Ok that's fine. But you didn't answer my question. I believe we are going down the route of quality over quantity, within the realistic boundaries we have. You and many others disagree we me, which is fine. So, if you disagree with me, what and who do you class as realistic quality?

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Ok that's fine. But you didn't answer my question. I believe we are going down the route of quality over quantity, within the realistic boundaries we have. You and many others disagree we me, which is fine. So, if you disagree with me, what and who do you class as realistic quality?

I've updated my post, please have a read though it again.

Thanks

[Golden Bear]

We're till "closing in" on this signing according to the midday news on Radio Scotland.

[Lee Marvin]

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I've updated my post, please have a read though it again.

Thanks

This is going to be my last effort at asking you why you think Leanne and Stubbs 'made a rod fir their owns backs' by saying quality over quantity, as you are not answering this. I realise you said he may do ok, but you clearly don't think we are adopting the policy they said and I'd like to know why and who we could sign that would satisfy this for you and many others?

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Not coming according to my works pet yam

[Keith_M]

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This is going to be my last effort at asking you why you think Leanne and Stubbs 'made a rod fir their owns backs' by saying quality over quantity, as you are not answering this. I realise you said he may do ok, but you clearly don't think we are adopting the policy they said and I'd like to know why and who we could sign that would satisfy this for you and many others?

I'm sorry, I don't really understand what it is you want. My view, as I so clearly stated, is that I welcome the signings we've made so far.




The other point on "quality over quantity" was a reply to SanFranHibs question about whether this is a signing that will have people buying Season tickets in droves and I said no. I don't see how you can argue with that. It's also no criticism of the guy that just signed, just a fact.

I also mentioned that some Fans (I at no point said that includes me) now have unrealistic expectations on the level of signings we should be making and quote the "quality over quantity" mantra to criticise the signings we make. If you read through the previous comments on this thread about our latest signing, you'll see that's the case.

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I've started to get the feeling that some people come on here looking for an argument and start one even where there's no actual disagreement. It would be nice if people started reading the whole point a poster is trying to make and also stopped reading things into it that aren't there.