Honeymoon Over

[blackpoolhibs]

I'd say he's changed the style of play completely, and he's brought in 3 players who look better than what we had before. Gray is definitely better because we never had a right back, El Algooly is 100% better than Collins, and the keeper looks decent whether he's better than williams we will have to wait and see.

The rest of his signings we cant really comment on because they have not really played yet?

I think Stubbs wants more players in, but money looks to be tight.

[IWasThere2016]

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Yet again agianst them we did very little offensively wise til like the 80th min, do you find that acceptable?

The one thing i think about derbies its less about how you preform its how well yoo battle and how many chances you make, and do you win.

It was an even type game, but who is gonna remeber that?
all people will really remeber is heartz yet again beating us without domoinating us and that i fell is the worst thing imo

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Yep, we're very good at ignoring the blatant obvious and taking an ailisbarry approach when really, all we want is to win, then there would be no need for excuses.

We were not good enough to do that.

Hopefully we can get some players in who will make the difference, but the current lot will not get us promoted.

There were those who actually scoffed at the thought we could get relegated last season a few weeks out from the season end, urging us keep the faith.

Well, now we apparently will definitely be challenging for the title, and to suggest otherwise is almost treason.

We need more new players to do that.

End of sermon.

Spot on guys IMHO.

[greenlex]

As usual after a derby defeat we are ****ing suicidal. FFS if you can't see that Stubbs has improved things no end in the short time he's been here you are either blind or at it.

[Turkish Green]

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What does Robertson actually do besides give away the ball and needless fouls? He runs about a lot with absolutely no other redeeming qualities. He's like a pish John Rankin.

Scott Robertson did yesterday what Prince Bauben did for the Yams. Run around a lot breaking up play by fouling and deconstructing attacking moves. Every team has this type of player; many better, some worse. Hibs have two when you add the contribution from Liam Craig.

Robertson could not find a player in a white jersey with a pass and Bauben could not find a player in a maroon shirt. The difference between them was the penalty and the sending off. It had been coming since the start of the 2nd half.

[yankyhibby]

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As usual after a derby defeat we are ****ing suicidal. FFS if you can't see that Stubbs has improved things no end in the short time he's been here you are either blind or at it.

I disagree with the suicidal comment, but agree that we have improved considerably in a short space of time. However, the results are all that matter at the end of the day. Rather than laying down a marker whereby they are chasing us, they have acquired the psychological edge by beating us and leading us by 3 points after only two games. On the positive side, A.S. has 2 weeks to find fresh players who will hopefully bring drive, determination and self belief.

[Hamish]

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Yep, we're very good at ignoring the blatant obvious and taking an ailisbarry approach when really, all we want is to win, then there would be no need for excuses.

We were not good enough to do that.

Hopefully we can get some players in who will make the difference, but the current lot will not get us promoted.

There were those who actually scoffed at the thought we could get relegated last season a few weeks out from the season end, urging us keep the faith.

Well, now we apparently will definitely be challenging for the title, and to suggest otherwise is almost treason.

We need more new players to do that.

End of sermon.

Think all some of us are saying is that if Hearts are now favourites for the title, we will not be too far behind. Still maintain there was little between the teams and I am far from being a happy clapper type.

And yes we need more players.

[Hamish]

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As usual after a derby defeat we are ****ing suicidal. FFS if you can't see that Stubbs has improved things no end in the short time he's been here you are either blind or at it.

Most of us thought Williamson, Mixu, Yogi and Butcher were, in varying degrees, the men to lead us onwards and upwards. For various reasons they weren't.

I know I have left some of the other managers out.

This time we appear to have someone who is taking the club by the scruff of the neck and shaking it until his ideas and professionalism get through to all employees.

My only worry is if it for some reason, goes pear shaped, a lot of supporters will be spending their weekends at B and Q etc. We would be left with 4000 or so diehards.

[silverhibee]

Where was the honeymoon destination.

[PeterboroHibee]

Im disappointed we lost yet another derby, but its still far too early on in a new managers reign for some of the reaction on here.

I do however think that yesterdays game highlighted that if we want to have a real chance of competing at the top, we still need some quality brought in (and not kids on loan). We more or less competed with Hearts without really threatening them, which I think could be said of all 3 games this season where we are struggling to create and finish chances. Defensively I think we look fine, so if we could just sort out that balance and maybe bring in one or two more players, we could see the team comfortably winning games.

[Eyrie]

I have no objection to bringing in a kid on loan if they are good enough (for example that kid from Wolves whose name escapes me for some reason .....)

[Bad Martini]

**** it. Let's chuck the towel in now cause the huns best us with extra time and there was one ****ty goal separating us from the mutants, whilst our captain missed the penalty that would have changed the game.

Nae point in playing the rest of the games.

I am nae happy clapper. If it's ****, I'm happy to say so. I watched every home game last season and a few away games anaw. We were ****. Thats why we were relegated.

I must be stone radge as what I've seen so far doesn't make me reach for the Stanley blade...... Yes, we lost, we didn't need to and that goes for the huns match anaw. But we were far from the outclassed and lack of effort pish we had last year.

Doesn't mean it's good enough. But, it's not the same as last season....

[Turkish Green]

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I though we were the better side up until the penalty miss. Agree they looked the better side for most of the second half without bothering us too much. Nicholson, who looks a player, scored a great goal and we were all over the place for the next 10 minutes. Finished the better side. I agree we need players in, but like it or not, its going to take Stubbs some time to sort out the complete mess that was left by the previous incumbent.

Here's the thing. If the penalty had gone in then Hibs would likely have dominated the game and likely scored another. Craig missed and the rest is history. I am still of an opinion that Cummings is the greater potential as a goal scorer than Nicholson.

AS is new to the job only he can say why he didn't sub Robertson earlier. Lessons learned.

[BoltonHibee]

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Well in seven weeks he has got us believing in passing the ball. These are the same players who were shot to bits after going down. Zero confidence as well. Look at Nelson yesterday. Sow was in his pocket all game. That wouldn't have happened last year.

We lost to The Rangers with 10 men and completely dominated them. Surely you seen this no? These are early signs he's improved a squad that lacked confidence. His signings look fairly good and it's not his fault though that we can't get more in that's the board.


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I never saw the Rangers game as I was away, but I saw very little difference if at all any in the way we played yesterday compared to last season or before.

We were honking yesterday, we have been honking for many years.

We need better players, it's as simple as that

[Thecat23]

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I never saw the Rangers game as I was away, but I saw very little difference if at all any in the way we played yesterday compared to last season or before.

We were honking yesterday, we have been honking for many years.

We need better players, it's as simple as that

Well there was a massive difference in the Rangers game and up until the pen a big difference in the way we played under Butcher. I personally think your being harsh myself but each to their own.

I do agree we need more new players though. But to not have seen a difference from last season I wonder what you were watching!


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[BoltonHibee]

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Well there was a massive difference in the Rangers game and up until the pen a big difference in the way we played under Butcher. I personally think your being harsh myself but each to their own.

I do agree we need more new players though. But to not have seen a difference from last season I wonder what you were watching!


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I was watching the game honest :) it smacks to me of when Fenlon took over the reigns and after a few games, people were fawning how wonderful the transition had been and Hibs were a joy to watch. It was bull**** then and it's not true now.

I am just being totally honest, and it goes without saying I hope Stubbs succeeds and if he is given the playing staff he will as I do believe he is an accomplished coach.

But we are nowhere at the moment in terms of what is required to get out of that division.

[bobbyhibs1983]

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Where was the honeymoon destination.

Silverhibee You ve forgotten the msot inportant question

who got married?

and to answer your question the Honeymoon was 3 days at butlins!!

[macd123]

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Where was the honeymoon destination.

We are barely at the heavy petting stage ffs. Second base at most.

[Septimus]

My understanding is that the team which wins the so called Championship will gain automatic promotion. Let us assume that Rangers will do that. The teams which finish second, third and fourth go into play offs. If , say Hearts, are second it means that Hibs have to finish third or fourth to have a crack at promotion. Surely that is not beyond us. It may well mean that promotion will hinge on a home and away battle against Hearts which would certainly give us the chance to put all the 5-1 garbage to bed. Winning and leaving Hearts in the Championship would rank high above even the 7-0 day.

The plain fact is that we have to learn how to beat Hearts again. Watching the parts of the Rangers game which Hibs TV managed to broadcast here I saw Hibs playing a passing game which was really encouraging. Sunday was a different matter. Hearts modus operandi has always been to harry and obstruct and they have become quite good at it. The calm approach which was obvious in the Rangers game went out of the window as we were closed down quickly and effectively.

We need a few more (better) players to achieve promotion but all we get from the club is silence. If there is no more money then tell us. Continual speculation about transfer targets does nothing but demoralise the support.

Oh yes! It would be good if Mr. Petrie departed. He is well past his sell by date.

[Brightside]

I've seen nothing to suggest that Rangers will win the league. Quite the opposite.

[Keith_M]

Funnily enough, Mrs Keekaboo and I just came back from a trip to Passau for our Wedding Anniversary and the first thing I saw on here when we got back was this thread.

Prophetic or what!

[Keith_M]

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I've seen nothing to suggest that Rangers will win the league. Quite the opposite.

Not even their 8-1 win yesterday?

[bigwheel]

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I've seen nothing to suggest that Rangers will win the league. Quite the opposite.

they will be strong over the season. decent sized squad. I would say that any team who finishes above them will win the league.

[Septimus]

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I've seen nothing to suggest that Rangers will win the league. Quite the opposite.

Me neither but two things will kick in if they do not look like winning. First they will spend money and second they have the support of the authorities.

We will not do the first and we certainly don,t have the second.

[ancient hibee]

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Not even their 8-1 win yesterday?

Clyde had already lost to Cowdenbeath-not exactly world beaters.The only reason they are favoured for promotion is the usual fawning of the press over Ferguson.

[Keith_M]

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Clyde had already lost to Cowdenbeath-not exactly world beaters.The only reason they are favoured for promotion is the usual fawning of the press over Ferguson.

It was more the manner of the win I was referring to.

[HFC 0-7]

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As usual after a derby defeat we are ****ing suicidal. FFS if you can't see that Stubbs has improved things no end in the short time he's been here you are either blind or at it.

Dont think anyone is saying we havent improved, the issue I have, and I think other have is that we didn't seem to be up for it quite as much as them when things went wrong. We went back to ld habits. Remember, hearts have had to rebuild a lot as well, but as usual we seem to be behind. Why are we never ready for the start of the season? We always leave transfers late. The points lost at the start of the season because we are not ready and font have the players in could well be the difference between promotion and another season in the championship.

the lack of subs at crucial times have annoyed and worried fans, the game was there to be won, they showed intent and made changes, we continued with what we had, a player walking a tightrope that everyone knew would fall off.

[Lago]

In a lot of ways the game against Hearts was a 1 off. What will tell us how things will go in the rest of the season will be this coming Sat. Hearts are at Raith, Hibs have Falkirk at home these are games both expect to win and need to win if promotion is to happen. Dont think it will be as easy as some think.

[Borderhibbie76]

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Dont think anyone is saying we havent improved, the issue I have, and I think other have is that we didn't seem to be up for it quite as much as them when things went wrong. We went back to ld habits. Remember, hearts have had to rebuild a lot as well, but as usual we seem to be behind. Why are we never ready for the start of the season? We always leave transfers late. The points lost at the start of the season because we are not ready and font have the players in could well be the difference between promotion and another season in the championship.

the lack of subs at crucial times have annoyed and worried fans, the game was there to be won, they showed intent and made changes, we continued with what we had, a player walking a tightrope that everyone knew would fall off.

Im hurting as much as anyone after Sunday but u cant say we weren't up for it mate! ! We matched them toe to toe and only a wonder goal separated us. Had capt calamity not fluffed his penalty it would have been a very different story I feel. There were a few disappointment s about Sunday but we were deffo up for it imo!!

[HFC 0-7]

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Im hurting as much as anyone after Sunday but u cant say we weren't up for it mate! ! We matched them toe to toe and only a wonder goal separated us. Had capt calamity not fluffed his penalty it would have been a very different story I feel. There were a few disappointment s about Sunday but we were deffo up for it imo!!

If you read my post I said not up for it went things went wrong, ie, the penalty miss. At that point the mentality of last season crept back in. In regards to it being a wonder goal that separated us, I disagree. Their manager went for the win, they made changes to try and influence the game, we didn't. We imploded, the penalty miss and the sending off was all our doing.

[Forza Fred]

Not only do I believe our squad is short of better players than last year, because we are short when inevitable injuries suspensions kick in we will be woefully exposed in some areas.