Roberston

[Dave-O]

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I just don't really get what Robertson brings to the party. He doesn't score. Never makes a killer pass. Isn't a Roy Keane type enforcer. Doesn't create much. Never beats a man. What does he actually do?

As for Craig; I thought for 30 minutes today he carried on his decent form from Ibrox and last week. He was breaking up play, wanted the ball and getting stuck in. He was the best midfielder on the park at that time. The miss seemed to totally deflate him though and he fell to pieces. That's worrying and poor from both an experienced player and the club captain.

I noticed that least season with him, a misplaced pass or 2 and he starts to withdraw and his confidence starts ebbing away, its a very worrying trait especially for a captain.

[TAHibby]

"The WORST I've felt after a match. Got to accept the criticism coming my way." Robertson on twitter.

[DaveF]

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"The WORST I've felt after a match. Got to accept the criticism coming my way." Robertson on twitter.

As bad as he was, he was let down by his manager not replacing him IMO.

[S4uzee]

His constant clapping the fans after a game and twitter apologies are tiresome, do it on the pitch ffs

[leggeto]

Thought he was poor last season,good a breaking up play at times but when he gets the ball he hasn't the ability to do anything positive, was signed as a box to box player but rarely leaves the centre circle,not seen his performance today but I think it will maybe be his last game as that will not have impressed AS

[DH1875]

Was always gonna get sent off .

[R'Albin]

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As bad as he was, he was let down by his manager not replacing him IMO.

[BSEJVT]

For me Robertson has personally cost us our defeats to Rangers & hearts.

The Rangers one with that ludicrous attempt at a clearance when he had cramp.

More worryingly its a consistent lack of fitness that shows itself whenever we are under pressure and hints at a lack of bottle.

Having said that on both occasions Stubbs should have seen he was toiling badly and subbed him off so Stubbs isn't exempt from any criticism

[Yuillsy]

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As bad as he was, he was let down by his manager not replacing him IMO.

Agree to a point but when you've been booked you know not to go rushing into silly challenges and making stupid fouls.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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I felt Robertson and Craig were excellent in harrying and closing down Hearts and restricting them to very few efforts at our goal. I was thinking for most of the game that, for the first time in a while, we were not being outfought physically by Hearts. I think it's inevitable in these games that the guys doing that kind if work will pick up yellows and.Stubbs should have replaced Robertson. It's not Robbo's fault though that he wasn't subbed. Central midfield today was one of our stronger areas. I doubt Alan Stubbs will be thinking it is one of our problem areas. He will be looking further up the pitch IMO

I agree mate.

Not convinced by Robertson though and still have hope for Craig.

[bingo70]

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Agree to a point but when you've been booked you know not to go rushing into silly challenges and making stupid fouls.

That's why he let that boy past him to score the first, he'd have brought him down if he wasn't on a booking.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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I just don't really get what Robertson brings to the party. He doesn't score. Never makes a killer pass. Isn't a Roy Keane type enforcer. Doesn't create much. Never beats a man. What does he actually do?

Agreed - I've said similar many times about Stevenson as well.

[Pretty Boy]

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That's why he let that boy past him to score the first, he'd have brought him down if he wasn't on a booking.

He should have stood a yard off him and gave him nowhete to go instead of diving in and making the guys mind up for him. Why he was so close is beyond me.

He was then in a postion of foul him and get sent off or let him shoot.

[eastmainsmsh]

Just don't see what he offers been disappointing IMO I'd rather have kept tom taiwo

[Unseen work]

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Just don't see what he offers been disappointing IMO I'd rather have kept tom taiwo

Personally think taiwo would be starting for us if he was still under contract when Stubbs arrived

[Hibs7]

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He should have stood a yard off him and gave him nowhete to go instead of diving in and making the guys mind up for him. Why he was so close is beyond me.

He was then in a postion of foul him and get sent off or let him shoot.

Spot on ... Another yard away from him and the nutmeg would not have worked... Craig and Robertson cost us 3 points today ..

[Yuillsy]

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That's why he let that boy past him to score the first, he'd have brought him down if he wasn't on a booking.

He never let the boy past him. He opened his legs and sold himself!

[hibs4life]

There does seem to be a player in Robertson but we only see it in flashes but today he really had a stinker IMHO. Too many ill judged challenges, particularly in areas where we should be avoiding conceding fouls and nothing creative to speak of.
Our midfield struggles to look like a threat, or create threats in the last 3rd and I think Alan Stubbs needs to rethink his midfield set up to one that is more likely to create chances.
We pressed and contained them pretty well until the penalty miss and weren't ever really opened up but we do need a bit more and it seems a change in the starting midfield personnel is required...

[Bearders]

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Sorry - but I disagree. Thought they did quite well today. It was the final third where we weren't good enough today I thought.

Did quite well? Geez peace. Please enlighten me as I' m clearly at a different game or sitting in the wrong end.

[3pm]

He's ****in pish. He's always been pish and he'll continue to be pish.

Those of you who mark him 7.5, 8 and 9/10 on 'player ratings' threads must have your eyes painted on.

He does **** all apart from clapping the fans.

A useless ****in imposter. Pity it's taken today for a few folk to realise he's pish.

[Squealing pig]

Think Robertson is a good player , Liam Craig too just need to get the tactics right to utilise them

[theonlywayisup]

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Just don't see what he offers been disappointing IMO I'd rather have kept tom taiwo

Taiwo - scored two tonight

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

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Taiwo - scored two tonight

Will he follow in the footsteps of Paddy Cregg and John Rankin and get himself a goal on his return to ER on Saturday? Decent player is wee Tom

[bigwheel]

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He's ****in pish. He's always been pish and he'll continue to be pish.

Those of you who mark him 7.5, 8 and 9/10 on 'player ratings' threads must have your eyes painted on.

He does **** all apart from clapping the fans.

A useless ****in imposter. Pity it's taken today for a few folk to realise he's pish.

....it's good you don't let emotion get in the of your assessment of players...nonsense

[silverhibee]

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He's ****in pish. He's always been pish and he'll continue to be pish.

Those of you who mark him 7.5, 8 and 9/10 on 'player ratings' threads must have your eyes painted on.

He does **** all apart from clapping the fans.

A useless ****in imposter. Pity it's taken today for a few folk to realise he's pish.

You are talking about Craig eh.

[Hermit Crab]

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He's ****in pish. He's always been pish and he'll continue to be pish.

Those of you who mark him 7.5, 8 and 9/10 on 'player ratings' threads must have your eyes painted on.

He does **** all apart from clapping the fans.

A useless ****in imposter. Pity it's taken today for a few folk to realise he's pish.

Full of the bevy when you posted this I take it?

[3pm]

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Full of the bevy when you posted this I take it?

Nope. He's pish.

[3pm]

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....it's good you don't let emotion get in the of your assessment of players...nonsense

In your opinion.

[GreenOnions]

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Did quite well? Geez peace. Please enlighten me as I' m clearly at a different game or sitting in the wrong end.

I think this must be right.

You know - I watched the game with some friends, I've discussed it with quite a number of others since then (most of whom watched the game but support other clubs) - and have read various reports on the game in the media. I have to say that the only people who felt that Robertson and Craig were even close to being a problem for Hibs in the derby are people posting on this thread. No-one I've spoken to or read feels that central midfield was an area where we "lost" the game at the weekend.

I'm not talking about an individual or specific moment such as the missed penalty - I'm talking about the whole game. My opinion as well as that of EVERYONE else I've spoken to or read (apart from this thread, of course) feels that defensively and in central midfield we played reasonably well and that our problems were almost exclusively in the creative/more forward areas.

Our three youngsters in that area just didn't do it for us at the weekend. I rate all three of them but that is the area where we need to do a lot more if we're to have a chance of winning this league and of winning the next derby.

Let's hope the discussion on the Griffiths thread has more substance to it than some of the guff in this one

[Callum_62]

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I think this must be right.

You know - I watched the game with some friends, I've discussed it with quite a number of others since then (most of whom watched the game but support other clubs) - and have read various reports on the game in the media. I have to say that the only people who felt that Robertson and Craig were even close to being a problem for Hibs in the derby are people posting on this thread. No-one I've spoken to or read feels that central midfield was an area where we "lost" the game at the weekend.

I'm not talking about an individual or specific moment such as the missed penalty - I'm talking about the whole game. My opinion as well as that of EVERYONE else I've spoken to or read (apart from this thread, of course) feels that defensively and in central midfield we played reasonably well and that our problems were almost exclusively in the creative/more forward areas.

Our three youngsters in that area just didn't do it for us at the weekend. I rate all three of them but that is the area where we need to do a lot more if we're to have a chance of winning this league and of winning the next derby.

Let's hope the discussion on the Griffiths thread has more substance to it than some of the guff in this one

Altho, could we expect Robbo or Craig to contribute more going forward?

1 of the 2 centre midfielders has to take more of that responsibility I reckon