Taking cartons of juice off three year old girls

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I've always made a point of showing what I take in with my boy. I thought it was bottles and not cartons that were banned indeed if I'd known I'd not have brought them but the fact I took them out the bag and showed them so I'd be furious and writing to the club. If this the case then it obviously needs clarification and a bit of commonsense applied in the instance mentioned. O

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Well done to the steward who confiscated my three year old's carton of juice at today's game - a job well done

Nice to see the stewards receiving some praise for a change. ;-)

[The_Exile]

My old boy always took a carton of Ribena in, it was for me if I had a hypo as I'm a type 1 diabetic. There were never any problems, think they used to make him stick the straw in it though so as to "open" it.

[Sir David Gray]

It's absolutely pathetic but hardly surprising.

These are the same stewards who will completely ignore grown men who are continuously using foul and abusive language in front of young children.

Three year olds with a carton of ribena are a soft and easy target.

This is the problem when health and safety gets in the way of good old common sense.

Unfortunately it's not very common these days.

[over the line]

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You are quoting correct law but missing the important capable of causing injury to another person
cartons are not considered to be capable of that - thus why they are sold in ground....and are / have been allowed for past 15 years I have taken my girls with them...we had 4 cartons with us today (as well as my coffee) which we showed steward with the usual 'nope no cans or bottles...just cartons' line to which a polite thanks was returned

I think the important detail in this case is the 'prohibited from entering with a controlled container' or whatever it is. It's a daft loophole but that is why you can buy cartons in the ground, you just can't enter with them. A full carton could certainly cause injury to someone, but like any law, discretion and commonsense need to be applied. Now a group of rowdy lads on a derby day, probably shouldn't be allowed in with cartons, but I think a family with young kids at a friendly, that seems ok really doesn't it?

[Mr White]

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I think the important detail in this case is the 'prohibited from entering with a controlled container' or whatever it is. It's a daft loophole but that is why you can buy cartons in the ground, you just can't enter with them. A full carton could certainly cause injury to someone, but like any law, discretion and commonsense need to be applied. Now a group of rowdy lads on a derby day, probably shouldn't be allowed in with cartons, but I think a family with young kids at a friendly, that seems ok really doesn't it?

They sell bottles of water inside the ground that they pour into a cup upon sale, they don't do that with the ribena or capri sun. Pretty sure the steward today was wrong unless they've changed the rules.

[EdinMike]

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My kids take juice in every week, either Capri sun or cartons and never had a problem.

Crazy taking that off a 3yr old though, what if some angry guy decides to throw an old Nokia at someone, will they start removing mobiles from everyone too?

Or the coins from everyone's wallet ?!

In fact don't read this Petrie...

[Hibbyradge]

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Well done to the steward who confiscated my three year old's carton of juice at today's game - a job well done

I think you should contact the club about this.

Why did they spoil the laddie's day when the same product is sold inside the ground?

Is it to encourage people to subsidise the company who has the contract for match day "catering"?

[over the line]

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They sell bottles of water inside the ground that they pour into a cup upon sale, they don't do that with the ribena or capri sun. Pretty sure the steward today was wrong unless they've changed the rules.

There are grey areas in all rules and laws, that's where discretion and commonsense need to be applied. It could be argued the legislation does prohibit cartons but I think commonsense tells us that a little girl with her dad is almost certainly ok to go in with it.

[Wotherspiniesta]

Was the option to drink the juice not given?

Wouldnt have taken long surely.

[leither17]

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I think you should contact the club about this.

Why did they spoil the laddie's day when the same product is sold inside the ground?

Is it to encourage people to subsidise the company who has the contract for match day "catering"?

Can't believe we got to page 3 for the real reason to appear that's exactly why

[Mr White]

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There are grey areas in all rules and laws, that's where discretion and commonsense need to be applied. It could be argued the legislation does prohibit cartons but I think commonsense tells us that a little girl with her dad is almost certainly ok to go in with it.

My experience tells me they're not prohibited and stewards applying different rules to supporters based on their age or appearance would likely cause more problems than it would solve.

[down-the-slope]

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I think the important detail in this case is the 'prohibited from entering with a controlled container' or whatever it is. It's a daft loophole but that is why you can buy cartons in the ground, you just can't enter with them. A full carton could certainly cause injury to someone, but like any law, discretion and commonsense need to be applied. Now a group of rowdy lads on a derby day, probably shouldn't be allowed in with cartons, but I think a family with young kids at a friendly, that seems ok really doesn't it?

This is not correct..as pointed out several times CARTONS ARE ALLOWED (they are not dangerous / resealable as per regs) its just one steward getting it wrong...and as pointed out earlier most on duty today seemed new...

A simple email asking for training clarification would suffice

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Was the option to drink the juice not given?

Wouldnt have taken long surely.

The thought crossed my mind but I know the hassle I get off my boy trying to finish anything let alone a steward ;)

[MountcastleHibs]

When I was a steward, we were told bottles and cans. Cartons are perfectly fine.

[Steve-O]

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If I threw a full carton of ribena at you and it hit you in the eye it could ****** blind you!!! Is that injury enough? It's down to lack of training but as a steward if you know the law then you interpret it as you see it.

FFS

[Cameron1875]

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I think you should contact the club about this.

Why did they spoil the laddie's day when the same product is sold inside the ground?

Is it to encourage people to subsidise the company who has the contract for match day "catering"?

That's the one.

[sleeping giant]

I always thought it was to stop folk smuggling in alcohol.

[Weststandwanab]

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Can't believe we got to page 3 for the real reason to appear that's exactly why

One Hundred and Eighty.

[Emerald]

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I always thought it was to stop folk smuggling in alcohol.

Smuggle alcohol in the bairns Ribena, now there's an idea. Trouble is the bairns now 23 and would keep it to himself, drat!

[Sir David Gray]

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I always thought it was to stop folk smuggling in alcohol.

If it's the sort of carton that I'm thinking it is then it would be almost impossible to transfer any sort of liquid into the carton once the ribena was emptied out of it.

[Mr White]

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If it's the sort of carton that I'm thinking it is then it would be almost impossible to transfer any sort of liquid into the carton once the ribena was emptied out of it.

Syringe? Not that I've ever given it any thought before

[Taz_hibee]

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They sell bottles of water inside the ground that they pour into a cup upon sale, they don't do that with the ribena or capri sun. Pretty sure the steward today was wrong unless they've changed the rules.

I bought 2 bottles of water today and was handed them in their bottles and we sat in lower section of East drinking in front of stewards

[Mr White]

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I bought 2 bottles of water today and was handed them in their bottles and we sat in lower section of East drinking in front of stewards

Were you given the tops? Even if not that would seem a change in policy or a mistake imo.

[Taz_hibee]

Yes, tops on them

[matty_f]

Meanwhile if you're at the rugby you can have a beer at the game.

[Mr White]

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Yes, tops on them

Interesting. Makes the action the steward took against carhenlea's nipper with the juice seem even more ridiculous if they're selling plastic bottles to folk inside. Pretty much the opposite of whats been done until now.

[Wilson]

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Meanwhile if you're at the rugby you can have a beer at the game.

Not if you're three.

[snooky]

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Well in that case, the law is an ass

Aye been .

[danhibees1875]

I remember having this happen to me when I was younger actually. At away grounds, not Easter Road.

I'd also add that the steward was probably just doing as instructed. Just over-zealously and without the simple compromise of getting a cup from inside.