Why IMO have keepers been so bad in recent seasons? I was looking at the record of Zbigi and since leaving Hibs, for the final time in 2008, he has had 5 seasons with Korona Kielce in the Polish top division and amassed 120 appearances. Yet when I saw him between the sticks for Hibs I ended up with no nails left. Before coming to Hibs he had 5 years in the Feyenoord camp. What did JC do to him?
Then there are Graham Stack, Graeme Smith and Ma-Kalambay who has only played a handful of 1st team games since he departed in 2010.
Have Hibs just been unlucky with keepers (Williams excluded)? Will the next one be any better,
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Thread: Hibs and Goalkeepers
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24-07-2014 10:21 AM #1
Hibs and Goalkeepers
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24-07-2014 10:50 AM #2
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When was the last time we brought a keeper through from the youth team who became a regular?
I suspect Thomson Allan in the 60s but I might have forgotten someone?
I know we've had a few who have played 10-20 games over a few seasons but I am talking about a first choice???
Any suggestions??
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24-07-2014 10:51 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-07-2014 10:55 AM #4
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I think we got him from Southampton
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24-07-2014 10:57 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Before him, Christ knows. Jim McArthur??????
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24-07-2014 11:14 AM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-07-2014 11:16 AM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Maybe THRIP is right about Thomson Allan..........
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24-07-2014 11:20 AM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Graham Stack came through the ranks at Arsenal but has had something of a journeyman's career, he was no worse and no better at Hibs.
Graeme Smith - probably my least favourite Hibs player of all time. Poor player and stinking attitude. Bad, bad signing.
Ma-Kalamby - I'll always back the big guy. Had raw talent and presence but a bit dozy at times to say the least. Not helped by Yogi's public bullying. I don't know what happened since but he was a young guy with us and maybe he just never had the temperament and focus to become a reliable keeper.
Ben Williams - similar to Stack IMO, decent but not great journeyman, arguably better attitude. Sad to see him go as I think he'd have been just fine twixt the stix for us this term. Has he signed up with another club?
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24-07-2014 11:22 AM #11
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24-07-2014 11:28 AM #12
Who was the young guy that came in when Roughie was injured? Was his name Rae? Played a couple of games looked impressive, but then night time activities saw him out the door?
i seem to remember a still injured Roughie in goals although he couldn't take bye kicks. Slowest I've seen a Hibs keeper move since Willie Wilson!
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24-07-2014 11:33 AM #13
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I liked that Polish keeper that we had for about half a season. Played for United at some point before us I think.
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24-07-2014 11:33 AM #14
Daniel Andersson was very good.
Jim leighton and Andy Goram (two Scotland goalies while at Hibs).
Remember Olafur Gotscalsson or the monster Morten Hygerland (sp)?
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24-07-2014 11:36 AM #15
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24-07-2014 11:39 AM #16
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Andy Goram was quality and John 'Budgie' Burridge was a decent keeper and a character
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Robin Rae, from Musselburgh. He was a total d1ck and has only himself to blame for his career going down the toilet.
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24-07-2014 12:13 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
lifted from wiki
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24-07-2014 12:53 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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What does it have to do with JC? As far as I remember he had a couple of absolute clangers against the Yams and we as a support never forgave him for that. Keepers need confidence more than any other position, Zibby seriously lacked that.
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3:30 made me miss Zemmama so much
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24-07-2014 01:09 PM #26
I've seen some excellent keepers at ER
Rough
Goram
Budgie
Leighton
Andersson
Maybe add Colgan to that list!!
But since then dear God we've struggled.
Not sure if I've missed anyone??
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24-07-2014 01:10 PM #27
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Was Andersson actually that good? I don't remember the season all too well, I didn't really pick up a full interest in Hibs until I went to high school. But I've always felt (and this goes purely on a hunch, I'll happily accept I'm wrong if the stats/others tell me so) but are judgement's a bit cloudy because of the semi final win over the huns?
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My theory regarding Zibi, McNeill and Maka (and a couple of others) is that for much of the their time the back four had developed a bad habit of dropping back very deep, largely due to a serious lack of pace in the centre-backs Jones and Hogg. I lost count of the number of times Maka in particular was struggling to work out what was going on in front of him because big Jones was playing right on the 6-yard line and in his way.
I know Jones is revered by many on this board, but good as he was in the air he was about as mobile as a dockside crane. And before anyone else says it, I KNOW he scored the opened in the LC Final in 2007, but even that day there were times he didn't make life easy for McNeill. Hogg wasn't much better - he was always liable to play a suicide ball across his goalmouth, or a perfectly-weighted pass-back to the keeper (perfectly-weighted for the opposition attackers, that is). Goalie and back four have to work as a unit, and I've always been of the opinion that when any doubt arises, the goalie's shout trumps all. McNeill and Maka in particular didn't have the confidence to make that happen, though I doubt that either Jones or Hogg would have been prepared to listen to them if they'd tried.
That said, not one of those three was anything like good enough in retrospect.
Danny Andersson (another goalie who looks better in hindsight than on the pitch during the game) started off dangerously erratic and ended by verging on something approaching competence; Hyldgaard hardly played, and Stack was perhaps the best of them until his inner ned surfaced. And then he got injured.
Reid and Rae were bombscares - anyone who thinks Maka was bad should have seen them.
Best you can say about Ollie is that you can't expect top-quality if you go shopping in Iceland. Better trying Sainsbury or M&S.
Williams was good until Butcher and Malpas "re-organised" the defence. then he seemed to lose it completely.
Last competent and adequate keepers to be promoted from the reserves/youth teams? Willie Wilson and Thomson Allan, back in the 1960's, I'd say.
Last competent and adequate keeper to pull on the Hibs jersey? Budgie.
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