John Collins SOS

[Steve-O]

Another great man manager, just what we need. NOT

[500miles]

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JC definitely deserves some blame. He was a decent coach and coached the team mowbray assembled to the league cup and will always thank him for that.

But he had no scouting network and he signed the worst players of any hibs manager in living memory. Bold statement but who has been worse than this list?

Brian kerr
Alan obrien
Patrick noubissie
Thierry gathuessi
Antoine-courier
Makalambay

To be fair to JC he still coached those misfits to a higher league finish than butcher and malpas and no doubt he would get more out of this group. I think if he was first team coach under fenlon instead of jimmy nicholl things might be different now but can't see him as manager in his own right. He is still a legend though.

He didn't. He coached TM's team to a top six finish. Mixu was left with the task of coaching JC's team to a top six finish.

[macd123]

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He didn't. He coached TM's team to a top six finish. Mixu was left with the task of coaching JC's team to a top six finish.

Fair enough. I think mixu was pretty harshly treated. It's funny looking back but i remember him getting stick and press saying he was under pressure after a "dismal run of 5 games without a win".

[judas]

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It wasn't bad enough that we were losing the golden generation, JC then chose to marginalise the best of the rest of the squad as well.

John Collins is a self interested, self obsessed tit. He's a clever guy, who is well connected in football terms, but can't pick a player, and his personality is entirely counter productive to making it in management.

He is actually as much to blame as any manager of the past 7 years for the predicament we find ourselves. He left Mixu a totally broken dressing room, but with promises of this and that still ringing in the ears of the support.

yep. I agree with that.

[southsider]

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Fantastic player, but he doesn't have the right mindset to be a successful manager. That's what the timing of his resignation says to me anyway.

He quit because he asked Farmer (directly) for funds to push us on when he had already been turned down by Petrie. This was the day our new training centre opened. "stick your team up your arse" was his reply to Farmer whilst again being told "speak to Rod."

[The Falcon]

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Will always remember the CIS cup win and he's a good Hibs man but never a manager.

Started the decline in calibre of player at this club which hasn't stopped since. Some of the names listed in the post above mine are honking!

Celtic man I think. His whole family is Celtic.

[The Falcon]

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He quit because he asked Farmer (directly) for funds to push us on when he had already been turned down by Petrie. This was the day our new training centre opened. "stick your team up your arse" was his reply to Farmer whilst again being told "speak to Rod."

To be fair he didn't use the funds he did get very well.

[ballengeich]

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He quit because he asked Farmer (directly) for funds to push us on when he had already been turned down by Petrie. This was the day our new training centre opened. "stick your team up your arse" was his reply to Farmer whilst again being told "speak to Rod."

You're alleging that when Collins had a problem he went to his boss's boss to complain. Interesting.

[The Falcon]

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You're alleging that when Collins had a problem he went to his boss's boss to complain. Interesting.

Should Farmer have even spoke to him?

[onionman]

Coaching wise I felt Collins was good. He won that cup with Mowbray's team but I feel he gave them an extra edge physically and mentally.

He signed some complete garbage though and that was a big flaw.

If Collins is ever to be successful IMO it would be in a continental style where the players are brought to the club (by someone with the ability to control a scouting network and make good deals) and his job is solely to coach them. Also I think he would need to improve his diplomacy skills somewhat. Anything else and he is average.

[sesoim]

Collins would have done a better job at Hibs if he had managed somebody else first. But Hibs was his first job, and he made loads of mistakes in terms of man-management, signings and so on. I don't think anyone deserves to walk into the Hibs manager's job without having already proved themselves somewhere else first, and I don't see why Collins should just walk back into ANY role at the club now.

Anyway, I don't get the big love-in some people have with Collins - he isn't a Pat Stanton or Famous Five type figure who gave all his best years to the club - he left when he was 22 to join Celtic - the club he supported.

[erin go bragh]

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JC definitely deserves some blame. He was a decent coach and coached the team mowbray assembled to the league cup and will always thank him for that.

But he had no scouting network and he signed the worst players of any hibs manager in living memory. Bold statement but who has been worse than this list?

Brian kerr
Alan obrien
Patrick noubissie
Thierry gathuessi
Antoine-courier !!!
Makalambay

To be fair to JC he still coached those misfits to a higher league finish than butcher and malpas and no doubt he would get more out of this group. I think if he was first team coach under fenlon instead of jimmy nicholl things might be different now but can't see him as manager in his own right. He is still a legend though.

Courier scored more goals in his last game for Hamilton than we have managed in our last 6 . Back to the Collins debate . Collins would walk into our midfield just now . So yes id take him back but as a player . Id take back wee Russel too . At least they knew hiw to create chances and finnish them .

Ggtth

[Fergus52]

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Given the absolute dross he signed with the money he did have, he rightly wasn't given any more.

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His signings were woeful.

Easily our worst manager in the transfer market of recent years except maybe calderwood.

[Peevemor]

JC is one of the reasons why we're where we are now.

[Gettin' Auld]

I'd like to see John Collins in the friggin team, rather than managing it. Even at his age.....

[Peevemor]

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I'd lack to see John Collins in the friggin team, rather than managing it. Even at his age.....

Absolutely.

[Brightside]

I'd have him in as Director of Football.but i get the impression that is Terry's role.

[Peevemor]

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I'd have him in as Director of Football.but i get the impression that is Terry's role.

Why? To have him shot the crow again when things get tough?

[Gettin' Auld]

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I'd have him in as Director of Football.but i get the impression that is Terry's role.

Naw, Terry's role seems to be Director of Hoofball

[Hermit Crab]

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Get him in next season get Petrie out let him structure top to bottom and weed all the sad pathetic weak losers we have collected over the last 7 years.....not realistic but we need something at the club

Have you you been drinking?

[Dashing Bob S]

If he came back, could we get a triple Deeks-Gaz-Kenny Miller strikeforce?

[Golden Bear]

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Why? To have him shot the crow again when things get tough?

I doubt if we'll ever find out the exact circumstances behind his sudden resignation.

I thought at the time JC may have thought that his halo was about to slip but if RP is destined to take a back seat at ER then JC might just be tempted to give it another go.

I'd be delighted if he did.