Butcher / Malpas no the honourable thing.

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How? What? Just naw!! Please humor me, you're basing that statement on what evidence???

Pat had us playing pure braw fitba and winning all the time didn't he? Naw? He had a small burst of decent form in between getting humped off Malmo and losing twice against Hearts. Butcher also had a decent run of form when he first came too. It all fell apart for him as well eh? Players need a long hard look at themselves.

[weonlywon6-2]

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Can you see us winning again this season?

A shot at goal would be a start !

[Nameless]

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Pat had us playing pure braw fitba and winning all the time didn't he? Naw? He had a small burst of decent form in between getting humped off Malmo and losing twice against Hearts. Butcher also had a decent run of form when he first came too. It all fell apart for him as well eh? Players need a long hard look at themselves.

Eh? Are you disagreeing then?

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Eh? Are you disagreeing then?

Nope. I agree with you.

[Lucius Apuleius]

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A shot at goal would be a start !

According to Sporting Life we had 10 shots at goal, four of which were on target?

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We're pretty much stuck with Terry and June and their horrendous hoofball for the foreseeable. ****ing great.



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How? What? Just naw!! Please humor me, you're basing that statement on what evidence???

I'd guess it's based on the fact that we've gotten much, much worse since he left. I'll bet naebody thought they'd be saying that.

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What a stupid post.

Indeed. And it's not even spelt correctly...

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No. I really can't. Can you?

No chance. That's why i think he has to go. I can't understand for the life of me why people think keeping him is worth the almost certainty of at least 2 years in the championship

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No chance. That's why i think he has to go. I can't understand for the life of me why people think keeping him is worth the almost certainty of at least 2 years in the championship

I really dont don't think butcher is the problem. It's Petrie and co. Petrie has consistently put too many restrictions on our managers to the detriment of the team on the park.

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I really dont don't think butcher is the problem. It's Petrie and co. Petrie has consistently put too many restrictions on our managers to the detriment of the team on the park.

I'm no Petrie lover and will be happy when he's gone but unless he's now taking training and selecting the team I fail to see how he is responsible for our current run of form. That is down to 2 men, TB & MM.

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resign. Ian Murray in to save us.

This paragraph alone makes me think Ian is better suited than butcher for the hibs job alone "At the moment, because of where we [Dumbarton] are in the league, I’ve told them that I don’t care how they play as long as they get points and that’s still our mantra because, if we don’t win any more points between now and the end of the season, then we are getting relegated. We could be the prettiest team in the league but we will still be relegated and I would rather be the ugliest team in the league and be picking up points and stay up. But, to be fair, against Falkirk and Morton, they did both.”

His two interviews alone in the Scotsman should be his interview over and done with :
- http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/ian-murray-ready-to-call-on-old-bosses-at-dumbarton-1-2652903
- http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rock-solid-ian-murray-is-on-a-roll-at-dumbarton-1-2734789

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Love when someone starts a thread then doesn't appear again.

As for bringing in Murray NO THANKS. He's about 10 years to early.

In fairness, I think he was due a long sleep.

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This paragraph alone makes me think Ian is better suited than butcher for the hibs job alone "At the moment, because of where we [Dumbarton] are in the league, I’ve told them that I don’t care how they play as long as they get points and that’s still our mantra because, if we don’t win any more points between now and the end of the season, then we are getting relegated. We could be the prettiest team in the league but we will still be relegated and I would rather be the ugliest team in the league and be picking up points and stay up. But, to be fair, against Falkirk and Morton, they did both.”

His two interviews alone in the Scotsman should be his interview over and done with :
- http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...rton-1-2652903
- http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football...rton-1-2734789

I hope one day he will go on and become Hibs boss, but I don't think it's his time just now and wouldn't be fair to expect him to come in and turn round the mess TB has made.

I don't remember reading those articles before but imo he spoke a lot of sense, in particular "As soon as you lose the dressing room you are finished."

[GreenArmyyy!]

Jeez this place gets worse. I worry for the effects Hibs are having on our mental health.

[patch1875]

He's obviously lost the dressing room, with many of them around next season they have a problem.

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I really dont don't think butcher is the problem. It's Petrie and co. Petrie has consistently put too many restrictions on our managers to the detriment of the team on the park.

I agree Petrie is the problem as he continually hires clowns to manage our club. what restrictions is Rod putting on our managers?

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I agree Petrie is the problem as he continually hires clowns to manage our club. what restrictions is Rod putting on our managers?

No more than 1 up front. Don't know why he insists on it.

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He's obviously lost the dressing room, with many of them around next season they have a problem.

We have a problem. Outside Aberdeen and Celtic, we likely pay more than any other club in the SPL. As a result, it's probable that we'll have to pay them all off vastly reducing our budget for new players.

On top of that we don't have a cup final to influence ST sales so they'll take a hit. Then there's TB's style of football. Another hit.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Ian Murray isn't ready for the Hibs job yet. Let him keep doing what he is doing at Dumbarton. He will be our manager in a few years though!

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I agree Petrie is the problem as he continually hires clowns to manage our club. what restrictions is Rod putting on our managers?

I would hardly refer to Butcher as a clown nor most of the others he hired barring Calderwood. At the time every manager we have brought in they had done well with the team before. It's at our club they get ruined.

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I agree Petrie is the problem as he continually hires clowns to manage our club. what restrictions is Rod putting on our managers?

Absolute rubbish post. How many of the recent managers, Collins, Mixu etc etc were met with universal disapproval from Hibs fans? For the most part he was appointing who the majority were asking for but don't let that stand in the way of daft statements.

[capitals_finest]

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resign. Ian Murray in to save us.

Ridiculous statement.

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Absolute rubbish post. How many of the recent managers, Collins, Mixu etc etc were met with universal disapproval from Hibs fans? For the most part he was appointing who the majority were asking for but don't let that stand in the way of daft statements.

Thanks for that. I'm struggling to see the relevance of fans 'universal disapproval.'

Unless the bloke as a staunch Jambo i'm struggling to think of someone who would meet with 'universal disapproval'. Usually what happens, when someone is appointed, most fans get on with it and back the manager.

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This paragraph alone makes me think Ian is better suited than butcher for the hibs job alone "At the moment, because of where we [Dumbarton] are in the league, I’ve told them that I don’t care how they play as long as they get points and that’s still our mantra because, if we don’t win any more points between now and the end of the season, then we are getting relegated. We could be the prettiest team in the league but we will still be relegated and I would rather be the ugliest team in the league and be picking up points and stay up. But, to be fair, against Falkirk and Morton, they did both.”

His two interviews alone in the Scotsman should be his interview over and done with :
- http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/ian-murray-ready-to-call-on-old-bosses-at-dumbarton-1-2652903
- http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rock-solid-ian-murray-is-on-a-roll-at-dumbarton-1-2734789

Youve just convinced me hes not the man for the job.

Why do so many people associate playing good football with losing football? In our leagues more often than not youll come up against experienced ugly defenders that'll head balls clear all day long. Pass the ball on the ground quickly in their final third then watch them struggle.

I'd urge ian murray to try and make his team even prettier to watch, if he does that they'll score more goals.

Same applies to butcher.

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TB and his crew would be crazy to do the "honourable thing". Their stock is very low and theres no guarantee they would get another management job at a decent level, anytime soon. They would also give up contractual rights to notice period payments and compensation payments clauses in the event of them getting the tin tack. That's why im now a bit cynical whether PF really walked away or if it was agreed between the parties that it be sold to the fans like that.

Theres no way STF / RP will get rid of the three amigos as the compensation cheque book must have more well thumbed pages than a porn mag in a barbers.

Having been through at Paisley and witnessed the whole debacle im struggling to see when we will score a goal let alone win a game and I fear the worst for Sunday. However I think we heed to keep TB in place for next season and give him the opportunity to turn it around. That's easy for me to say as I wont be getting a ST and wont need to witness the sunday amateur hoofball, if that "style" of football continues. Fair play to those that have the mental strength to carry on and get a ST

IM might well be a future Hibs manager but I think its too early in his career to see how he would cope with dealing with full time professionals and the expectation and pressures of being Hibs manager. He needs to prove himself somewhere between Dumbarton and Hibs first imo.

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TB and his crew would be crazy to do the "honourable thing". Their stock is very low and theres no guarantee they would get another management job at a decent level, anytime soon. They would also give up contractual rights to notice period payments and compensation payments clauses in the event of them getting the tin tack. That's why im now a bit cynical whether PF really walked away or if it was agreed between the parties that it be sold to the fans like that.

Theres no way STF / RP will get rid of the three amigos as the compensation cheque book must have more well thumbed pages than a porn mag in a barbers.

Having been through at Paisley and witnessed the whole debacle im struggling to see when we will score a goal let alone win a game and I fear the worst for Sunday. However I think we heed to keep TB in place for next season and give him the opportunity to turn it around. That's easy for me to say as I wont be getting a ST and wont need to witness the sunday amateur hoofball, if that "style" of football continues. Fair play to those that have the mental strength to carry on and get a ST

IM might well be a future Hibs manager but I think its too early in his career to see how he would cope with dealing with full time professionals and the expectation and pressures of being Hibs manager. He needs to prove himself somewhere between Dumbarton and Hibs first imo.

I think the 'vast majority' of Hibs fan would welcome IM. And if he was appointed by RP then we could hardly complain if it didn't work out.

That's the logic I constantly see being expressed.

BTW completely agree that young Ian is not ready for the Hibs job (and might never be...)

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TB and his crew would be crazy to do the "honourable thing". Their stock is very low and theres no guarantee they would get another management job at a decent level, anytime soon. They would also give up contractual rights to notice period payments and compensation payments clauses in the event of them getting the tin tack. That's why im now a bit cynical whether PF really walked away or if it was agreed between the parties that it be sold to the fans like that.

Think your right about Fenlon, Jordan Forster let it slip in the interview they showed at half time on Alba, he said that Pat Fenlon was sacked.
PF and Petrie obviously came to an agreement for severance and they can dress it up and word it how they like but there was no way Fenlon was going to walk away! Ultimately he was sacked.

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Think your right about Fenlon, Jordan Forster let it slip in the interview they showed at half time on Alba, he said that Pat Fenlon was sacked.
PF and Petrie obviously came to an agreement for severance and they can dress it up and word it how they like but there was no way Fenlon was going to walk away! Ultimately he was sacked.

And rightly so too, but to replace him with someone worse is just fantastic.

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And rightly so too, but to replace him with someone worse is just fantastic.

Fantastic? I thought more like impossible! Somehow Petrie has managed to find that man