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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    Nelson lost the header for the first, Forster went on a mazy for the 2nd.
    OK, I stand corrected. Main point still valid though and that's the 2nd phase. No one in a green shirt was defending or anticipating it.

    That's not the CH's fault.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    It's 2 centre halfs playing in the position they play not talking to each other. That's it. It's not a midfielder dropping into centre half.

    2 guys in their own position can't concentrate for more than 10 seconds.
    I've not seen the goals mate, will take your word for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    OK, I stand corrected. Main point still valid though and that's the 2nd phase. No one in a green shirt was defending or anticipating it.

    That's not the CH's fault.
    I'm not disagreeing - they should help them out. But the point remains if they do their job they don't need bailed out.

    Root cause...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    I'm not disagreeing - they should help them out. But the point remains if they do their job they don't need bailed out.

    Root cause...
    Every goal a team loses has a root cause, so in this instance you are (IMO) being ridiculously picky. You'd be as well saying the fact that we lost the coin toss and St Mirren kicked off was the root cause!

    If our centre halves never, ever lost a header - well, they wouldn't be playing for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Every goal a team loses has a root cause, so in this instance you are (IMO) being ridiculously picky. You'd be as well saying the fact that we lost the coin toss and St Mirren kicked off was the root cause!

    If our centre halves never, ever lost a header - well, they wouldn't be playing for us.
    I'd say it's where the first error is made.

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    Every goal a team loses has a root cause, so in this instance you are (IMO) being ridiculously picky. You'd be as well saying the fact that we lost the coin toss and St Mirren kicked off was the root cause!

    If our centre halves never, ever lost a header - well, they wouldn't be playing for us.
    If St Mirren kicked off then that means we won the coin toss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    I'd say it's where the first error is made.
    Losing a header is an error? OK, I'll bow out here I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Losing a header is an error? OK, I'll bow out here I think
    I knew when I typed it you'd say that.

    I suppose I just like my centre half to win the first header of the match! It is one of the main parts of his job.

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    Aren't they both....... centre halfs ?

    Being coached by one of England's best .... centre halfs ?

    2 full week's prep, they make a right royal cock up and we're 1-0 down in 13 seconds.
    Think back to the game at Easter road when Hanlon went off early injured and Stevenson got done twice out wide and foster and Nelson in middle were left like statues They were 3 0 up so they knew what to do The difference between then and now is that we fought our way back with two Collins headers and should have had a penalty .Now we know that this team as is can't do that .Butcher has to accept he has done things wrong .My worry is players are not now playing for him .hence chopping and changing .but no combination he has tried is working so he has nothing to build on for next game and very limited options if he won't use under 20 s players .So against hearts McGivern will go straight back in yet we all know he is gash just now .

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    What a pratt. And I thought that the match report on official site was bad.

    GTF
    That was said in the heat of the moment. Let me re phrase it.

    I realise he he has to do these interviews but why not just be honest? If he was complacent about possible relegation then he probably thought his strategy would work. Telling players that they had no future at the club might have been his idea of a good idea but it's painfully obvious that it has back fired. If this is the case then man up, admit you cocked it up and tell us your doing what you can to remedy it.

    That might not be the problem i can only make an educated guess about what's going on behind the scenes.

    Saying stuff like that has left him open to ridicule, possibly alienating more fans.

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    Sometimes I think there's no thought to where we play the ball it's just to get it onto the box, there's no clever play, no one tries to get into danger areas.....it isn't pretty and god knows where a goal will come from. Surely they need.to go back to basics....I wish they would just ping the ball from anywhere...

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    1 win in 15, zero goals in 4, 5 straight losses, dropping like a stone, relegation candidates ..... will do that to you. The twisting and jumping is not really the problem, is it.
    I didn't say it was the problem, did I? I said it was "not good". I stand by that.

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