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    Mandelbrot set

    Right folks ....

    I have just discovered the Mandelbrot set I am 42 and i had never heard of this until last night when i was watching a creationist lecture (i know i know)

    This is the video i watched but i realise many people will not watch it as its over an hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkwCl0ymTfg

    Here is a condensed visual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCdnGIuv6I

    This blew my mind and i could not believe that mathematics had this kind of mind boggling information hidden away.

    Are there any Mathematicians on here that have studied this and can add anything to this thread ?

    Seemingly this had been hidden from the world until the 70's/80's when we had the computing power to do it but it can infact be plotted by hand but would take a very very long time

    Wiki link..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set

    This should be shown in all schools imo. If i had been shown this in Maths at school , i would have been hooked.

    Mon the mathematicians
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeping giant View Post
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    Right folks ....

    I have just discovered the Mandelbrot set I am 42 and i had never heard of this until last night when i was watching a creationist lecture (i know i know)

    This is the video i watched but i realise many people will not watch it as its over an hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkwCl0ymTfg

    Here is a condensed visual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCdnGIuv6I

    This blew my mind and i could not believe that mathematics had this kind of mind boggling information hidden away.

    Are there any Mathematicians on here that have studied this and can add anything to this thread ?

    Seemingly this had been hidden from the world until the 70's/80's when we had the computing power to do it but it can infact be plotted by hand but would take a very very long time

    Wiki link..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set

    This should be shown in all schools imo. If i had been shown this in Maths at school , i would have been hooked.

    Mon the mathematicians
    Fractals are exceptionally cool. Someone (Hiber-nation maybe ) had a fractal teacup on a table in their signature that used to make me feel a bit queasy.

    As for the lecture, which I watched on and off while I could stomach it, anyone who comes up with the argument "you'll never see a evolutionary mathematician - 7 didn't involve from 3" as an argument for creation is really preaching to the lowest common denominator. "Its clever, it's beautiful we didn't understand it until recently, and its not made by man, therefore God" is a bit of a flimsy argument to say the least. Why not nature? Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?

    But nonetheless, the maths bit of it was pretty interesting.

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    Hey, I know a Mandelbrot joke!

    Q. What does the B in Benoit B Mandelbrot stand for?
    A. Benoit B Mandelbrot


    ... I didn't say it was funny, did I?

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    Hey, I know a Mandelbrot joke!

    Q. What does the B in Benoit B Mandelbrot stand for?
    A. Benoit B Mandelbrot


    ... I didn't say it was funny, did I?
    I actually laughed at that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twa Cairpets View Post
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    Fractals are exceptionally cool. Someone (Hiber-nation maybe ) had a fractal teacup on a table in their signature that used to make me feel a bit queasy.

    As for the lecture, which I watched on and off while I could stomach it, anyone who comes up with the argument "you'll never see a evolutionary mathematician - 7 didn't involve from 3" as an argument for creation is really preaching to the lowest common denominator. "Its clever, it's beautiful we didn't understand it until recently, and its not made by man, therefore God" is a bit of a flimsy argument to say the least. Why not nature? Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?

    But nonetheless, the maths bit of it was pretty interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Apuleius View Post
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    Think so. Definitely no me anyway. I wouldn't know a fractal teacup from a topographic tea cosy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twa Cairpets View Post
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    Fractals are exceptionally cool. Someone (Hiber-nation maybe ) had a fractal teacup on a table in their signature that used to make me feel a bit queasy.

    As for the lecture, which I watched on and off while I could stomach it, anyone who comes up with the argument "you'll never see a evolutionary mathematician - 7 didn't involve from 3" as an argument for creation is really preaching to the lowest common denominator. "Its clever, it's beautiful we didn't understand it until recently, and its not made by man, therefore God" is a bit of a flimsy argument to say the least. Why not nature? Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?

    But nonetheless, the maths bit of it was pretty interesting.
    I could have written this reply before you replied

    TBH , it was the first i had heard of it . It just so happens it was on that lecture.

    Bloody amazing all the same !

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    Hey, I know a Mandelbrot joke!

    Q. What does the B in Benoit B Mandelbrot stand for?
    A. Benoit B Mandelbrot


    ... I didn't say it was funny, did I?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeping giant View Post
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    I could have written this reply before you replied

    TBH , it was the first i had heard of it . It just so happens it was on that lecture.

    Bloody amazing all the same !

    I am glad to have lived up to expectations...
    I agree though, if you could just have edited out all the "insight into Gods mind stuff", the guy is quite good at getting a brain-bending concept across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twa Cairpets View Post
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    I am glad to have lived up to expectations...
    I agree though, if you could just have edited out all the "insight into Gods mind stuff", the guy is quite good at getting a brain-bending concept across.
    Funnily enough, I've just finished watching it and that's exactly what I thought as well! (Becoming a theme in this thread :-/ )

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    Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?
    I can just about tolerate you trashing deities but don't be starting on pan-dimensional otters. My faith in them is the only thing that keeps me going.

    As for this thread, I did Mandelbrot and Julia sets at uni and my head still hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twa Cairpets View Post
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    I am glad to have lived up to expectations...
    I agree though, if you could just have edited out all the "insight into Gods mind stuff", the guy is quite good at getting a brain-bending concept across.
    I get this though http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uo7D8b5Vgn...0/VDOIN0.D.png

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    Ooohhh I love that. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twa Cairpets View Post
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    Ooohhh I love that. Cheers!
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    First time I've seen that and I loved Maths at school.

    Earth is 6000 years old eh? Who'd have thought it

    Great stuff though - fascinating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee View Post
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    First time I've seen that and I loved Maths at school.

    Earth is 6000 years old eh? Who'd have thought it

    Great stuff though - fascinating.
    Unbelievable trying to explain it to my wife is like the blind leading the blind :-)
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