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    Well done Petrie, you've played another blinder.

    He's managed to shift the blame for the exact same mistakes and attitudes omnipresent throughout his entire tenure as Hibs chairman onto yet another manager. Well played Rod, well played.

    Is there anything this guy can't do? Other than actually preside over a team capable of winning games and showing desire obviously.
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    He might be a bit like that character William H Macy played in "The Cooler".

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    Maybe he has a cunning plan to get two extra money spinning games this year to make up for missiing out on a cup final.

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    Its all part of the five year plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr.rar View Post
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    He's managed to shift the blame for the exact same mistakes and attitudes omnipresent throughout his entire tenure as Hibs chairman onto yet another manager. Well played Rod, well played.

    Is there anything this guy can't do? Other than actually preside over a team capable of winning games and showing desire obviously.
    RP appointed Butcher and his management/coaching team which is what the vast majority, on here at least, were screaming for.

    What exactly has he done since then to affect results. Unless you know of and are willing to relate specific incidents, I don't see the point of this thread.

    We're all fed up and yes, RP (together with STF) is the common denominator in all this, but unless people start giving details, I wish people would shut up about him.

    There's a real lynch mob/playground bully culture on here regarding RP, yet nobody has said exactly what he's done wrong (apart from just being there).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    RP appointed Butcher and his management/coaching team which is what the vast majority, on here at least, were screaming for.

    What exactly has he done since then to affect results. Unless you know of and are willing to relate specific incidents, I don't see the point of this thread.

    We're all fed up and yes, RP (together with STF) is the common denominator in all this, but unless people start giving details, I wish people would shut up about him.

    There's a real lynch mob/playground bully culture on here regarding RP, yet nobody has said exactly what he's done wrong (apart from just being there).

    100% agree

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    yet nobody has said exactly what he's done wrong (apart from just being there).
    That's just not true. A fair number of folk have detailed exactly why Rodders' management of the club is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    That's just not true. A fair number of folk have detailed exactly why Rodders' management of the club is a problem.
    Based on supposition or fact?

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    Based on supposition or fact?
    A lot has been wild speculation. Some of it has been absolutely bang on the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefster View Post
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    A lot has been wild speculation. Some of it has been absolutely bang on the money.
    Like what?

    Do we have proof or are these just theories that happen to fit the facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    RP appointed Butcher and his management/coaching team which is what the vast majority, on here at least, were screaming for.

    What exactly has he done since then to affect results. Unless you know of and are willing to relate specific incidents, I don't see the point of this thread.

    We're all fed up and yes, RP (together with STF) is the common denominator in all this, but unless people start giving details, I wish people would shut up about him.

    There's a real lynch mob/playground bully culture on here regarding RP, yet nobody has said exactly what he's done wrong (apart from just being there).

    Exactly Peeve, same old nonsensical ***** about Petrie. Some people would blame Petrie if it rained when they had washing out.

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    Like what?

    Do we have proof or are these just theories that happen to fit the facts?
    You'll need to go hunting for it, I'm afraid. Rodders' management style, the failings in the club, why certain folk have left the club and morale amongst employees have been well documented on here over the last few years. I gave up banging on about it because folk are only interested when things are really crap (as now).

    Hibs don't operate in a bubble. Employees, ex and current, speak to people and folk have dealings with the club.

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    RP appointed Butcher and his management/coaching team which is what the vast majority, on here at least, were screaming for.

    What exactly has he done since then to affect results. Unless you know of and are willing to relate specific incidents, I don't see the point of this thread.

    We're all fed up and yes, RP (together with STF) is the common denominator in all this, but unless people start giving details, I wish people would shut up about him.

    There's a real lynch mob/playground bully culture on here regarding RP, yet nobody has said exactly what he's done wrong (apart from just being there).

    According to Craig Paterson on the BBC last night we wanted Robson Flood and Rooney but we were prepared to pay 500 a week less than they wanted so they went elsewhere, when you think about it we had Mcmanus training for us pre season and went elsewhere, see a pattern emerging. Petrie does ALL the talks regarding players contracts, we are paying the wages for the level of players we have, some of them second or third choice i would bet.

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    The case against Petrie is well documented in numerous threads on this board. It is objective and compelling. Ultimately, like every company, accountability for persistent underperformance rest with the Board and in particular the chief exec.

    This company's customers are fed up with the quality of the product that has been deteriorating for the last 7 years and have started to walk away. In any other company the Owner/shareholders would take action by replacing the man in charge. Sadly Hibs owner has no interest in Hibs or it's customers.

    The situation is so bad at Hibs that we're not even allowed to fully enjoy the demise of a club that has heaped pain on us over many years. The current players, management and Board have even denied us that.

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    Petrie has us on a road to nowhere.

    How anyone can be confident of his leadership is - frankly - staggering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenpaper55 View Post
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    According to Craig Paterson on the BBC last night we wanted Robson Flood and Rooney but we were prepared to pay 500 a week less than they wanted so they went elsewhere, when you think about it we had Mcmanus training for us pre season and went elsewhere, see a pattern emerging. Petrie does ALL the talks regarding players contracts, we are paying the wages for the level of players we have, some of them second or third choice i would bet.
    Well...if Craig Paterson said so then what are we waiting for? I can probably make a start on the RP effigy on my lunch break today.

    I for one cannot believe the audacity of a chairman wanting to stick to a wage structure. Raging. And a playing budget bigger than most other SPL teams. Furious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    Based on supposition or fact?
    It's as plain as the nose on your face that Petrie is the biggest problem at HFC. His time was up long ago. As you can see (or not from France) we ar now being treated to the fruits of successive managerial disasters that he made in Fenlon and Calderwood. The club is a mess, it lacks any sort of leadership and its sinking faster than a stone.

    Yet, where is Petrie in all this? Hiding. As usual.

    I don't want to hear a fluffy statement from Rod, I want to hear he is standing down and getting someone in who cares passionately about running a football club and driving it forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    The case against Petrie is well documented in numerous threads on this board. It is objective and compelling. Ultimately, like every company, accountability for persistent underperformance rest with the Board and in particular the chief exec.

    This company's customers are fed up with the quality of the product that has been deteriorating for the last 7 years and have started to walk away. In any other company the Owner/shareholders would take action by replacing the man in charge. Sadly Hibs owner has no interest in Hibs or it's customers.

    The situation is so bad at Hibs that we're not even allowed to fully enjoy the demise of a club that has heaped pain on us over many years. The current players, management and Board have even denied us that.
    Good post. Agree completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    RP appointed Butcher and his management/coaching team which is what the vast majority, on here at least, were screaming for.

    What exactly has he done since then to affect results. Unless you know of and are willing to relate specific incidents, I don't see the point of this thread.

    We're all fed up and yes, RP (together with STF) is the common denominator in all this, but unless people start giving details, I wish people would shut up about him.

    There's a real lynch mob/playground bully culture on here regarding RP, yet nobody has said exactly what he's done wrong (apart from just being there).


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    Quote Originally Posted by TQM View Post
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    Petrie has us on a road to nowhere.

    How anyone can be confident of his leadership is - frankly - staggering.
    Aye, but there's having no confidence in RP, and then there's the situation we are in where absolutely everything seems to be blamed on him. The players we sign are *****. Rods fault. East Mains isn't working well enough, the training is ****. Rods fault. The team fail to perform in the derby for the millionth time. Rods fault. The management team most folk seemed happy with get the job, but don't do the miracle job folk wanted. Rods fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Aye, but there's having no confidence in RP, and then there's the situation we are in where absolutely everything seems to be blamed on him. The players we sign are *****. Rods fault. East Mains isn't working well enough, the training is ****. Rods fault. The team fail to perform in the derby for the millionth time. Rods fault. The management team most folk seemed happy with get the job, but don't do the miracle job folk wanted. Rods fault.
    Come on you are being daft here.No one can blame him for that.

    However, you can certainly blame him for selecting managers who then go and sign crap players with as much pace as my 78 year old ma'. He leads from the top, he makes the calls and he has got it spectacularly wrong over the last 7 or 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    Like what?

    Do we have proof or are these just theories that happen to fit the facts?
    How about failing to sign flood and rooney, Two quality players that could end up being the difference between Spfl and championship status...just because the sheepies offered them £500 a week more.

    You have to speculate to accumulate....When has that ever gone wrong in this city


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    He's managed to shift the blame for the exact same mistakes and attitudes omnipresent throughout his entire tenure as Hibs chairman onto yet another manager. Well played Rod, well played.

    Is there anything this guy can't do? Other than actually preside over a team capable of winning games and showing desire obviously.
    Petrie didn't shape that team up last night, petrie didn't play one up top at home, he didn't pick Cairney and McGivern when we have excellent players in our u20s squad, he didn't take off our only midfielder fighting for the ball, he didn't sub Collins in 89mins when we were 2 goals behind. LETS BE VERY CLEAR. Recent results are 100% the fault of Terry Butcher. Dreadful tactics and dreadful man management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngyosh View Post
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    How about failing to sign flood and rooney, Two quality players that could end up being the difference between Spfl and championship status...just because the sheepies offered them £500 a week more.

    You have to speculate to accumulate....When has that ever gone wrong in this city

    :offski
    I've seen absolutely nae evidence to suggest an extra £500 a week would have signed us those players. Some people say Aberdeen offered them £500 more than us, but I see no reason why they would have signed for Hibs over Aberdeen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    Petrie didn't shape that team up last night, petrie didn't play one up top at home, he didn't pick Cairney and McGivern when we have excellent players in our u20s squad, he didn't take off our only midfielder fighting for the ball, he didn't sub Collins in 89mins when we were 2 goals behind. LETS BE VERY CLEAR. Recent results are 100% the fault of Terry Butcher. Dreadful tactics and dreadful man management.
    You won't find many who think Butcher should escape criticism. All your points are very valid. But our problems go much, much deeper than the current manager (who has had a single january window remember).

    You want Butcher sacked? Then what, have Rod appoint another dud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Come on you are being daft here.No one can blame him for that.

    However, you can certainly blame him for selecting managers who then go and sign crap players with as much pace as my 78 year old ma'. He leads from the top, he makes the calls and he has got it spectacularly wrong over the last 7 or 8 years.
    So you're saying a manager should ask to sign a player and the chairman should say "too slow, no deal"?

    Or maybe at the interview he should ask the potential managers how quick his transfer targets are?

    Who do you want to decide who we sign? Manager or chairman?

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    You won't find many who think Butcher should escape criticism. All your points are very valid. But our problems go much, much deeper than the current manager (who has had a single january window remember).

    You want Butcher sacked? Then what, have Rod appoint another dud?
    I'll take the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    So you're saying a manager should ask to sign a player and the chairman should say "too slow, no deal"?

    Or maybe at the interview he should ask the potential managers how quick his transfer targets are?

    Who do you want to decide who we sign? Manager or chairman?
    Well done for missing the point completely easty.

    You watch Hibs, you have seen the decline. Consistently poor managerial appointments have led to a dreadful standard of player in a green and white jersey. Petrie carries the can for that as he picks those that then pick the team.

    His failure to act in best interests of the football team have contributed greatly to our demise. His time is up.

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    I'll take the job.
    Now give me a real answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    You won't find many who think Butcher should escape criticism. All your points are very valid. But our problems go much, much deeper than the current manager (who has had a single january window remember).

    You want Butcher sacked? Then what, have Rod appoint another dud?
    And brought in 3 players on deadline day, who he does not play very often

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