Team vs County

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Everyone position is up for grabs after that game.

[Ronniekirk]

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Yeah ,avoiding the play off spot but that's about it

II said February was a crucial month .ok the cups gone but a few league wins would keep us fighting for 6 th but it is all down now to mentality of some of these players and whether TB and M M can get them regrouped and motivated and pick right team for county and Killie who will be looking to overtake us .We have put pressure back on ourselves and if we don't show resilience then we will know the extent of overhaul needed in summer it's as simple as that.

[silverhibee]

Pretty much doubt KT will be in the starting 11 for the weekend.

[Ronniekirk]

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Pretty much doubt KT will be in the starting 11 for the weekend.

If he is it would be a panic move as he isn't fully fit .He needs to get back to who he thinks is best 11 and go back to basics making us hard to beat .if he tinkers with team every week it lest steams know we don't know our best 11 and gives them even more encouragement .the problem is Heff has lost form since injury , Cummings wasn't scoring so can understand why he has dropped out ,Collins can't score regularly enough to give team confidence we can rely on him Watmore looks a player but will take time to fit in but looks like worth keeping his place ,Hayes hasn't good scoring record so do we play him in Harris position as he is also just back from injury and would be better coming on when we are back winning than being expected to produce game winning play this early ,he needs to regain confidence and touch .So it is a difficult dilemma for T B as he needs to find a combination that works but also get midfield that so far only Stanton is assured of place .Defence well I have no idea what's happened there it just seems to have collapsed.

[GreenLake]

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I wonder who will be captain next week?

Hopefully whoever it is will retain the armband thereafter.

[Stringer]

Williams

Boateng Hanlon Forster Stevenson

KT McGivern

Haynes Robertson Harris

Stanton

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Williams

Boateng
Hanlon
Forster
Stevenson

Robertson
Thomson
Stanton

Haynes
Heffernan
Watmore

Or

Williams

Boateng
Hanlon
Forster
McGivern

Watmore
Robertson
Thomson
Stanton/Stevenson

Haynes
Heff

[Hamish]

Malkowski

Renwick
Cooper
Marinkov
Tortolano

Holsgrove
Guggi
Wiss
Fellenger

Trakys
Ward

[GreenOnions]

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People see one up front, like against Raith, and think it isn't offensive enough. It was actually more attacking than playing a 4-4-2 in my opinion. Having a striker supported by three pacey attacking midfielders certainly isn't defensive.

I would drop Forster as he isn't a right back. Give the new boy a chance. I would play Heffernan as I believe he is the best finisher at the club even though he doesn't work as hard as Collins. Stanton, Watmore and Harris would play behind the striker and out wide, running into channels and getting crosses in.

I've left the two defensive midfielder blank because I don't have a clue. I think Terry's idea is that these two get stuck in and dictate play and he was badly let down in this respect against Raith. This isn't Craig's game and if he's going to play this system a lot I can't see Craig adapting. I don't know what Taiwo is any more, Thomson is class but maybe slows things down and I don't think Robertson is that type of player either.

Maybe Thomson plus a.n. other is the answer for the rest of the season. Next season I would love to see a happy Thomson alongside Claros in those roles. That would do nicely.

I agree with much of your thinking here - especially the bit in bold.

I also like the idea of partnering Forster with Hanlon. Since Forster came into the team late last season it's been easily our best pairing - and that's with Forster still having a lot of experience still to gain. I've said since watching the first league game of the season that I think Nelson is a good honest pro and I'd be happy to have him on the bench. He's not the answer for a team trying to reach top three/four. He's effective when the play is static (set pieces for and against) and at heading away goal kicks. However, in open play he's very much a liability with his chronic lack of pace and extremely poor distribution a serious problem. Forster and Hanlon has a lot of potential. With next season in mind I think as a partnership and, irrespective of debates about other positions I think it's worth starting to build with that. I'd go for:

.................Williams

Boateng..Forster..Hanlon..Stevenson

..........Robertson..Thomson
Watmore............................Harris
................Stanton
....................Haynes

[JimBHibees]

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I have to laugh at people putting Thomson ans McGivern in their teams. Are they not aware that both players are injured?

Really surprised that Robertson never got any time on the park on Saturday as I think that's what we were crying out for as he is a much better option than Zoubir.

Was Robertson on the bench on Saturday? If so criminal he didnt get on especially in the second half with his energy. Could easily IMO moved Craig to wide left and Robertson and Taiwo in the middle would have made us better in the middle of the park.

[Jones28]

4-4-2 for me.

Williams

Boateng
Forster
Hanlon
Stevenson

Watmore
Robertson
Thomson
Harris

Stanton
Collins

[PerfectlyFranck]

Lots of people adamant on playing a centre-back at right-back.
Forster is a better right-back than this chap would be and I'm not sure on Forster at right-back in the first place.

Boateng will be playing at centre-back this evening, for the u20s, like he has done for his other teams.

[Pretty Boy]

Williams

Forster
Boateng
Hanlon
McGivern

Watmore
Robertson
Taiwo
Stevenson

Stanton

Heffernan

Harris, Craig, Nelson and Collins our 4 poorest from Saturday dropping out. If McGivern is fit get Lewis back to his proper position.

[Ronniekirk]

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Lots of people adamant on playing a centre-back at right-back.
Forster is a better right-back than this chap would be and I'm not sure on Forster at right-back in the first place.

Boateng will be playing at centre-back this evening, for the u20s, like he has done for his other teams.

Throw a young player into a losing team and it can go one of two ways .Plays great or makes some early mistakes and confidence affected so how he plays in under 20 game will partly determine if he should get opportunity or nor on Saturday .Ross county will be up for it as we have beaten them twice under butcher ,but they have new players .This for me is now a very difficult game for us

[CapitalHibs]

Williams

Forster
Boateng
Hanlon

Tudur-Jones

Watmore
Robertson
Stanton

Handling

Heffernen
Haynes

[RN Hibee]

Williams

Forster
Hanlon
Nelson
Stevenson

Stanton
Robertson
Taiwo
Watmore

Heffernan
Collins

Going with Nelson in defence simply down to his experience, throwing Boateng in there would give us a pretty young defence and with Lewis not playing in his most comfortable position we need experience. Stanton over Harris on merit and the fact that playing Stanton in the centre with Harris out wide leaves our defence too exposed. Heffernan to start as I feel Haynes brings more threat from the bench than he does, ideal if we need a goal in the 2nd half.

[The_Horde]

Craig suspended and Robertson out.

Here's what I'd go for.

Williams

Forster Nelson Boateng Hanlon

Harris Stevenson Thomson Watmore

Stanton

Haynes

[Billychaotic182]

Horne (May as well look to the future since Williams is prob going)

Forster Nelson Boateng Hanlon

Robertson Taiwo

Haynes Stanton Watmore

Heff

[JimBHibees]

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Craig suspended and Robertson out.

Here's what I'd go for.

Williams

Forster Nelson Boateng Hanlon

Harris Stevenson Thomson Watmore

Stanton

Haynes

Craig out eh, now becomes clear to me the cheat knew exactly what he was doing booking him in the Tic game.

Having watched Boateng last night wouldnt have thought he was very close to a first team slot especially central defence as didnt look convincing in the air. I would bring in the u20s right back and play Forster, Nelson and Hanlon pushing Lewis into midfield. OTJ and Taiwo in the middle with Lewis left and Watmore right with Haynes up and Stanton playing off to start or maybe playing Heff and Collins up if Haynes not ready to start.

[Brightside]

Williams

Forster
Nelson
Hanlon
Stevenson The back 4 just picks itself at the moment.

Taiwo

Harris
Stanton
< AN Other > Need a strong player covering for Stanton. OTJ and Thomson still not fit.
Watmore

Haynes

Play a 4-1-4-1 With a diamond in midfield.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

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Craig suspended and Robertson out.

Here's what I'd go for.

Williams

Forster Nelson Boateng Hanlon

Harris Stevenson Thomson Watmore

Stanton

Haynes

Is Robertson defo out?

[Brightside]

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Is Robertson defo out?

Not confirmed but probable according to player.

[E10 Rifle]

Williams

Maybury Hanlon Nelson Forster

Watmore Taiwo Stanton Stevenson

Haynes Heffernan


To play Boateng at right back leaves us too exposed as while Watmore is good going forward I felt the luxury of playing him left the RB exposed at times on Sat. You need someone with experience behind him and Maybury fills that space. Stevenson plays his best at LM and is on much better form than Harris but can Forster switch? If Robertson was available he would replace Taiwo in this side.

On a pure 'last performance' basis I'd drop Nelson and Williams but I suppose Nelson poses a threat at corners and set pieces (unfortunately at both ends!) and Murdoch is fairly untried so not really the time to make a change there.

I'd like to see Haynes and Heff up front but feel pretty sure he'll stick with Collins.

At the end of the day this is all just guff anyway as I'm sure he'll stick with the 4-4-1-1 that the club seems to playing at the minute.

[Wotherspiniesta]

If Robertson, Craig and Thomson are all out that's a bit of a worry!

For me;

Williams

Maybury Forster Hanlon McGivern

Watmore OTJ Taiwo Stanton

Collins Haynes

Two sitting midfielders should allow us four decent attacking options, with suitable cover for a more experienced back line. Maybury may not be everybodys cup of tea but we need some stabliity back into that backline and it wont be enhanced (IMO by throwing in a guy whos never kicked a ball for the first team, or indeed keeping Forster there who had a mare on Saturday. Stevenson i'm afraid to say is the jack of all trades but the master of none. Although maybe not directly at fault for the goals at the weekend, we certainly seem to leak goals with him in our defence, and I'd much rather Stanton ahead of him at LM. Nelson's not good enough IMO and isn't going to improve at 35(?) year old and I'd be worried about the lack of pace if he were alongside Maybury.

Ultimately you can shuffle the pack around all you like, but they need to start getting the basics right. Think this team has the best chance of doing that.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Williams

Maybury
Forster
Hanlon
McGivern

Watmore
Thomson/Robertson
Stanton
Stevenson

Haynes
Heff

[007 Mickey Weir]

Williams

Forster
Nelson
Hanlon
Stevenson

Watmore
Taiwo
Stanton
Zoubir

Heff
Haynes

Grant
Boateng
Harris
Handling
Collins
Maybury
Cairney

Everybody needs to play in normal position. Harris to come on as an impact player. Too much pressure on him just now. Swap Taiwo for Robertson or Thomson if fit.

[California-Hibs]

Madness that some few people are putting Tawio in the team. He's far too mediocre to be in our 1st 11 and we have better options than playing him IMO.

Williams
Forster Nelson Hanlon McGivern

Watmore Robertson Thomson Harris

Haynes Heffernan


That is our strongest team when everyone is available IMO.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Williams

Forster Nelson Hanlon Stevenson

Watmore Boetang Stanton Harris

Collins Heynes

[Ronniekirk]

Some said the back four of Foster ,Nelson ,Hanlon and Stevenson pick itself but that has cost us 10 goals in three home games.Derek Adams will be aware of what other teams have done by getting players wide and putting balls into the box .so we need to have worked on ways to stop teams being able to do that Even options in midfield are now curtailed with Craig Robertson Thompson and OTj all not available Think this now becomes a tricky game to win on back of recent form but that's when we might just go out and turn it around

[California-Hibs]

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Madness that some few people are putting Tawio in the team. He's far too mediocre to be in our 1st 11 and we have better options than playing him IMO.

Williams
Forster Nelson Hanlon McGivern

Watmore Robertson Thomson Harris

Haynes Heffernan


That is our strongest team when everyone is available IMO.

I meant to add that I think Stanton, Stevenson and Craig (on St Johnstone/early Hibs career starts form) can both be included when any of the above midfield aren't performing.

Durey is still out (just) on Collins for me.

Tudor Jones
Tawio
Cairney
Mcpake

Are all the players that can gladly leave and free up wages for us in the summer.