Depression and anxiety

[Stairway 2 7]

Pretty interesting data from life satisfaction survey depending on age. It's really downhill after your teens. But I'm surprised how awesome post 60yo is, can't wait.

Although I'm sure when my generation get there their will be hardly a government pension and half my peers won't have the satisfaction of a paid of mortgage.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ACJSisson...18964710006784

[Hiber-nation]

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Pretty interesting data from life satisfaction survey depending on age. It's really downhill after your teens. But I'm surprised how awesome post 60yo is, can't wait.

Although I'm sure when my generation get there their will be hardly a government pension and half my peers won't have the satisfaction of a paid of mortgage.

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That's surprising. There's a lot to be said for being over 60, retired and having a supposedly stress-free life but that's not the reality for me and most of my mates. It's pretty frustrating either not being able to do or not actually wanting to do a lot of the things that you loved doing when you were younger.

[HarpOnHibee]

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It's pretty frustrating either not being able to do or not actually wanting to do a lot of the things that you loved doing when you were younger.

I'm half your age and I've been there for a good 15 years or so. My cynical nature has really turned me against the world for the most part.

[LustForLeith]

There’s a changing room drop in this Monday. A chance for people to tackle their mental health through football

Famous five stand at 6. It’s safe, confidential and free

See you there 👍

[Lendo]

It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

[surreyhibbie]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

Makes a massive difference to me personally.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

It helps me through a weekend, by Tuesday that effect has worn off almost completely though


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[Smartie]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

More than I think is healthy.

[stu in nottingham]

It doesn’t really change my mood in any significant way. I take a little lift on a Saturday night out with friends after a good result but I quickly forget the losses. I suppose it’s all about living with acceptance and I’ve long learned how to deal with the vagaries of the Hibs in that way.

I wouldn’t at all trivialise it though. I can absolutely understand how it can trigger darker moods for some.

[Hiber-nation]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

It's great but it makes me more stressed for the next game!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

A win (or a loss for that matter) doesn't influence my mood so much now than it used to, it's probably much better for me in the long run.

[Just_Jimmy]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

It depends on the context tbh. Sometimes it's hard to shake a defeat. A win makes me feel better but not a huge high.

I really wish I didn't care about football or Hibs, I'd be healthier for it.

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[Bridge hibs]

I need hibs in some shape or form in my life, they have been a part of it longer than my marriage or or my Daughters. Hibs were part of my social circle whereas win we can rejoice over a few beers, lose we can drown our sorrows over a few beers. That was it, it was over and done with on a Saturday and then onto the next Saturday for more

That was then

Nowadays I dont go out drinking so have lost a lot of my social circle, but that said we are all older and wiser. Hibs piss me off now and then but they just have that habit of making things seem so perfect, the Scottish cup win being a prime example

Anxiety though, thats on a different plane, hibs do nothing to trigger that, unfortunately thats a wee thing called life and it just throws a curve ball now and then

[LustForLeith]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

I try not to let it get to me.

I struggle to worry about things within my control. Never mind Hibs!

[LewysGot2]

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It’s an insignificance in the grand scheme of things really, but I’m curious, how much does a Hibs win change your mood for the week ahead?

It absolutely impacts on how I feel. And I embrace the positive impact when we win. What I've learned to do as I've got older is not let defeats impact too negatively.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Does anyone else suffer from sporadic bouts of insomnia? Been having a torrid time with it recently, cannot get a wink of sleep no matter what I try.


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[Liam89]

Anyone else get frustrated at relapsing from their anxiety?

Feel like the time between my bouts of anxiety are becoming shorter and shorter. Used to go through a few periods a year but the last few years it's been a cycle of anxiety-recovery-relapse-anxiety, I find a new coping mechanism or technique that works, gives me a few weeks of peace and then I end up back to square one.

Also feels like I need to keep up a perfect routine to live without it, if I stop exercising for a few days or if I'm working (remote) and don't leave the house one day it bubbles up and spills over.

It's the physical manifestation of symptoms that's the ruiner, dizziness / nausea / derealisation sucks the joy out of life when you're doing activities or at an event you want to be enjoying.

I've got holiday's coming up this year which instead of looking forward to I'm just worrying about whether I'll actually enjoy them or not or be stuck in my own head.

I need to remind myself it's not all bad, I go through plenty periods of calm and happiness and many are far worse off but it just wears you down.

[Berwickhibby]

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Does anyone else suffer from sporadic bouts of insomnia? Been having a torrid time with it recently, cannot get a wink of sleep no matter what I try.


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Speak with your Dr, I also suffer with insomnia and got prescribed zopiclone which I will take when it gets really bad. They work and really help you sleep.

[HarpOnHibee]

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Does anyone else suffer from sporadic bouts of insomnia? Been having a torrid time with it recently, cannot get a wink of sleep no matter what I try.

It's absolutely horrible. Just last year I went about 6 months with next to no sleep at all due to a protracted Benzodiazepine withdrawal, I was losing all grip on reality. Even although I sleep more now, I go through bouts of fragmented sleep where i'll wake up every 20-40 minutes, sometimes in a bit of a panic.

I've found that making sure I get an adequate amount of Magnesium in my diet each day has helped. Not just with insomnia, but with anxiety and depression as well.

Hope your bout comes to an end soon (assuming you're currently experiencing one).

[Stairway 2 7]

Liked this from Nick on choosing hope rather than despair. Some people say a break from social media is good for the mind as its constant doom porn. Perhaps the Holy ground is similar. Most threads are just constant doom, bad news and criticism of people and parties (merited mostly but none the less). Life outside is definitely more positive and beautiful. We're surrounded by beautiful parks in Edinburgh, they get you away from the potholes apparently

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cox_A_R/s...19056437133313

[Smartie]

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Liked this from Nick on choosing hope rather than despair. Some people say a break from social media is good for the mind as its constant doom porn. Perhaps the Holy ground is similar. Most threads are just constant doom, bad news and criticism of people and parties (merited mostly but none the less). Life outside is definitely more positive and beautiful. We're surrounded by beautiful parks in Edinburgh, they get you away from the potholes apparently

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cox_A_R/s...19056437133313

I must admit - there are people, subjects, activities and places that if I avoid them I quickly become immeasurably better whilst if I do the opposite, the opposite is true.

If only it was easy to make the right choices.

[Stairway 2 7]

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I must admit - there are people, subjects, anctivities and places that if I avoid them I quickly become immeasurably better whilst if I do the opposite, the opposite is true.

If only it was easy to make the right choices.

The way the world is its admittedly impossible, but I'm certainly guilty of picking up the phone more than is helpful

[Bridge hibs]

Interesting read - Back Onside charity & how they helped hibs fan Calum Peat, Ive copied & pasted the full story rather than the link

Calum peat

Calum Peat was in hospital due to mental health problems when Libby Emmerson, founder of Back Onside, reached out. 3 years later, he is in a much better place thanks to the charity, his family and a special football club close to his heart.

He said: “It was Libby who basically rescued me. In December 2018, I was hospitalised in the Isle of Man and I was tweeting stuff about Hibernian.

“On New Years Day, Libby found one of my posts and reached out to me. I’ve been in contact with her almost everyday since then but I had no idea about the charity until she messaged me.

“She was alerted by one tweet but looked through them all and she could see I’d been in hospital with mental health issues. She sent me a private message before calling me the next and within two weeks she visited me on the Isle of Man. She goes above and beyond to help people.

“She visited me in hospital on the Island and when I was moved to Essex in March 2019, she still came down to visit. She’s not just been a huge help to me but also my family. I often think that it’s too good to be true because the amount of time and effort she’s invested in me is truly amazing.

Despite moving to the Isle of Man before his second birthday, Calum is proud of his Scottish heritage and remains obsessed with a football club based in the city of his birth, Edinburgh. Hibernian Football Club holds a very special place in Callum’s heart.

On the 21st of May 2016 at Hampden Park, the scene of the club’s most memorable win in recent history, jubilant Hibees blasted out the iconic “Sunshine on Leith” after winning their first Scottish Cup in 114 years.

The Proclaimers anthem, now synonymous with the club, resonates with Calum. Easter Road can be a sanctuary, a place where a fan can escape the troubles and pressures of life for 90 minutes.

Hibs played an important role in Calum’s life and, knowing this, Libby arranged for two of his heroes to get in touch. Although neither still patrolled the dugout in Leith, Neil Lennon and Alan Stubbs both took the time to pick up the phone and the impact those conversations had on his recovery is immeasurable.

“Libby knew how much I loved Hibs so she passed on my number to Stubbs. It didn’t seem real at the time, speaking to someone you class as a legend but he said he was just doing his job.

“We spoke for about 45 minutes and he was asking about my life. We discussed the Scottish Cup final win and I quizzed him on the starting eleven and the substitutes he brought on. He managed to get them all correct except from Niklas Gunnarsson, who came on as a sub.

“Neil gets a bad reputation from people but they don’t appreciate how much he does for mental health charities. He was out a walk and spoke to me about Hibs but we talked about mental health more.

We were discussing how the illness doesn’t discriminate. You can suffer from it no matter how successful you are or how much money you’ve got. It gives you hope that you can get help if you reach out and speak to people which can be the hardest thing to do.” Peat, added.

The club also helped when they offered him the chance to become co-commentator alongside Cliff Pike for the Scottish Premiership clash against Hamilton.

He said: “Cliff reached out and encouraged me to get in touch once I was out of hospital. He said to come to Easter Road and he’d take be to the commentary booth.

“I thought he might have just been saying that to make me feel better but I’m so grateful that he kept his word.I had no idea that I’d be on duties, I thought I’d just be standing there and listening in.

It was such a good day. We went behind but eventually won and although it was a cold night, it was worth it. I was very nervous about doing it but Cliff made it so easy for me, it was like I was just having a chat to a friend. It’s hard not to be too biased on commentary, you couldn’t see me celebrating the winner but you could probably hear it.

A lots of Hibs fans follow me on twitter and they got in touch with me to say I was amazing. It was nice to get those well wishes.

The opportunity arose just two months after Calum was discharged from hospital. He had returned to Scotland to spend time with his two families; football and blood – of which he now includes Libby.

“People think that it’s only football but it’s so much more than that. You spend a lot of money following them week in and week out which can be difficult especially when they get beat most of the time.

“When they first replied to me on twitter, I thought that was the best thing that could ever happen. That led to strangers messaging me and wishing me all the best.

“If you don’t have charities like Back Onside then suicide rates would be through the roof. If you can get donations, no matter the amount, then it’s a massive help to Libby. She deserves it so they can provide the support that people deserve.

I can’t put into words what Libby has done for me, I’ll never be able to repay her. She’s part of my family now, she stayed with my parents when she visited and joined in all the shenanigans. My parents supported her on the Kiltwalk to raise money for Back Onside,” expressed, Peat.

Calum has been discharged for almost three months now and is enjoying the freedom of living in his own place for the first time. Living closer to his family has eased that transition and he appreciates how beneficial a good relationship with family can be for your mental health.

He said: “All my family are up here whether that be in Livingston or Ayrshire and my mum, dad and sister are in the Isle of Man.

“When I was in hospital in Essex, I was the only patient who got any visitors. There was a fellow patient whose family lived just five minutes away and they never visited. It puts it into perspective just how lucky I am to have my family around me.

“I don’t know where I’d be without my mum and dad. They struggled with it, we had family therapy which was difficult at times. It was tough on them but they still got the boat over to Liverpool and travelled down to Essex every fortnight.

“My parents are concerned about me during lockdown but I’m in a better place now as before I wouldn’t want to worry them. I didn’t want to upset them but now it’s easier to talk to them, I can tell them anything.”

Calum can’t comprehend the extent of Libby’s support and she’s helped put him in touch with more of his Hibernian heroes.

“Tam McManus messaged me and said I could grab a pint with him whenever. With no football currently it’s difficult to do that but I’d love to take him up on his offer one day.

He was part of one of our best teams in recent years when all the young players broke through. We were the best team in Scotland outside the Old Firm and he was a cracking player.

Marvin Bartley called while he was still at Hibernian and he was a proper nice guy. We’ve kept in touch on social media although it’s a shame that he’s left the club now ” Peat, concluded.

Opening up and admitting you’re struggling with your mental health can be the most difficult part of the journey to recovery. People can be empowered by seeing their footballing heroes break the stigma of mental health. After all, it’s more than just a game.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I know that some on here are interested in the use of psychedelics in dealing with mental health issues.

A friend of mine has arranged this event, to discuss exactly that, with a Parliamentary event immediately afterwards.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/psych...s-512018159097

Just bumping this event, which is on this coming Wednesday.

[hibsbollah]

I listened to this this morning, very interesting and the Scottish approach to multi agency working to prevent suicide seems very positive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0...n=share-mobile

[Santa Cruz]

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I listened to this this morning, very interesting and the Scottish approach to multi agency working to prevent suicide seems very positive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0...n=share-mobile

I listened to this the other night. I forgot to reply earlier my thanks for posting it, it helped me understand something I hadn't picked up on before.

[hibsbollah]

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I listened to this the other night. I forgot to reply earlier my thanks for posting it, it helped me understand something I hadn't picked up on before.

The thing I took from it is, when dealing with someone who is dealing with suicidal thoughts, avoiding the subject out of fear it will ‘give them ideas’, is misguided. Ask if you think someone needs help.

[LustForLeith]

Hey folks

Just to say the next drop in for the Changing Room is Monday at 6pm. We’re meeting at the Famous Five stand.

For men looking to tackle their mental health through football and Hibs. It’s safe, confidential and free.

See you there 💚

[JimBHibees]

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Interesting read - Back Onside charity & how they helped hibs fan Calum Peat, Ive copied & pasted the full story rather than the link

Calum peat

Calum Peat was in hospital due to mental health problems when Libby Emmerson, founder of Back Onside, reached out. 3 years later, he is in a much better place thanks to the charity, his family and a special football club close to his heart.

He said: “It was Libby who basically rescued me. In December 2018, I was hospitalised in the Isle of Man and I was tweeting stuff about Hibernian.

“On New Years Day, Libby found one of my posts and reached out to me. I’ve been in contact with her almost everyday since then but I had no idea about the charity until she messaged me.

“She was alerted by one tweet but looked through them all and she could see I’d been in hospital with mental health issues. She sent me a private message before calling me the next and within two weeks she visited me on the Isle of Man. She goes above and beyond to help people.

“She visited me in hospital on the Island and when I was moved to Essex in March 2019, she still came down to visit. She’s not just been a huge help to me but also my family. I often think that it’s too good to be true because the amount of time and effort she’s invested in me is truly amazing.

Despite moving to the Isle of Man before his second birthday, Calum is proud of his Scottish heritage and remains obsessed with a football club based in the city of his birth, Edinburgh. Hibernian Football Club holds a very special place in Callum’s heart.

On the 21st of May 2016 at Hampden Park, the scene of the club’s most memorable win in recent history, jubilant Hibees blasted out the iconic “Sunshine on Leith” after winning their first Scottish Cup in 114 years.

The Proclaimers anthem, now synonymous with the club, resonates with Calum. Easter Road can be a sanctuary, a place where a fan can escape the troubles and pressures of life for 90 minutes.

Hibs played an important role in Calum’s life and, knowing this, Libby arranged for two of his heroes to get in touch. Although neither still patrolled the dugout in Leith, Neil Lennon and Alan Stubbs both took the time to pick up the phone and the impact those conversations had on his recovery is immeasurable.

“Libby knew how much I loved Hibs so she passed on my number to Stubbs. It didn’t seem real at the time, speaking to someone you class as a legend but he said he was just doing his job.

“We spoke for about 45 minutes and he was asking about my life. We discussed the Scottish Cup final win and I quizzed him on the starting eleven and the substitutes he brought on. He managed to get them all correct except from Niklas Gunnarsson, who came on as a sub.

“Neil gets a bad reputation from people but they don’t appreciate how much he does for mental health charities. He was out a walk and spoke to me about Hibs but we talked about mental health more.

We were discussing how the illness doesn’t discriminate. You can suffer from it no matter how successful you are or how much money you’ve got. It gives you hope that you can get help if you reach out and speak to people which can be the hardest thing to do.” Peat, added.

The club also helped when they offered him the chance to become co-commentator alongside Cliff Pike for the Scottish Premiership clash against Hamilton.

He said: “Cliff reached out and encouraged me to get in touch once I was out of hospital. He said to come to Easter Road and he’d take be to the commentary booth.

“I thought he might have just been saying that to make me feel better but I’m so grateful that he kept his word.I had no idea that I’d be on duties, I thought I’d just be standing there and listening in.

It was such a good day. We went behind but eventually won and although it was a cold night, it was worth it. I was very nervous about doing it but Cliff made it so easy for me, it was like I was just having a chat to a friend. It’s hard not to be too biased on commentary, you couldn’t see me celebrating the winner but you could probably hear it.

A lots of Hibs fans follow me on twitter and they got in touch with me to say I was amazing. It was nice to get those well wishes.

The opportunity arose just two months after Calum was discharged from hospital. He had returned to Scotland to spend time with his two families; football and blood – of which he now includes Libby.

“People think that it’s only football but it’s so much more than that. You spend a lot of money following them week in and week out which can be difficult especially when they get beat most of the time.

“When they first replied to me on twitter, I thought that was the best thing that could ever happen. That led to strangers messaging me and wishing me all the best.

“If you don’t have charities like Back Onside then suicide rates would be through the roof. If you can get donations, no matter the amount, then it’s a massive help to Libby. She deserves it so they can provide the support that people deserve.

I can’t put into words what Libby has done for me, I’ll never be able to repay her. She’s part of my family now, she stayed with my parents when she visited and joined in all the shenanigans. My parents supported her on the Kiltwalk to raise money for Back Onside,” expressed, Peat.

Calum has been discharged for almost three months now and is enjoying the freedom of living in his own place for the first time. Living closer to his family has eased that transition and he appreciates how beneficial a good relationship with family can be for your mental health.

He said: “All my family are up here whether that be in Livingston or Ayrshire and my mum, dad and sister are in the Isle of Man.

“When I was in hospital in Essex, I was the only patient who got any visitors. There was a fellow patient whose family lived just five minutes away and they never visited. It puts it into perspective just how lucky I am to have my family around me.

“I don’t know where I’d be without my mum and dad. They struggled with it, we had family therapy which was difficult at times. It was tough on them but they still got the boat over to Liverpool and travelled down to Essex every fortnight.

“My parents are concerned about me during lockdown but I’m in a better place now as before I wouldn’t want to worry them. I didn’t want to upset them but now it’s easier to talk to them, I can tell them anything.”

Calum can’t comprehend the extent of Libby’s support and she’s helped put him in touch with more of his Hibernian heroes.

“Tam McManus messaged me and said I could grab a pint with him whenever. With no football currently it’s difficult to do that but I’d love to take him up on his offer one day.

He was part of one of our best teams in recent years when all the young players broke through. We were the best team in Scotland outside the Old Firm and he was a cracking player.

Marvin Bartley called while he was still at Hibernian and he was a proper nice guy. We’ve kept in touch on social media although it’s a shame that he’s left the club now ” Peat, concluded.

Opening up and admitting you’re struggling with your mental health can be the most difficult part of the journey to recovery. People can be empowered by seeing their footballing heroes break the stigma of mental health. After all, it’s more than just a game.

Thanks for sharing that. Amazing the lengths that Libby went to provide amazing support.

[Hibernian Verse]

I started reading "The Happiness Trap" by Russ Harris this week and I'm finding it very useful a couple of chapters in.