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    First time speaking about this to any1 but my family but itís become clear that Iím struggling with Health Anxiety, Iím not sure how severe it is for me but I know I definitely have a problem with it and itís been like this for the past 6 months Iíd say. Iím not anxious about becoming ill with everyday illness Iím more concerned about any type of cancer and Iím scared for my future aswell. Iím convincing myself that any little change in is an early sign of it and Iím straight to my GP, I can tell they are becoming a little fed up of me but I canít help it. I would like to know if any1 can point me in the right direction of a good CBT therapist as I think this might be the way to go. Sorry if this post is bringing issues back up with others Iím just looking to get some help. Thanks in advance
    Whilst I can't help you re therapists, I don't think anyone will ever have to apologise for posting on this thread, good luck with getting the help you're looking for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Sauzee View Post
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    First time speaking about this to any1 but my family but itís become clear that Iím struggling with Health Anxiety, Iím not sure how severe it is for me but I know I definitely have a problem with it and itís been like this for the past 6 months Iíd say. Iím not anxious about becoming ill with everyday illness Iím more concerned about any type of cancer and Iím scared for my future aswell. Iím convincing myself that any little change in is an early sign of it and Iím straight to my GP, I can tell they are becoming a little fed up of me but I canít help it. I would like to know if any1 can point me in the right direction of a good CBT therapist as I think this might be the way to go. Sorry if this post is bringing issues back up with others Iím just looking to get some help. Thanks in advance
    Sorry to hear of your problems with anxiety. Anxiety can present itself as a number of different disorders such as Generalised Anxiety Disorder, Social Anxiety, Agorophobia and Panic Disorder etc. Sometimes they occur alongside other mental health disorders such as depression or personality disorder.

    Your GP is the normal gateway to talking therapies such as CBT. He can refer you to a therapist through the NHS, albeit there may be a waiting list. The service is called IAPT (Improving Access To Psychological Therapy). It can include treatment programmes of one-to-one therapy, counselling or group therapy. Formerly, IAPT was solely based on CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) but it now employs other types of therapies such as Humanistic Therapy, Psychodynamic and Integrative Therapy etc.

    It's a good idea to know a little about the different types of therapies and how they work/which might be most apt for you, so you could ask your GP about that. I wondered why you were focused on CBT? (Not that it's necessarily a bad idea). CBT has been largely used by the NHS arguably due to its relative cheapness to provide and it being measureable for results - not because it is 'better' for the job (nor is it necessarily 'worse'). This doesn't mean that it's inferior in any way as it's very good for some things, for example addiction, it is also used widely for depression and anxiety. Sometimes however, there is a need to explore more deeply into a disorder as opposed to what some deride it as - a 'sticking plaster' approach. The bottom line is that some people respond well to certain therapies while others need something different. Good luck.

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    It's interesting to note that amidst the furore and comment involving Neil Lennon and the coin throwing incident, I've seen no particular comment about Neil's mental health and a possible connection with his reaction in considering his future at Hibs. Perhaps pertinent on a wider basis for mental health is that his past problems are largely ignored or overlooked when trouble comes calling.

    I understand it's not up for public scrutiny and his dignity should be protected but it concerns me the great pressure he is constantly under - uniquely so in Scottish football. An emotional and mercurial man he undoubtedly is but I also wonder if he has been considering the pressure that comes with him working in Scotland for some time rather than what on the face of things might seem an emotional reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu in nottingham View Post
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    It's interesting to note that amidst the furore and comment involving Neil Lennon and the coin throwing incident, I've seen no particular comment about Neil's mental health and a possible connection with his reaction in considering his future at Hibs. Perhaps pertinent on a wider basis for mental health is that his past problems are largely ignored or overlooked when trouble comes calling.

    I understand it's not up for public scrutiny and his dignity should be protected but it concerns me the great pressure he is constantly under - uniquely so in Scottish football. An emotional and mercurial man he undoubtedly is but I also wonder if he has been considering the pressure that comes with him working in Scotland for some time rather than what on the face of things might seem an emotional reaction.
    What were the circumstances surrounding his departure from Celtic?

    I can't really remember, but I do recall becoming fed up of all the off-field nonsense played a part.

    It would be a desperately sad day for our nation and a real eye-opener for us all if the same were to happen to him with us.

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    I just can't climb out of the depths of depression I'm currently experiencing - no matter how hard I try to combat the onset of recurring episodes.

    This time of year, combined with fighting a 20 year ongoing eating disorder, and the perpetual bouts of depression associated, is taking its toll upon me both mentally and physically.

    I've exhausted what seems like every avenue available to me in terms of help, but without any discernable success, or improvement in my condition.

    I'm 39 in a few weeks time, and these illnesses have cost me family, friends, relationships, jobs and a career. Repeated attempts to manage my condition have been largely fruitless, and the overriding emotion (amongst a great many) is one of absolute exhaustion.

    It was only in the last few years that I divulged my struggles publicly, and whilst supported by a great many, the stigma that is still attached to these pernicious illnesses remains an almost daily experience.

    A case in point, was me commenting last week that I wasn't feeling great (due to the illnesses mentioned), only to be met with the following comment from a family member: "So how did you manage to go to the game on Wednesday then?"

    It may seem a harmless comment to many, but it's really had a profound effect upon me, and left me feeling even more depressed and vulnerable than I already was.

    I just don't know where to go from here in terms of help or recovery.
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    Firstly I'd like to say I'm fortunate enough not to have suffered from depression but have been directly involved with it in the past.

    I occasionally pop in here to read what's going on because it pleases me to think that those suffering have this thread for mutual support. I applaud all of you for talking openly about a subject that still carries stigma with it. Attitudes seem to be changing slowly and I put that down to people being brave enough to talk openly in public like a lot of you guys do on here.

    One thing that has struck me about those sharing their experiences on here is that everyone without exception, shows great communication skills and above average intelligence. It's got me thinking that maybe that is a factor that plays a role in this disease? It would interest me to hear some of your thoughts on that theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Firstly I'd like to say I'm fortunate enough not to have suffered from depression but have been directly involved with it in the past.

    I occasionally pop in here to read what's going on because it pleases me to think that those suffering have this thread for mutual support. I applaud all of you for talking openly about a subject that still carries stigma with it. Attitudes seem to be changing slowly and I put that down to people being brave enough to talk openly in public like a lot of you guys do on here.

    One thing that has struck me about those sharing their experiences on here is that everyone without exception, shows great communication skills and above average intelligence. It's got me thinking that maybe that is a factor that plays a role in this disease? It would interest me to hear some of your thoughts on that theory.
    I'm not sure that those factors play any part. Depression and anxiety tend not to discriminate along those lines.

    I'd suggest, though, that those who post here are confident in their ability to communicate, and feel secure enough to do so. But I'd also expect that there are many others, with similar experiences, who don't post because they feel they "can't" or "shouldn't". This thread is, of course, as much for them as it is for those who do post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Firstly I'd like to say I'm fortunate enough not to have suffered from depression but have been directly involved with it in the past.

    I occasionally pop in here to read what's going on because it pleases me to think that those suffering have this thread for mutual support. I applaud all of you for talking openly about a subject that still carries stigma with it. Attitudes seem to be changing slowly and I put that down to people being brave enough to talk openly in public like a lot of you guys do on here.

    One thing that has struck me about those sharing their experiences on here is that everyone without exception, shows great communication skills and above average intelligence. It's got me thinking that maybe that is a factor that plays a role in this disease? It would interest me to hear some of your thoughts on that theory.
    I completed a first aid course in mental health last week, giving me some insights into depression and anxiety that I didn't have before and I certainly feel I learned at lot at helping people who are in absolute crisis.

    I absolutely do think people of a higher intelligence are more prone to bouts of depression and anxiety - I work in Higher Education as a lecturer at both a Scottish and American university and I encounter a substantial amount of people that suffer from depression or anxiety - part of that is the pressure of the environment, part of that is the type of person that's attracted to advanced study or a career in such a sector. The pressure is phenomenal, but those that I've encountered who I would put into your category of "above average intelligence" definitely over-analyse, self-critique and replay situations (especially negative ones), and it often reinforces an already installed idea of low personal worth.

    However, it really can impact people of all education levels or backgrounds - I just wonder if perhaps those who fit your category are better placed to rationalise the problem and use their voice and experience to try and break the cycle for others?

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    Its anxiety that kicks my ass, I wake up at 3 or 4 then have a full on panic attack. I have now started to get out of bed and do something but it is exhausting. I describe it like the Dr Who intro years ago, so much stuff coming at me. The following depression is horrible but I can manage it better then the panic attacks

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