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    Quote Originally Posted by wpj View Post
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    A quick look on the internet suggests apart from Holland & Barrett it's quite expensive.
    Sorry to hijack the thread about a very worthwhile discussion point about an issue which clearly affects many posters here, but Iím confused by the legalities of CBD oil, particularly around the current story of the wee boy with epilepsy and his motherís efforts to get CBD oil for him being thwarted by the authorities.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44504142

    The discussion on here, everything Iíve read, and the fact Holland and Barrett and other shops sell the stuff suggests itís legal here. So whatís the issue surrounding this lad and his mother?

    Is it a different type of oil? Is it some sort of high strength variant? Is there an age limit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    Sorry to hijack the thread about a very worthwhile discussion point about an issue which clearly affects many posters here, but Iím confused by the legalities of CBD oil, particularly around the current story of the wee boy with epilepsy and his motherís efforts to get CBD oil for him being thwarted by the authorities.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44504142

    The discussion on here, everything Iíve read, and the fact Holland and Barrett and other shops sell the stuff suggests itís legal here. So whatís the issue surrounding this lad and his mother?

    Is it a different type of oil? Is it some sort of high strength variant? Is there an age limit?
    It's the THC component that is illegal here.

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    A few year ago now I got addicted to tramadol and 30mg cocodamal on prescription after a operation, went through a spell off thinking everbody was looking and talking about me, also hated going to work after operation recovery but still taking tablets.got to the point 8am on a Monday and could not wait till 3pm on a Friday, then dreaded going back on a Monday. Happy to say better days now though after some counciling and advice keep myself busy playing golf,darts and getting out and about, also talking to people I trust about it, I can't speak openly about it to other people I know yet and thats been about 4 years

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    A few year ago now I got addicted to tramadol and 30mg cocodamal on prescription after a operation, went through a spell off thinking everbody was looking and talking about me, also hated going to work after operation recovery but still taking tablets.got to the point 8am on a Monday and could not wait till 3pm on a Friday, then dreaded going back on a Monday. Happy to say better days now though after some counciling and advice keep myself busy playing golf,darts and getting out and about, also talking to people I trust about it, I can't speak openly about it to other people I know yet and thats been about 4 years
    That's really interesting about the Co-codamol. It sounds like you've been through a lot and I hope things are getting better and moving, at least, in the right direction for you. I take a lot of Co-codamol for migraines (which come with their own depressive issues). The feeling of being 'off' them was indescribable, I was so much more 'level' in how I mentally spoke to myself. A few migraines, a few painkillers in and it all goes to mush again. I know they can be addictive and I know they come with a whole load of issues, but it's never really that easy is it.
    Hope things get better for you quickly LF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It's the THC component that is illegal here.

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    Are you still taking it and is it working if you are?

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    Has anyone whoís come off anti-depressants found themselves going through slight manic phases? Iíve been off them a couple of months but still getting irrationally angry at stupid things, but also having really hyper/positive/manic periods. A little bit worrying but thereís no depression so not sure if I should just stick with it.


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    Has anyone whoís come off anti-depressants found themselves going through slight manic phases? Iíve been off them a couple of months but still getting irrationally angry at stupid things, but also having really hyper/positive/manic periods. A little bit worrying but thereís no depression so not sure if I should just stick with it.
    I'm afraid I've no real help here, but I did come off Amitriptyline after a year of using them to stop migraines. Certainly think about these questions - How quickly did you come off them? Did a doctor or a pharmacist tell you what the side-effects would be? Are you on any other medication? Maybe keep a dot-journal to record triggers/reactions and severity of reactions.

    Hope it goes well for you.

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    Iíve just started on Duloxetine as another attempt to relieve my tension.

    Halfway through week 2 and itís been tough with a much lower mood, tiredness but the worst is Iím sweating more than Rafa Nadal was yesterday!

    Not sure these drugs are for me.

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    I'm currently on citalopram.works for me.anxiety is horrible.best wishes to everyone on here fighting it.

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    Hi SR. I have a similar issue although not always about when coming off medication. The doctor suggested that I may suffer from Cyclothymia. Hope the link below works. It might be worth reading up on.

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cyclothymia/


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    Has anyone who’s come off anti-depressants found themselves going through slight manic phases? I’ve been off them a couple of months but still getting irrationally angry at stupid things, but also having really hyper/positive/manic periods. A little bit worrying but there’s no depression so not sure if I should just stick with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heidtheba View Post
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    I'm afraid I've no real help here, but I did come off Amitriptyline after a year of using them to stop migraines. Certainly think about these questions - How quickly did you come off them? Did a doctor or a pharmacist tell you what the side-effects would be? Are you on any other medication? Maybe keep a dot-journal to record triggers/reactions and severity of reactions.

    Hope it goes well for you.
    Thanks for the well wishes.

    My doctor thought it was time I came off so I tapered down. Was initially on 30, so tapered down slowly to 5mg every 2 days then came straight off.

    Definitely helped with the physical withdrawal symptoms as they were very mild, but itís just my head is a bit iffy. I think keeping a journal may help, especially if I rate the severity of my moods.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    Hi SR. I have a similar issue although not always about when coming off medication. The doctor suggested that I may suffer from Cyclothymia. Hope the link below works. It might be worth reading up on.

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cyclothymia/
    Yeah, my thought was that it could ether be a withdrawal symptom, or symptoms that my medication may have been keeping at bay. Itís hard to explain, but the manic/happy phases almost feel like chemical highs, like theyíre not Ďrealí. I might just be thinking too much into things though.

    Will maybe discuss with my GP the next time Iím in.


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    Think Iím in one of those phases where I canít shake the feeling of being low but I have no idea whatís causing it.

    Not been as active (ie walking) as much in recent weeks. Also let my emails build up from 1 unread to 16. In them is nothing to worry about and Iím a stickler for a to do list but just now feel for anything I do I need to do another two things after it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRHibs View Post
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    Has anyone whoís come off anti-depressants found themselves going through slight manic phases? Iíve been off them a couple of months but still getting irrationally angry at stupid things, but also having really hyper/positive/manic periods. A little bit worrying but thereís no depression so not sure if I should just stick with it.
    This has been happening to me as well... did you ever find a way to control it mate?

    Reluctant to take the meds again due to certain side effects but can't say my overall mood has improved

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    Quote Originally Posted by LustForLeith View Post
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    Think Iím in one of those phases where I canít shake the feeling of being low but I have no idea whatís causing it.

    Not been as active (ie walking) as much in recent weeks. Also let my emails build up from 1 unread to 16. In them is nothing to worry about and Iím a stickler for a to do list but just now feel for anything I do I need to do another two things after it
    Also in a similar position as yourself. I used to do a bit mountain biking but lately I've just had no energy or desire to get out and do it. It's like survival mode to get through the working day and home

    I know to an extent what is contributing to it but trying to get in to another mindset or way of thinking is difficult.

    I've got an app called headspace which i use occasionally but can't say it's worked a treat. Has anyone else had better joy with it?

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    Also in a similar position as yourself. I used to do a bit mountain biking but lately I've just had no energy or desire to get out and do it. It's like survival mode to get through the working day and home

    I know to an extent what is contributing to it but trying to get in to another mindset or way of thinking is difficult.

    I've got an app called headspace which i use occasionally but can't say it's worked a treat. Has anyone else had better joy with it?
    Didnít have much joy myself tended just to switch off listening to it or thinking about how I felt more.

    I find listening to music much better really lifts my mood and a great distraction.

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    I have a friend ive known for eight years. Our kids have been in the same class since nursery. He's always been the bloke I immediately have a lot in common with, and have a chat every day in the playground. Last year out of the blue he told me was signed off sick with stress, and he said he didnt really understand what his purpose in life was anymore. I offered him some paid work with me to get him back into the workplace on a gradual basis and in a relaxed environment. I also told him about my similar experiences in the past, how he must get some good meds if he felt like they helped, and explore as many solutions as possible. Getting a good counsellor. Lots of exercise. relaxation. Social contact. Sleep. All that good stuff.

    I genuinely enjoyed his company, we went for a pint in the Spring where we argued long and hard about the rights and wrongs of Morrissey and the Smiths, and although he didnt get signed back to work, he said he had a good counsellor and was getting somewhere with her. I saw him in the playground at the end of school term in June, and we said we need to definitely get together with our respective missuses for a pint or something to eat soon. I found out last week that he killed himself over the holidays. Ive just seen his wife, whose appearance has changed in a major way. His two kids have gone back to school without a dad. Noone knows what to do or say.


    Im absolutely not posting this as a request for sympathy, or for a general chat about the sadness of the situation. I just want to make a plea that if anyone reading this thread, which i know has become a bit of a self help community in some ways, is feeling like theyve slipped off the edge, or is starting to feel suicidal thoughts, please contact someone. If you're in that position you are bound to feel like no-one cares, thats wrong. Lots of people will care about you, even if you dont realise it. Mental health services are underresourced, yes, but there will be people who will be available to help you. Speak to your GP. Get a referral to a professional. And above all, open up to someone. Just talk. **** it, you can PM me for a chat if you want , although my wisdom will be limited. Almost everyone now understands that mental health issues are no reason to fear you or stigmatise you. People will be sympathetic and want to help. Please dont leave it too late.

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