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    So the drugs do work, apparently.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43143889

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    So the drugs do work, apparently.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43143889

    Hibs.net survey?
    Iíve just gone back on amitriptyline. Even though I donít feel particularly stressed or anxious I canít seem to disengage my brain if anything Iím anxious about being anxious.

    Iíve used it before with no major issues in a low dose hoping it will help me relax a bit as my muscles are aching and Iíve been waking up at times with clenched fists even my tongue feels tense!

    Good I see it supposed to be one of the better ones!

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    My particular grouch with this survey is that there is a very narrow question being set, ie "do they ease depression?".

    Other questions which need to be addressed are:-

    To what extent do the side-effects affect one's life? (in my case, increased cholesterol made it a risk not worth taking)

    To what extent are other, non-pharmacological, treatments more or less successful?

    That said, the fact that the media has been full of this survey this morning is very welcome. People feeling comfortable enough (as on here) to tell their stories can only be a good thing. Moan the nutters....

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    I was quite surprised to hear a Professor on the radio this morning say something like, 'that's it, we can now close the book on whether anti-depressant medication is effective'.

    Defer to this gent's knowledge but for me that is not how science and research works. It's only a part of the body of knowledge on the subject and not definitive forever and ever. Knowledge becomes challenged, and discredited all the time.

    My initial thoughts are that I'm a bit concerned that people will buy into what, in fairness on the exterior, looks like a convincing piece of research and see that as the easy answer. It is never as simple as that, much though we would like it to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu in nottingham View Post
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    I was quite surprised to hear a Professor on the radio this morning say something like, 'that's it, we can now close the book on whether anti-depressant medication is effective'.

    Defer to this gent's knowledge but for me that is not how science and research works. It's only a part of the body of knowledge on the subject and not definitive forever and ever. Knowledge becomes challenged, and discredited all the time.

    My initial thoughts are that I'm a bit concerned that people will buy into what, in fairness on the exterior, looks like a convincing piece of research and see that as the easy answer. It is never as simple as that, much though we would like it to be.
    There's the odd publication out there that "debunks" climate change. Point being, big declarations and standpoints require on pretty much universal consensus, and one piece of research merely contributes to part of a wider chain of evidence, oftentimes being proven to be nonsense, or hugely flawed.

    If he's genuinely suggesting one test closes the book on a debate, he should be stripped of his professorship and seriously challenged by his peers, and employers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
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    There's the odd publication out there that "debunks" climate change. Point being, big declarations and standpoints require on pretty much universal consensus, and one piece of research merely contributes to part of a wider chain of evidence, oftentimes being proven to be nonsense, or hugely flawed.
    Yes indeed - exactly my point. That was why I was slightly taken back at his words.
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