Petrie's role in newco discussions (merged)

[grunt]

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If Rod were to go, who would we have as Chairman?

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Someone else. Preferably untainted by recent shenanigans. RP is not the only human being in the world who could run Hibs.

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What, is there nobody else in the world that could do it?

It was just a question.

[joe breezy]

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We know nothing for certain other than some Press allegations. The same Press that we have been criticising for the duration of this thread. I find the hysteria on the last few pages to be quite embarrassing. To be attacking our own on the basis of so little evidence is quite disgraceful.

RP was the only person to state that sporting integrity must come before financial matters long before them fans revolt and the impact on the sale of STs wad apparent. We should cut him some slack until more emerges.

In any case, Sevco are f***ed and I can't see any form of Rangers playing in any League next season.

I see what you're saying but that document was so bad that whoever was involved needs to resign immediately

It's a huge matter and needs addressed urgently

[DiscoLovinHibee]

I voted Yes as him leaving his post is what we need, but in reality resignation should have been handed in after the Calderwood farce.

If it turns out (and it looks like its true) he was involved in this disgusting statement then he should not resign he should be fired as he is no longer fit enough to be in such an important position at OUR club.

[The Green Goblin]

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It was just a question.

I wasn't having a go, just trying to suggest a (general) answer.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

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I've been away for a couple of days....Stone Roses .... so I'm catching up on what's been happening.

Do we know that for certain?

It would appear that Rod is not The Resurrection

[1875godsgift]

If I was Rod in his official position within the SFA, bearing in mind Regan is "on holiday", and Doncaster, Green and probably Ogilvie approached me with their latest cunning plan I'd be there going
" Aye that's a brilliant ploy boys, you're dangling a very small carrot behind a thinly veiled threat. That'll get everybody on your side! "
Meanwhile laughing behind my tache knowing that they'd really f****d things up this time ( again ).

[basehibby]

Have had a better look at the reports and was maybe a bit hasty in giving Rod my backing over this one - the notion of a closed shop SPL2 and it's use as a thinly veiled threat is bang out of order. I'm not against reconstruction for the good of the game as a whole but not just for the benefit of newco huns fc.

Any new set up would have to have an avenue for better teams to gain promotion to it or it would be a non-starter for me and the notion of blocking out teams like Raith Rovers and Falkirk out of spite is just plain evil!

[alexedwards]

Are there seriously folk out there who believe the SFA Vice President was not aware of the contents of this document?

[Part/Time Supporter]

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Are there seriously folk out there who believe the SFA Vice President was not aware of the contents of this document?

No, but this is the SFA we are talking about.

[green glory]

I'm prepared to give the mousered one the benefit of the doubt.

If one chairman has been in touch with the fans throughout this whole affair it's been Petrie. I'm willing to bet he knew very well these proposals were doomed to failure, as was willing to go along with them in the full knowledge they'd get the reaction they have.

If this is the case he's played a blinder. If not he's seriously misjudged the depth of feeling.

He's the architect of the 'sporting integrity' stance, and I think we should remember that before calling for his moustachioed head.

[FitbaFolkKen]

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It would appear that Rod is not The Resurrection

But has he been chasing fools gold?.......oh dear!

[Sunny1875]

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I know however, this is the problem with having so many different bodies involved in such a simple game...SPL have said to Newco playing in the top tier, they can apply to the SFL and it is upto them to decided where they play - SPL clubs don't have a say.


That is why this is a great opportunity for fans of the Scottish game to unite and push for complete reconstruction where one body oversees everything and yes this involves Rangers playing in the lower division (their financial clout in the whole Scottish game from youth to pro is too strong for them not to be involved) think about it even if it was just their diehards that went to watch them play in the 3rd division they would still have more season ticket holders than Hibs and the rest of the SPL bar Celtic and Hearts.

Time for complete change forget about this 4 divisions, x amount of different bodies rubbish

Would that be the Glory hunting successful club diehards, or the pre Sounness and Murray 6K to 8K that turned up once a fortnight at Ipox

[Seveno]

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I'm prepared to give the mousered one the benefit of the doubt.

If one chairman has been in touch with the fans throughout this whole affair it's been Petrie. I'm willing to bet he knew very well these proposals were doomed to failure, as was willing to go along with them in the full knowledge they'd get the reaction they have.

If this is the case he's played a blinder. If not he's seriously misjudged the depth of feeling.

He's the architect of the 'sporting integrity' stance, and I think we should remember that before calling for his moustachioed head.

Not so far fetched. We are, afterall, talking about the Harry Potter of negotiations. The man that signed James McPake for nought.

[keithkeith]

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Not so far fetched. We are, afterall, talking about the Harry Potter of negotiations. The man that signed James McPake for nought.

Agree

[Captain Trips]

RP if not sooner should have resigned 1 minute after sacking CC, I doubt then he will ever resign.

[Bad Martini]

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But has he been chasing fools gold?.......oh dear!

Bye bye badman?

[ginger_rice]

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But has he been chasing fools gold?.......oh dear!

No but this is the one he's been waiting for.

[Phil MaGlass]

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Not so far fetched. We are, afterall, talking about the Harry Potter of negotiations. The man that signed James McPake for nought.

He may well have signed him for nowt but whats in it for his former club when he is sold next summer for a couple of millions.
On the Petrie document subject, he may have had no choice but to release the document on behalf of others.

[Caversham Green]

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Are there seriously folk out there who believe the SFA Vice President was not aware of the contents of this document?

It's distinctly possible that he was aware of it but did not approve of it. If it was produced by a committee of which he was a member and he was outvoted on it there's little he could do (other than possibly resign from the committee) and probably isn't in a position to say much either as things currently stand.

If he approved it then he has no place on the Hibs board IMO, but I think there will be more to come out on that document yet.

[Lungo--Drom]

From a close study of his tache it could be suggested that he was indeed meant to be the Second Coming...
...in a bad 1970s Swedish porn film, but then he got celestially beamed down to the wrong country and in the wrong decade and became a merchant banker instead.

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It would appear that Rod is not The Resurrection

[The Modfather]

So, did we ever find out what Petrie's role in "that" document was? Or has he, unfortunately, survived another close shave?

[Joe Baker II]

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Would that be the Glory hunting successful club diehards, or the pre Sounness and Murray 6K to 8K that turned up once a fortnight at Ipox

Rangers average crowd I think you will find was around 27000 the season before Souness arrived.

[JimBHibees]

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Rangers average crowd I think you will find was around 27000 the season before Souness arrived.

http://www.fitbastats.com/rangers/cl...attendance.php

25119 still vastly reduced from what they commonly get now.

[Joe Baker II]

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http://www.fitbastats.com/rangers/cl...attendance.php

25119 still vastly reduced from what they commonly get now.

Realise you will not believe me but 27k was a typo, I had meant to say 25k though I had not checked stats!

But think this still suggests Rangers will have significantly more ST holders than we will in Division 4 which was original point being made.

[JimBHibees]

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Realise you will not believe me but 27k was a typo, I had meant to say 25k though I had not checked stats!

But think this still suggests Rangers will have significantly more ST holders than we will in Division 4 which was original point being made.

Of course they will however I think the real crowds will be much less than season ticket sales. It will be interesting to see how much newco reduces the cost to the fans if they do indeed play in Division 3 or wherever.

[Andy74]

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So, did we ever find out what Petrie's role in "that" document was? Or has he, unfortunately, survived another close shave?

It looks like an SFA led proposal which Rod will unfortunately have to be part of as a Vice President and Chair of the Professional Board.

That does not mean he persoanlly agrees with it and there;s no indication he has dreamed it up or led it.

You have to take at face value the very public comments he has made on this subject which the club he chairs has carried through.

[Saorsa]

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It looks like an SFA led proposal which Rod will unfortunately have to be part of as a Vice President and Chair of the Professional Board.

That does not mean he persoanlly agrees with it and there;s no indication he has dreamed it up or led it.

You have to take at face value the very public comments he has made on this subject which the club he chairs has carried through.

You maybe have to, I dinnae and neither does anybody else.

He cannae claim sporting integrity with Hibs and then be part of an organisation responsible for that disgraceful 'piece of work' full of bribery an threats, whether he agrees with it or not. The two are totally incompatible IMO. How can he claim to be in favour of integrity and then be involved in those devious and underhanded tactics. Anybody who was party tae that document circulated tae the SFL clubs is little better than regan or doncaster as far as I'm concerned.

[marinello59]

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You maybe have to, I dinnae and neither does anybody else.

He cannae claim sporting integrity with Hibs and then be part of an organisation responsible for that disgraceful 'piece of work' full of bribery an threats, whether he agrees with it or not. The two are totally incompatible IMO. How can he claim to be in favour of integrity and then be involved in those devious and underhanded tactics. Anybody who was party tae that document circulated tae the SFL clubs is little better than regan or doncaster as far as I'm concerned.

I hope for your sake that Petrie is guilty here because you are obviously going to be gutted if he isn't.

[Saorsa]

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I hope for your sake that Petrie is guilty here because you are obviously going to be gutted if he isn't.

Why would I be gutted? If he's no involved, he's no involved, let him come out and say it. I fail tae see how anyone in his position at the SFA could fail tae have known about it. If he's as much in favour of integrity as he claims tae be he surely cannae square that with being part of an organision that's as bent as a nine bob note. People in the SFA and SPL knew about that document, they were either involved in it or at best they gave it their tacit approval by remaining silent about it.

Naebody has denied being involved with that document and naebody has criticised that document, IMO that makes them all equally worthy of suspicion and that includes Petrie.

[Beefster]

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It looks like an SFA led proposal which Rod will unfortunately have to be part of as a Vice President and Chair of the Professional Board.

That does not mean he persoanlly agrees with it and there;s no indication he has dreamed it up or led it.

You have to take at face value the very public comments he has made on this subject which the club he chairs has carried through.

If Rodders is a Vice-Chairman in an organisation that has threatened and attempted to blackmail the majority of its members and he disagrees with that course of action, I'd expect him to resign from the post. If he doesn't, I'd assume that he doesn't have much problem with it.

It's fine to stick around when you disagree with a run of the mill decision but when the organisation is taking immoral and unethical action, it's a different matter.