How do we fill a £250k hole?

[cocopops1875]

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Ok we will have brought new or lapsed season ticket holders who were wanting to secureva cup final ticket. Perhaps some season ticket holders are waiting to see what encouragement they get from the
tranfer market?

we are down on season tickets so regardless of how many we brought back we have lost more. Transfer budget relates to ST sales so if we wait to see who we bring in before committing to a ST we are unlikely to be impressed by the quality of signing

[gegs70]

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What about it ? Please tell me you don't believe that we did ok financially due to a cup run ? At best its plugged what may have been a massive hole

I agree saved us from a massive loss...
would have been better financially had we won ....

I thought we would have increased season tickets due to the way we sold cup final tickets.....but prev poster have corrected me? We need to be a little slicker with the way we use our youth academy they need more 1st team game time working with better older experienced professionals to help them become better players.

[keep the faith]

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25,000 of us donate a tenner = easy

Yep. i would do this.

[gegs70]

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we are down on season tickets so regardless of how many we brought back we have lost more. Transfer budget relates to ST sales so if we wait to see who we bring in before committing to a ST we are unlikely to be impressed by the quality of signing

So bottom line is we are down on season tickets....and we are unlikely to encourage anymore sales of season tickets. People will pick and choose games but if product aint there attendance will drop...if results and product is good you may see an increase on half season tickets? I suppose we cant blame fans for feeling that way....its been 1 disappointment after another no one will pay 20+ quid for rubbish. "If you want entertainment...go to the pictures - source Bobby Williamson"

[gegs70]

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Yep. i would do this.

me too...

[StevieC]

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It's easy everyone buy a pie every home game job done!!! :-D

Pie money goes to the catering company.

[scoopyboy]

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Put a decent team on the pitch. You can't expect fans to make up the £250k hole and still watch the same level of rubbish that we've had to put up with for the last couple of years.

Agree 100%.

Getting to either the semi of League Cup or Scottish Cup would cover it easily.

Easiest way to get Hibs fans through the turnstiles is put a team on the pitch.

[StevieC]

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Is there not a pile of people who were ready to buy season tickets if Rangers were chucked out?

I made a decision (well before the cup final) that, for the first time in 12 years, I wouldn't be renewing this year.

The Rangers situation was either going to enforce that decision or spur me into changing my mind.

If Newco are in Division 3 (or not playing football at all) then my faith in Scottish football may well be restored enough for me to do a u-turn on my decision.

[matty_f]

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25,000 of us donate a tenner = easy

Dunno if you were being serious, but would people consider contributing into a fund set up specifically to fund the difference? I don't see how this couldn't be done, and it would be fairly low cost to do.

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617 adult season tickets.

Without a doubt. We need more fans to support the club financially through season ticket purchases. The £250k void is filled quickly if people buy season tickets.

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after cup final donation?

What cup final donation?

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It's been suggested on another thread to make the two Club 12 home games a "No to Newco" day.

All supporters pitch in and try and get friends, family, lapsed supporters along for these games. Season ticket holders, that can afford it, pay at the gate.

With the right amount of committment, and if it's promoted well, an extra 6-7,000 paying customers at these games would make up that £250k shortfall.

This is a great idea as well. Fantastic.

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Put a decent team on the pitch. You can't expect fans to make up the £250k hole and still watch the same level of rubbish that we've had to put up with for the last couple of years.

I guess it's much harder to get a decent team on the pitch when you're £250k down on a financial year that brought about a £800k loss...

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As much as the poor football has irked me over the last few years, this episode is beyond the team on the park. I feel we have to put aside what we've had to watch and try and concentrate on the problem in hand, and how we as a club can help support our board in their efforts to ensure that we move in the right direction .. without crippling the club.

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A simple donation and in return you get a Hibs tee-shirt with printed on the front .... "I happily paid £XXX to get rid of Rangers. And it was worth every penny"

Would suspect this would need to be a supporter-led initiative, but something like that could work. Maybe needs a more catchy slogan though!

[Hibbyradge]

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Is there not a pile of people who were ready to buy season tickets if Rangers were chucked out?

I've not read anyone say that.

I have consistently said that I will buy a season ticket if Newco start again in Division 3.

If there's a fudge, I'll give up.

[down-the-slope]

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It's been suggested on another thread to make the two Club 12 home games a "No to Newco" day.

All supporters pitch in and try and get friends, family, lapsed supporters along for these games. Season ticket holders, that can afford it, pay at the gate.

With the right amount of committment, and if it's promoted well, an extra 6-7,000 paying customers at these games would make up that £250k shortfall.

I like a party Good day for Dnipro bucket collection as well

If Club 12 ends up being Dundee they will bring 1500-2500 the short trip down particularly if we make it cheaper for them too (free kid with adult is way to go rather than just cheap adults)

[Andy74]

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I've not read anyone say that.

I have consistently said that I will buy a season ticket if Newco start again in Division 3.

If there's a fudge, I'll give up.

I've read several people say it yet the circumstance seem to change.

Hibs play in the SPL not the SFL. Why would whatever decision the SFL make now have any effect on what you do?

[Gatecrasher]

So as a STH who has already renewed and buying both tops, what do you suggest I do? Perhaps a help our club PayPal fund?

[deano88]

I'm not convinced we would be £250k down...unless it's taking into account the people that won't come back if they are voted in to the SPL?

[Russian Hibs]

It is quite simple reduce costs and increase revenues,,,however, if it was that simple then all clubs would be in profit.

Football is an emotive game that drives the income, without spending on the product then the income drops as does the entertainment. There is virtually no other business like it.

There are many ways to increase income as reducing costs will be difficult.

Hibs have always been innovators, we now need to start clever planning and quick income streams.

We can all sit back and say we need a better product before we invest but the reality is if we don't invest our money and time to HIbs we will rely on luck of producing talent to sell on and that might not happen for a very long time.

A successful team will generate cash,,,and we need to invest. However, rod won't get such an easy ride next time when supporters will want money ring fenced for the team so the product on the pitch will be what we are looking for.

2012 will be a time for change and hopefully we will have a strategy to protect the club for many years to come!

[Russian Hibs]

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I've read several people say it yet the circumstance seem to change.

Hibs play in the SPL not the SFL. Why would whatever decision the SFL make now have any effect on what you do?

[Andy74]

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So as a STH who has already renewed and buying both tops, what do you suggest I do? Perhaps a help our club PayPal fund?

Nothing wrong with the suggestion but I doubt enough would follow through for it to be worth it. it's also not sustainable income.

It's those that don't renew, pay at gate or buy merchandise currently who are the key. We need more of them to come back.

Accepting of course that on the pitch we haven't given them any encouragement recently. We do need people to try and draw a line under that though and try and encourage the future to be better. We can only do that by being able give the manager the cash to bring players in to make a difference. We can't do that though if everyone sits back and waits for it to happen without being part of it.

There's an opportunity here to be a key part of a more competitive league and cup set up At least other than first place in the SPL.

[johnrebus]

So, who said we are down on season tickets?

The club?

Someone who works in the club?

The jannie?

[gegs70]

encourage other teams fans to turn up to fill the away end. More Hibs kids days or family fun days? Just a suggestion? A bbq and beer tent gala day....

[matty_f]

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So, who said we are down on season tickets?

The club?

Someone who works in the club?

The jannie?

Scott Lindsay.

[leither#1]

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Pray that Wolves sell Fletcher on for at least £5 million.

Did we not get a slice of the transfer from burnley to wolves? Don't think we are due any more

[bernz]

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We have not gained more STs from the Cup Final than we have lost/not renewed - source: Scott Lindsay.

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So, who said we are down on season tickets?

The club?

Someone who works in the club?

The jannie?

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[Jack]

617 season tickets to make up the difference but its already been made known we’re 2,000 down

One of the guys on the fundraising bit of the supporters groups has come up with a great idea that I think would make up some of the shortfall, I hope it works. It will give all fans of the Club at home, far away and even further away, even the furthest away to contribute to the Club.

I thought I had thought about it but he's thought about it first

Anyway, get a decent squad together; get a decent string of results together and the support will return. We have only had one decent cup run in the last 5 years so doing well in the cup with our cup expert manager would also help.

Come on Pat, you're the man

[gegs70]

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Did we not get a slice of the transfer from burnley to wolves? Don't think we are due any more

Nope wont be due anything from fletcher moving anywhere but due something from bamba sale if EEN article was correct?

[StevieC]

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Hibs play in the SPL not the SFL. Why would whatever decision the SFL make now have any effect on what you do?

That depends on how the SFL reach their decision.

There is talk at the moment of the SPL offering them sweeteners if they let them into the 1st Division. If that happens that it is very much an SPL led cop-out, and as such the SPL teams that initiated it would have to face the fan backlash.

[johnrebus]

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Scott Lindsay.

Blooming heck, never saw this.


If this is true and we are 2000 season tickets down on the back of the cup final euphoria then that is bad.

Very bad.

[green glory]

Is this 2000 down on last season? I thought we'd sold a lot more ST's than last season because of the final. I certainly know a few who haven't renewed for a couple of seasons until the final. There should be plenty first-timers too I would have thought.

[Andy74]

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Is this 2000 down on last season? I thought we'd sold a lot more ST's than last season because of the final. I certainly know a few who haven't renewed for a couple of seasons until the final. There should be plenty first-timers too I would have thought.

We evidently had more who didn't renew than those who bought one at the time of final tickets being offered.

[gegs70]

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Blooming heck, never saw this.


If this is true and we are 2000 season tickets down on the back of the cup final euphoria then that is bad.

Very bad.

yes agree....i was in the shop a few times renewing season tickets and a lot if people were in signing up for season tickets not renewing. So I tjought would have a positive turn out if we are down on season tickets that is disastrous....

[StevieC]

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Is this 2000 down on last season? I thought we'd sold a lot more ST's than last season because of the final. I certainly know a few who haven't renewed for a couple of seasons until the final. There should be plenty first-timers too I would have thought.

I was told that new season ticket sales for the purposes of a cup final ticket were not as high as many might have thought.
On the back of 2-3 really poor years, a poor cup final performance and the Rangers situation it's hardly surprising that many did not renew. I get the impression that this may have been as high as 3-4k not renewing.