Ian Black

[TamHibs]

If Black was booked against St Johnstone & Celtic, shouldn't he be suspended for the final?

[bingo70]

No, would need to be sent off for violent conduct in the last game of the season.

Hope we don't build him up to be someone he's not before the final, last few derbies we've given him far too much respect, I'm not talking about someone clattering him early doors, I think he quite enjoys that and takes confidence from it, if we put someone on top of him and stop him playing he'll find that far more frustrating but imo we've played into his hands far too much recently

[Ferryhibby]

heard today from a couple o jambos he was suspended for final

[Hibernia Na Eir]

He's a cross-eyed junkie.

[TamHibs]

Sorry should have clarified. I meant he was booked against St Johnstone in the 3rd Round & then again against Celtic in the semi.

[TamHibs]

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He's a cross-eyed junkie.

That's a given ;)

[JimBHibees]

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Sorry should have clarified. I meant he was booked against St Johnstone in the 3rd Round & then again against Celtic in the semi.

No he missed the St Johnstone replay as he had been booked in a previous round. He is ok for the final.

[TamHibs]

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No he missed the St Johnstone replay as he had been booked in a previous round. He is ok for the final.

He wasn't booked against Auchinleck.

[bruno]

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He wasn't booked against Auchinleck.

Yes he was booked against auchinleck. As previously mentioned he has already served a suspension and will be ok for final.

[TamHibs]

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Yes he was booked against auchinleck. As previously mentioned he has already served a suspension and will be ok for final.

Yeah went & checked the preview of the replay against ST J, BBC site didn't have him down for a booking against Auchinleck. I can now clarify for a mate 100% ;)

[Hibercelona]

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Yes he was booked against auchinleck. As previously mentioned he has already served a suspension and will be ok for final.

Doesn't say on the beeb that he was booked against them.

[TamHibs]

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Doesn't say on the beeb that he was booked against them.

BBC are useless barstewards ;)

[bruno]

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Doesn't say on the beeb that he was booked against them.

Take it from someone who was at the game he was booked. I'm happy that barring injuries both teams can play their strongest teams. I would grant an amnesty for the final each year so unless someone gets sent off in semi then then bookings should not be carried forward. Far better spectacle with best 22 players on pitch

[lyonhibs]

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Take it from someone who was at the game he was booked. I'm happy that barring injuries both teams can play their strongest teams. I would grant an amnesty for the final each year so unless someone gets sent off in semi then then bookings should not be carried forward. Far better spectacle with best 22 players on pitch

Couldn't agree more.

Except for Hearts, and especially except for Ian Black that is

[bruno]

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Couldn't agree more.

Except for Hearts, and especially except for Ian Black that is

Ok and i'll raise you mcpake. Fair swap most important player for each team. Which team would benefit most

[Hibercelona]

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Take it from someone who was at the game he was booked. I'm happy that barring injuries both teams can play their strongest teams. I would grant an amnesty for the final each year so unless someone gets sent off in semi then then bookings should not be carried forward. Far better spectacle with best 22 players on pitch

It's easy to see things that way when you know your teams main 11 looks better on paper than the oppositions.

[Prof. Shaggy]

I'm not understanding this.
I've checked the BBC, ESPN Soccernet, Sky Sports and the Guardian and none of them have Black down as being booked against Auchinleck.
Surely they can't all be wrong?

[bruno]

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I'm not understanding this.
I've checked the BBC, ESPN Soccernet, Sky Sports and the Guardian and none of them have Black down as being booked against Auchinleck.
Surely they can't all be wrong?

Well obviously they are. I was there and he was definitely booked. Among many others that day

[bruno]

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It's easy to see things that way when you know your teams main 11 looks better on paper than the oppositions.

but games not played on paper otherwise Celtic would be in final not us

[Reaper]

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but games not played on paper otherwise Celtic would be in final not us

Thank the lord. It's bad enough folk moaning about getting a ticket as it is, imagine if it was an allocation of 4 tickets per team all trying to huddle around a bit o paper????

[VivaPalmeiras]

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I'm not understanding this. I've checked the BBC, ESPN Soccernet, Sky Sports and the Guardian and none of them have Black down as being booked against Auchinleck.Surely they can't all be wrong?

BBC uses associate press to get their stats so could be the case that the others use the same source and the same source got it wrong?

[Tom Hart RIP]

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If Black was booked against St Johnstone & Celtic, shouldn't he be suspended for the final?

Black was definitely suspended fog the ST Johnstone replay so will be ok for the final

[ekhibee]

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Take it from someone who was at the game he was booked. I'm happy that barring injuries both teams can play their strongest teams. I would grant an amnesty for the final each year so unless someone gets sent off in semi then then bookings should not be carried forward. Far better spectacle with best 22 players on pitch

Yep, totally agree with this. I have awful memories of the Hibs 2nd XI that played against Hearts in the semi-final not that long ago.

[Keith Wright Jnr]

I don't think Black's a great player but he is capable of great moments like his pass for Beattie in the last derby.

Our midfield needs to stand up.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Take it from someone who was at the game he was booked. I'm happy that barring injuries both teams can play their strongest teams. I would grant an amnesty for the final each year so unless someone gets sent off in semi then then bookings should not be carried forward. Far better spectacle with best 22 players on pitch

Agreed - remember Ballack missing the WC Final a few years back. Keane and Scholes missed the CL FInal in 99 as well. Everyone (except maybe a straight-red in the semi) should be eligible for a Final.

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I don't think Black's a great player but he is capable of great moments like his pass for Beattie in the last derby.

Our midfield needs to stand up.

That pass was over-rated - just a simple chip over the top after our midfield stood off him. Basic stuff that someone from Bonnyrigg Rose could've managed given that amount of time and space.

[HibernianBohs]

Ian Black is a dirty, over-rated *****-bag and always has been.
Surely it doesn't matter whether he is playing or not, Hibs should not be bothered by his presence/lack of presence,if we play our own game and everyone gets behind the team then we will win.

[JimBHibees]

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Yes he was booked against auchinleck. As previously mentioned he has already served a suspension and will be ok for final.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resource...%20(12JAN).pdf

Here is a list from the SFA site from 12th January which I assume was just after the Auchinleck game indicating Black sitting on a booking.

[lyonhibs]

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Ok and i'll raise you mcpake. Fair swap most important player for each team. Which team would benefit most

Hibs without McPake would be much weaker than a Hearts without Black IMO. But you misunderstand me. I would make an exception for Ian Black not because he's a good player (though, grudgingly, he is) but because he's an 'orrible c*** that should have seen red in the semi-final.

The same cannot be said of McPake.

[pentlando]

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Agreed - remember Ballack missing the WC Final a few years back. Keane and Scholes missed the CL FInal in 99 as well. Everyone (except maybe a straight-red in the semi) should be eligible for a Final.

The rule has to be there, otherwise folk going into the semi final on a booking have no deterrent from picking up another one. I feel sorry for those who are booked or sent off wrongly, such as Darren Fletcher for Man Utd before Champs League Final, but for those who deservedly pick one up they have no-one to blame but themselves. It may deprive someone from playing in the biggest game of their lives but lets not forget it also opens the doors for others to play when they otherwise wouldn't have.