That was a great game Frazer, Beedie scored IIRC, next again away game was away to Morton, also 3 3, Im sure Weir scored a couple before he went to Luton.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Thread: Dunfermline in the Sticky Stuff
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29-02-2012 11:37 PM #31
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01-03-2012 07:35 AM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The Scottish Cup game mentioned earlier was great as well. Pars were in the first and brought a cracking support (4-5000). We won 2-0 and I still remember Archie McPherson's commentary when Steve Cowan missed an easy header....."inexplicable ducking of the head". We still say that when ever anyone misses a header! Funny how you can remember all these details from games 25 years ago but can't even remember the score from games last season!
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01-03-2012 08:04 AM #33This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-03-2012 08:52 AM #34
Very sad indeed their support for the recent 3-2 game at home was embarressing IMO with part of their stand closed also. Incredible that they have just come up last season to be met with such local apathy as I am sure alot of their season tickets would have been reasonably priced for kids etc. A decent sized town with an excellent relatively recent history in the game who have home crowds of 3k tops should be a huge wake up call for the game in this country.
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01-03-2012 08:53 AM #35
Wouldn't have this problem if they had given RFC the two finger salute and sold direct and avoid paying commission etc.
"Home advantage gives you an advantage" Sir Bobby Robson
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01-03-2012 09:29 AM #36
Statement on the Pars' website:
Due to the continuing delay by the Administrators at Rangers in paying the ticket revenue from the game held at East End Park on 11th February 2012 it has been necessary to part pay the Club's February salaries to all staff including management and players.
Bill Hodgins, Chief Executive said " by Monday all staff will have received 80% of their salary and we will be in a position to pay the remaining balance within ten days.
Our staff are aware that this situation is out with the Clubs control and they have been extremely understanding and supportive. In the meantime the Scottish Premier League are in constant dialogue with the Administrator at Rangers in order to try and secure payment of our ticket income of £84,000 that was due on 21st February 2012."
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01-03-2012 09:34 AM #37
I am tempted to say "that's business for you".
In all insolvencies, there are casualties. It's not just the owners and employees of the failed business, but their suppliers as well, who lose out. DAFC are a clear example of this, but such cases happen all the time in other industries. It's a risk, and these days an substantial one, that is a fact of business life.
The trick, if you can manage it, is to anticipate such events, and plan for them in a way that minimises your potential loss. For example, in the SPL situation, I can see most clubs adopting the "direct-sale" approach that Hibs and Hearts have used recently. Also, a "retention of title" clause, if that's possible, in player transfers.Last edited by CropleyWasGod; 01-03-2012 at 09:37 AM.
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01-03-2012 10:03 AM #38
They'll be struggling to pay March salaries as well because they don't have any games after Saturday for three weeks.
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01-03-2012 10:14 AM #39
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Surely the SPL can help as these are extraordinary circumstances. They should be able to take money out of RFC's Prize Money for coming second/third whatever which would be paid at the end of the season and give it to DAFC and DUFC now. Why should other clubs be pulled down because of them.
I know some Hearts fans believe this will happen as they claim there is a clause in the SPL rule book that protects them if RFC don't come up with the readies when the next transfer instalment is due. Has anyone seen any evidence to back up their claims ?
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01-03-2012 10:17 AM #40This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But why should Rangers pay for poor financial management by Dunfermline?; it's not Rangers fault that they have lost £1.5m over the past two seasons.
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01-03-2012 10:33 AM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Rangers are not being asked to bail them out. They are being asked to pay what is due to alllow them to go about their business.
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01-03-2012 10:34 AM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
NEVER forget that.
MON THE LIQUIDATORS AND HMRCLast edited by Bad Martini; 01-03-2012 at 11:52 AM.
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01-03-2012 10:34 AM #43
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Bad isn't it - these people (in football terms at least) are nothing but a shower of ham-shankers and worthy of everybody's contempt. But they are actually in the majority in the likes of Dunfermline!
Nae wonder the Scottish game is dying on it's feet. Have a look down south and you'll find provincial towns like Sunderland where the team has next to no chance at glory and yet they are faithfully and proudly backed by the whole town. As described above, it was closer to that up here in the past - where did it all go wrong
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01-03-2012 10:37 AM #44This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
After a few minutes reflection, you're not far wrong.
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01-03-2012 10:58 AM #45This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I was quite young at the time (10 in 88) but remember Celtc were not that strong at all and Rangers were throwing money about. This was the catalyst for a resurgent Celtc (who before Fergus McCan where actually just an average Scottish football team IIRC)
Those 2 had access to funding no-one else could match and ever since we have seen a slow, gradual decline in the Scottish game, unbalanced and bias in formation and everything else to keep the OF juggernaut fuelled. Thats my take on it anyway.
IMO of course, but we must change the way Scottish football works or teams like Dunfermline will keep having to live on OF life support. Totally unhealthy and killing the Scottish game completely. Short term pain needed, again IMO but I think anyone thinking Scottish football needs Rangers is off their head.
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01-03-2012 11:25 AM #47
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Obviously Pars were expecting anbd would have budgeted ~100K in their cashflow projections this month from RFC when fixtures were anounced. Pars have overestimated crowds in the SPL and have made problems for themselves as a result but they are owed £100K, why should they lose any more money when this part of their increasing debt is not their fault.
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Kenny H above is right - this is a cash flow issue not a P&L issue. Given that they were looking like joint favourites for relegation they may well have calculated cashflow to the end of the season and worked out what extra they could spend on their attempt to avoid it.#PERSEVERED
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01-03-2012 12:03 PM #51This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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A better comparison would be Yeovil with a similar population. How many kids in Yeovil would be wearing Yeovil town strips as opposed to man u, Liverpool, Bristol or Portsmouth strips?
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01-03-2012 12:20 PM #53
Are the Pars in danger of going into administration?
If that's the case I for one don't want Rangers to pay.
A quick 10 point deduction, goodbye Dunfermline, hello safety for Hibs.
Done.
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01-03-2012 01:12 PM #55
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Also they don't contribute to the wider good of the Scottish game. Can't think of the last youngster to come through the ranks at Dumfermline. Finally Jim McIntyre scored the winning goal 2 seasons in a row in the Scottish Cup semi (Dundee Utd and Dumfermline) so no sympathy.
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01-03-2012 03:26 PM #56This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The time for sentamentality is when we are sitting second, CL place secured and a Scottish Cup final to win against Kilmarnock.
Not when we are second bottom, and 3 points above Dunfermline.
If them entering administration saves Hibs from relegation then there is no decision IMO.
J
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01-03-2012 05:18 PM #59This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
i sat a while ago with a group of old firm fans at work and i asked how many old firm games they had been to, none was the reply from them all
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01-03-2012 05:23 PM #60This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yeah, I know, 50/50 hindsight.....
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