Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

***Spike Mandela*** · 13-02-2012 05:52 PM

Ironically if Rangers go into administration and don't exit it by Mar 31st the team likely to benefit with Champions league football are Motherwell who are no stranger to using the tool of administration to preserve their own status.

**Pretty Boy** · 13-02-2012 05:52 PM

I wonder how long until every non OF team in Scotland is blamed for 'holding them back'.

It was the excuse for their on park failures in Europe for years so why not their off field failures as well.

**Lofarl** · 13-02-2012 05:56 PM

http://www.afc-chat.co.uk/

Ma sides. C'mon admins get something like this on the go.

**~~Saorsa~~** · 13-02-2012 05:59 PM

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http://www.afc-chat.co.uk/

Ma sides. C'mon admins get something like this on the go.

Liked this smilie off that site

***Hermit Crab*** · 13-02-2012 06:00 PM

Plans of a boycott of all games now. Check this Facebook page out, they are trying to hit us in the pockets where it hurts, oh the irony http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycot...931968?sk=wall

***Kaiser1962*** · 13-02-2012 06:01 PM

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If Hibs went in to administration today it would be embarrassing in a business sense but I would have absolutely no fear of us going out of business. Administration is a cheats charter, a situation used by businesses sometime almost as a business tool. Rangers aren't ****ed their creditors are.

I have suspicions that Whyte is implementing a plan, a well thought out plan at that.

**Gatecrasher** · 13-02-2012 06:04 PM

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Plans of a boycott of all games now. Check this Facebook page out, they are trying to hit us in the pockets where it hurts, oh the irony http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycot...931968?sk=wall

Hopefully soon they wont be turning up anyway

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 13-02-2012 06:04 PM

Just spent the last hour listening to The Real Radio phone in, thats an hour i'll never get back.
They could at least have got an insolvency expert on instead of the guys arguing with each other and callers about the numerous scenarios and how they could play out.

**~~Saorsa~~** · 13-02-2012 06:05 PM

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Plans of a boycott of all games now. Check this Facebook page out, they are trying to hit us in the pockets where it hurts, oh the irony http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycot...931968?sk=wall

Aye, it would be really terrible right enough, if we didnnae have tae smell them twice a season

speaking personally I'd be gutted

Dinnae rush back tae Easter Road ya smelly hun *****

**ancienthibby** · 13-02-2012 06:08 PM

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I have suspicions that Whyte is implementing a plan, a well thought out plan at that.

Correct!

***Kaiser1962*** · 13-02-2012 06:09 PM

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You really think the timing of this move by the Huns is independent of the outcome of the HMRC case ???? No chance. They've had legal advisers and accountants all over the case like a rash. If they were confident of winning they would not be doing this.

nope, I'll bet their advisers have now come to the conclusion that they will lose the case - hence Whyte trying to protect what he's got.

This appears to be a seperate issue. They dont owe the money to HRC at this moment. They might well do in a month but as things stand, they dont.

**banarc7062** · 13-02-2012 06:10 PM

Is this the same team that considered moving to join the English Premier league no so long ago?

**banarc7062** · 13-02-2012 06:18 PM

As a secured creditor I am sure Craig Whyte will have his personal interes well protected and will have first claim on any assets

**~~JustSimplyHibs~~** · 13-02-2012 06:18 PM

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Sorry, just in and cant be bothered reading through the 200 odd posts on the subject.

Why can HMRC not enforce the sale of assets in order to get the tax bill paid, i.e. murray park, sale of fleet of cars etc.

Surely ibrox and all other assets are worth more than the overall debt of the club...why is winding up the club and selling all they have not an option?

sorry if im being very thick, or its been discussed on the other thread.

The face of Ibrox is a grade B listed building, so can not be sold off, Murray Park is in the hands of a holding company and can not be touched...only assests is on the pitch

***Hermit Crab*** · 13-02-2012 06:20 PM

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Aye, it would be really terrible right enough, if we didnnae have tae smell them twice a season

speaking personally I'd be gutted

Dinnae rush back tae Easter Road ya smelly hun *****

Amen to that.

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 13-02-2012 06:20 PM

If Rangers get away with this, it might be worth everybody else except Celtic all going into admin at the same time, Celtic and Rangers would still be 1st and 2nd, all the other clubs would be debt free with -10 pts at the start of the season. The Jambos would fully embrace that one!

**ancienthibby** · 13-02-2012 06:22 PM

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This appears to be a seperate issue. They dont owe the money to HRC at this moment. They might well do in a month but as things stand, they dont.

A wink and a nod to a blind horse and all that.

As in FJK, Craig Whyte had a strong sense of the stench coming towards him, as in this action was completely pre-meditated!.

***TrinityHibs*** · 13-02-2012 06:22 PM

£75M for the tax man Hahahahahhahhahaahahahaha

***Wembley67*** · 13-02-2012 06:22 PM

Just been confirmed that the tax bill could be around the £75 million mark....

**Gala Foxes** · 13-02-2012 06:23 PM

Whyte on Sky Sports talking about CVA agreement - got to feel sorry for the numerous suppliers to Rangers who will get "pennies in the pound" if anything

Makes you sick - like Hearts they have been living way outwith their means for years, normal honest suppliers will get bumped for money & they will reform and start up again

***CropleyWasGod*** · 13-02-2012 06:25 PM

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Just been confirmed that the tax bill could be around the £75 million mark....

By whom?

***Kaiser1962*** · 13-02-2012 06:26 PM

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A wink and a nod to a blind horse and all that.

As in FJK, Craig Whyte had a strong sense of the stench coming towards him, as in this action was completely pre-meditated!.

No doubt in my mind.

IMO they have been actively working towards this since Whyte took over.

***TrinityHibs*** · 13-02-2012 06:26 PM

Wonga adverts just been on Real Radio if you know anybody who needs a short term loan hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

***TrinityHibs*** · 13-02-2012 06:27 PM

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By whom?

Whyte Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

**stevenhibs** · 13-02-2012 06:28 PM

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Makes you sick - like Hearts they have been living way outwith their means for years, normal honest suppliers will get bumped for money & they will reform and start up again

Yup! The huns are playing a blinder with this one! Trying to force HMRC into a much reduced tax bill rather than the nowt they would get if they were in administration. Genius!

Something's got to be done about debt levels in football. It's nothing short of cheating.

***Arch Stanton*** · 13-02-2012 06:30 PM

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I have suspicions that Whyte is implementing a plan, a well thought out plan at that.

Not sure about that - Whyte is in no position to gain from this.

I actually suspect that it is Murray's plan - to get Whyte to take the club into administration so that he can come back in and buy the club from the administrator.

**carnoustiehibee** · 13-02-2012 06:30 PM

http://i.imgur.com/p1xie.jpg

My favourite from afc-chat

***Kaiser1962*** · 13-02-2012 06:31 PM

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Not sure about that - Whyte is in no position to gain from this.

I actually suspect that it is Murray's plan - to get Whyte to take the club into administration so that he can come back in and buy the club from the administrator.

We shall see.

***TrinityHibs*** · 13-02-2012 06:31 PM

Love this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_0Mseq6ZY&feature=fvst

Wondering if I can get to 1000 posts tonight

***CropleyWasGod*** · 13-02-2012 06:31 PM

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Not sure about that - Whyte is in no position to gain from this.

I actually suspect that it is Murray's plan - to get Whyte to take the club into administration so that he can come back in and buy the club from the administrator.

He has security over Ibrox and MP for his loan to the company. If he calls in the loan, he can then take possession of them.

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