Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[LeighLoyal]

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I'm hearing that it's an open-and-shut case against them, they will be found guilty and Strathclyde's finest have been involved in the preparation leading up to the announcement.

Could be right laugh tomorrow.

Please be true. The Daily Sevcord will have to put out a black issue.

[grunt]

Chick Young and Billy Dodds both very annoying on Sportsound.
Young - "we need to draw a line under this, the players have said they did nothing wrong".
So that's it, is it Chick? If the players say so, we should just drop it?
He seems to fail to understand the meaning of the word "investigation".

[Hibernia Na Eir]

there's simply no reason why huns shouldn't be stripped of titles tomorrow. they breached rules. simples!

[Hibernia Na Eir]

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Please be true. The Daily Sevcord will have to put out a black issue.

it can only have one outcome.

the dirty, manky, cheating teady bears. Ready, aye. (Ready for a stripping!!!)

[Spike Mandela]

I'm surprised we haven't had any leaks of the decision so far. Hope it's not a damp squib like the tax case.

[marti1875]

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I'm surprised we haven't had any leaks of the decision so far. Hope it's not a damp squib like the tax case.

I'm much the same.....waiting on the outcome more in hope than expectation unfortunately.
You never know, they could surprise us and strip them bare of those titles then we can sit back and watch as the orcs go off their heids....again!

[hibs0666]

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there's simply no reason why huns shouldn't be stripped of titles tomorrow. they breached rules. simples!

I reckon they'll be found guilty and oldco will receive a token fine.

[WindyMiller]

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I'm surprised we haven't had any leaks of the decision so far. Hope it's not a damp squib like the tax case.

Radio Scotland just mentioned that there will be leaks, as Sevco and the SFA will get the report earlier than 12 noon.

[Jack]

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Chick Young and Billy Dodds both very annoying on Sportsound.
Young - "we need to draw a line under this, the players have said they did nothing wrong".
So that's it, is it Chick? If the players say so, we should just drop it?
He seems to fail to understand the meaning of the word "investigation".

I don't see the problem with that.

The players are only hired by the club and IMO its not up to them to fathom out whether the wages they get are legitimate.

IMO its upto the club to be working within the rules and regulations they are bound by and, at a push, their handsomely paid advisers/agents* to pay due diligence.

No, the players can keep what they won on the pitch but the club has to be severely dealt with for systematically breaking the rules.

*If not that then WTF are they paid for? They have to provide a service which is more than lining their own pockets.

[jonty]

Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug
#Rangers will not be stripped of league titles. More to follow... #BBCSport

WTF!

[Saorsa]

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Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug
#Rangers will not be stripped of league titles. More to follow... #BBCSport

WTF!

Really! What a bunch of mealy mouthed gutless ****in' cowards.

[jonty]

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Really! What a bunch of mealy mouthed gutless ****in' cowards.

To be fair, it wouldn't be so bad if Green, McCoist and the fans etc admitted the FACT that The Rangers don't have any titles.

[s.a.m]

RT @STVSport: Rangers oldco fined £250,000 but will keep their SPL titles http://bit.ly/YBw0WK

[Saorsa]

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RT @STVSport: Rangers oldco fined £250,000 but will keep their SPL titles http://bit.ly/YBw0WK

The commission has ruled it was necessary for Rangers to declare the payments and, as such, has declared players improperly registered were ineligible to participate in league matches.

So they played players that were improperly registerd (cheated) but they get tae keep the titles they cheated! gutless ****in' ***** bags and cowards.

[HibbyDave]

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RT @STVSport: Rangers oldco fined £250,000 but will keep their SPL titles http://bit.ly/YBw0WK

Which firm would pay the fine? More importantly......where will the funds go to?

[adhibs]

Joke of a decisision. completely unsurprised.

[JeMeSouviens]

So Spartans can get thrown out of the Cup for fielding a player ineligible because his registration lacked a second signature but the Huns get to keep league titles gained through years of fielding payers ineligible because they were getting huge extra off the books payments in the name of aggressive tax avoidance?

Welcome to Scottish football - where the rules* are applied with a great big dose of fear and a massive dollop of favour.



* just as soon as we've made them up.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug
#Rangers will not be stripped of league titles. More to follow... #BBCSport

WTF!

Better get the padded room ready for FalkirkHibby!

[jonty]

Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamont
The judgement from Lord Nimmo Smith's independent commission will say no unfair competitive advantage was gained on the field.

I'm not sure how they can judge that?

Alasdair Lamont @BBCAlLamont
The fine has been imposed for an "administrative error" as non-disclosure had effect of rendering all the registered players ineligible.

[Saorsa]

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I'm not sure how they can judge that?

[EuanH78]

Unjust decision IMO, administrative error?

Is this a joke?

[LeighLoyal]

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Better get the padded room ready for FalkirkHibby!

A white wash was to be expected of course, but they're not Sevco's titles, they belong to a dead club. Total joke though!

[Saorsa]

[Hibernia&Alba]

The establishment closes ranks. Masonic handshakes for all, Brother Nimmo to end the reading of the inquiry's findings with the phrase 'we are the people'.

It will be interesting to hear the reasons given for this decision.

[JimBHibees]

Quite incredible.

Rangers oldco has been fined £250,000 by an independent commission investigating allegations of failing to correctly register players. Full details of the judgement are to be published at noon, but it had earlier emerged that Rangers would not be stripped of league titles.

"The judgement states that side letters should have been disclosed, but oldco management failed to do this. But the commission found no unfair competitive advantage was gained on the field. Non-disclosure had effect of rendering all the registered players ineligible, so a fine was imposed for an administrative error.

"Rangers won the league five times in the period under investigation 2001-2011, in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011."

This bit is incredible how are they calling it an administrative error when it was failure to disclose payments which render the players ineligible. How they can say they gained no competitive advantage makes no logical sense whatsoever. Quite unbelievable.

[LeighLoyal]

the whole thing should have been handled by UEFA. Nobody is going to accept this farce except deadco fans, but bottom line it's hugely damaging to the remaining credibility of Scottish football.

[Sweet Left Peg]

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So Spartans can get thrown out of the Cup for fielding a player ineligible because his registration lacked a second signature but the Huns get to keep league titles gained through years of fielding payers ineligible because they were getting huge extra off the books payments in the name of aggressive tax avoidance?

Welcome to Scottish football - where the rules* are applied with a great big dose of fear and a massive dollop of favour. :rolleyes
* just as soon as we've made them up.

This puts things into a rather interesting perspective. Looking forward to hearing the reasons for this decision.

[jonty]

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Quite incredible.

Rangers oldco has been fined £250,000 by an independent commission investigating allegations of failing to correctly register players. Full details of the judgement are to be published at noon, but it had earlier emerged that Rangers would not be stripped of league titles.

"The judgement states that side letters should have been disclosed, but oldco management failed to do this. But the commission found no unfair competitive advantage was gained on the field. Non-disclosure had effect of rendering all the registered players ineligible, so a fine was imposed for an administrative error.

"Rangers won the league five times in the period under investigation 2001-2011, in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011."

This bit is incredible how are they calling it an administrative error when it was failure to disclose payments which render the players ineligible. How they can say they gained no competitive advantage makes no logical sense whatsoever. Quite unbelievable.

I guess what they're saying is that if the side letters had been disclosed then it would have been ok and not against the rules. In its simplest and most innocent form, it was an admin error.

[jonty]

full verdict http://www.scotprem.com/content/medi...002%202013.pdf

[Peevemor]

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I guess what they're saying is that if the side letters had been disclosed then it would have been ok and not against the rules. In its simplest and most innocent form, it was an admin error.

Except it wasn't innocent - it was fraud.