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Huns in 3, and I probably will buy a ST, even if I dont get a chance to go along much. Huns in 1, and MOTD will be my only football watching next year.
View Poll Results: What is your attitude to a new "Rangers" entering at Div1?
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29-06-2012 10:58 PM #15001
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29-06-2012 11:00 PM #15003
Someone correct me here but D&P not sell assets & players to Sevco 5088? if so why has Sevco Scotland sent a membership application?
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29-06-2012 11:16 PM #15004
Enter this into Google image search:
the big rangers administration thread
Bet you smile. Bet you do. Every last one of you will smile as you waft your cursor over each image. I guarantee itLess talk, more gifs. 21.05.16
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30-06-2012 12:00 AM #15007This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-06-2012 02:31 AM #15009This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And can I just take this opportunity to say **** the Huns.
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30-06-2012 02:46 AM #15010This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
also uefa and fifa and sfl.spl.sfa ones if you dont mind
time for me to get my email on!!!!!
cheers
daveLast edited by reservoir hibee; 30-06-2012 at 02:52 AM.
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30-06-2012 07:16 AM #15011
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I heard Chris Brookmyre on the radio a few months back, saying that he can't remember a time when there was such a big disconnect between the football authorities / media and the fanbase, since the period that resulted in the creation of fanzines. I - and everyone else I know who follows a non old firm team - struggle to justify the time and money to attend. Everyone, bar those who make their money out of governing or reporting on the game, wants proper change.
I saw a Tweet yesterday from a journalist who thought it was 'astonishing' that a proportion of Motherwell fans had voted 'no' to Newco in the SPL, even if it meant their team going in to administration. I can understand where they're coming from: the game, as it is, is not worth saving. Or watching.
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30-06-2012 07:54 AM #15012
What I find quite funny about all of this, is that from day 1 of administration to present day, there have been people in power bending over backwards to ensure Sevco 5088 play at the highest level next year. This has been driven by the media & SPL, condoned by the SFA and knocked back by the supporters of all clubs. It has been continually reported that Sevco 5088 through the authorities have concluded deals, whether that was agreement with HMRC over a CVA or being parachuted into division 1 after done deals with the SFA, SPL or SFL, or doomsday scenario for Scottish football is around the corner, but on closer examination they have all fell through, as is what is happening with the latest rescue plan. We are now all conditioned into accepting Sevco 5088 into Scottish football, and arguing about what level, as some sort of saviour for our game, when in reality they shouldn't be within a 100 miles of a public playing park, never mind a professional league. It has been accepted that best case (in most supporters eyes) scenario is 3rd division. What about the other teams, Gala, Spartans, etc who have more right to apply for a vacant position within Scottish football, clubs who have a history, and accounts for the last 3 years. I hope that the SFL chairmen when faced with the dilemma of choosing between a newco and a bonafide football club, are sufficiently pissed off with the SPL chairmen for trying to bully them into accepting a newco, make the right choice, and refuse newco entry. No body likes to be bullied, and the only solution to dealing with bullies is standing up to them and delivering a swift kick to the baws.
GGTTH
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30-06-2012 07:59 AM #15013This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Either it is, as it appears a genuine effort to save zombieHuns5088 or whatever - In which case the heads of the governing bodies must roll - so out of touch with the populace as they are. This would be a win for me to be honest
Or it is a deliberate machivellian attempt to kill the Huns stone dead. After putting everybodies back up with this crap, the percentage of clubs willing to vote them back in to any league must have dropped a little bit now, again a win . Though if this were true I cant for the life of me fathom out why it would be done this way, except maybe... afraid to pull the trigger themselves? so the blame for the Huns total demise can be laid at the door of many people/ clubs (in a hun sense that is, we all know they brought this on themselves)
But that all seems rather far fetched maybe?Last edited by EuanH78; 30-06-2012 at 08:01 AM.
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30-06-2012 08:07 AM #15014
Gang of Ten
As Rangers depart the SPL scene I thinks it's time to look at what we want Scottish football to look like from now on.
1. First things first, we need a change to the voting system to at least a 9-3 majority required. All other reforms will flow from this.
2. Equal TV money.
3. Gate sharing. Given that some clubs have large stadiums to maintain I think that the first 17000 fans through the gate should go to the home team and all fans above this number split 50-50 with the away team. (unfortunately for Celtic this system means they would be the only losers)
3. Any prize money earned through European competition must be shared 50-50 with the league you represent. This means that in future if Celtic get a £10m champs league windfall then the other 11 SPL clubs will receive a bonus as well.
These are just some changes I can think of just now.
All of these systems are currently in use elsewhere in Europe and there are no legal obstacles to implementing them.
They would go a long way towards bringing sporting parity to our league.
Feel free to add others.
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30-06-2012 08:11 AM #15015This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-06-2012 08:17 AM #15016This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I was briefly proud of my own club and Rod Petrie, believing we had done the correct and only possible thing, to the extent that I immediately renewed my season ticket. Now I see that this was merely a snide, patronising concession and I regret ever having invested this confidence.
I’m truly heartbroken that Hibernian, which has been synonymous with the triumph of the underdog and an ethos of class and integrity, as exemplified by its greats such as Smith, Stanton and Sauzee, has been inextricably caught up in this undignified mess that Scottish Football has become. And it’s become this way because it has allowed a member club to become bloated on bigotry and sectarianism, and afforded it an entitled place in our national game out of all proportion to what it should be. As a result the administration of the game has attracted shysters, fellow travellers and their craven apologists. They are unfit to run football and it pains me to say this, but FIFA should kick us out of the world game right now, until we establish that we can run the sport pursuant with the ethos of fair play by pre-agreed rules.
This incident reflects shockingly on us as a country. Some will say that it only proves we cannot be trusted to run our own affairs, others will argue that the culture of dependency has made us shrink back and sit on our hands while the lunatics who have taken over this particular asylum masturbate frantically while it burns down around us. Whatever one’s view of the grubby proceedings, in retrospect it now seems as if we have been on this inevitable collision course for decades. We should not be having this discussion, not heading for this defining moment in Scottish Football, simply on the basis of the corruption of one member club. All that should happen is that the simple rules of the association are enforced. That ship has probably sailed now; it looks as though we are heading for a cataclysmic meltdown of our national game, with probable outside intervention, and that might not eventually be a bad thing, as it may offer the last chance to resurrect something positive from this mess.
I’m very angry right now, as evidently, are many other long-term supporters of Scottish football. I know so many of them who have invested financially, physically and emotionally in their clubs over the years, often at the expense of those other things in life. I know that so many of them now feel cheated and duped, like they have gone along with a scam perpetuated by mealy-mouthed confidence tricksters, who will lie, twist and squirm to maintain a wrecked and suffocating status quo. Right now, the people who run our game have a hell of a lot of work to do in order to convince me and many other soon-to-be ex fans, that there is any point whatsoever in investing in their succulent lamb, sashes-and-flutes-pandering WWF toytown league.
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30-06-2012 08:18 AM #15017This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Dangerous ground there, refusing them access to Div 3 might open up the way for them to the hallowed ground of English Football.
Not that I would be against that as long as they ground shared with Carlise or somebody south of Gretna.
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30-06-2012 08:21 AM #15019This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-06-2012 08:27 AM #15021This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Refusing them access to the Scottish Game would give them the basis of an argument for an exception to be made if they had any " friends " at EUFA.
Fortunately that is not the case.
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30-06-2012 08:29 AM #15022This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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30-06-2012 08:41 AM #15023
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30-06-2012 08:47 AM #15024This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You got one thing wrong though. there are 4 divisions in the West of Scotland League, and they would have to join the Central Division 2 and take their chances with the other 11 clubs.There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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30-06-2012 08:54 AM #15025This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Well put Bob....
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30-06-2012 08:54 AM #15026
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The SFA would also have to sanction any match that they played while based in Scotland, so I don't even see a Govan Globetrotters playing anywhere.Space to let
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