Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Geo_1875]

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Using Morelos' £8m "valuation" and their "refusal" to sell wouldn't be an acceptable business case for a bank loan. They're at it and the Scottish media are complicit.

[Jack Hackett]

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He seems a bit too desperate to say "there is nothing wrong".

Puts me in mind of Sutherland coming out with his infamous 'We are self sufficient' statement shortly before the yams bounced the pensioners and charities

[Liberal Hibby]

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Isn’t it usually a bad thing for a business to comment on rumours that it’s in trouble?
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Sounds spookily like this:

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/...cial_problems/

[Winston Ingram]

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Superb. We made up a story involving a fabricated bid so we must be fine.

[AndyM_1875]

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Their PR advice since Jabba joined has been primary school stuff.

Great for the rest of us watching though !!

Nobody outside Sevco believes there was a bid for Morelos - so why the BBC feel the need to hang another of their reporters out to dry for the Huns is beyond me.

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If Rangers wanted to start to get some decent publicity and be seen that they were acting like grown ups they could do two things for quick wins.

1) Dispense with the services of Level 5 - this would sort a lot of their image issues as that firm is an embarrassment.

2) Stop acting like bairns with the BBC (the biggest and most influential Football broadcaster in Scotland) and go and have an adult grown up conversation with them instead of this perma huff which is puerile.

[HoboHarry]

He is almost provoking JJ and Phil Mac into responding by asking for the proof. Neither Jabba nor Sevco seem to grasp the power of the internet....

[Moulin Yarns]

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£8m for Morelos ??. In the real world they'd struggle to get £1m - spends more time diving and screaming at the ref than he does scoring ! Once again our 'media' shows that there's no depths they won't sink to !

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alfre...spieler/338962

[Ozyhibby]

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http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alfre...spieler/338962

Normally that site over values players.


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[Moulin Yarns]

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Correct.
If Rangers wanted to start to get some decent publicity and be seen that they were acting like grown ups they could do two things for quick wins.

1) Dispense with the services of Level 5 - this would sort a lot of their image issues as that firm is an embarrassment.

2) Stop acting like bairns with the BBC (the biggest and most influential Football broadcaster in Scotland) and go and have an adult grown up conversation with them instead of this perma huff which is puerile.

Regarding the BBC 'ban' it annoys me the amount of reporting the BBC do on The Rangers when a total blackout would IMO be very effective.

[ehf]

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I know the Scotsman is a sinking ship but it's staggering that they are taking the Morelos Chinese bid story at face value. It's inconceivable that there was an offer of £7.5 million (it's above the limit that Chinese clubs are allowed, for starters) and inconceivable that, if there had been such a bid (or anything like it), Sevco would have rejected it.

No idea who David Gunn (the "journalist" who wrote this particular piece) is but Aidan Smith reported the Morelos story as accepted fact at the weekend - he should be ashamed of himself.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Correct.
If Rangers wanted to start to get some decent publicity and be seen that they were acting like grown ups they could do two things for quick wins.

1) Dispense with the services of Level 5 - this would sort a lot of their image issues as that firm is an embarrassment.

2) Stop acting like bairns with the BBC (the biggest and most influential Football broadcaster in Scotland) and go and have an adult grown up conversation with them instead of this perma huff which is puerile.

I'm not sure that's in their best interest, tbh. Unless they ever get a team together with a chance of challenging Celtc, the only thing keeping Ra Berrz buying STs for this new team is a circle the wagons, defiant mentality. Hence back to the old songs, more military paraphernalia than you could shake a poppy at, plenty of statements, etc etc.

[jacomo]

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I know the Scotsman is a sinking ship but it's staggering that they are taking the Morelos Chinese bid story at face value. It's inconceivable that there was an offer of £7.5 million (it's above the limit that Chinese clubs are allowed, for starters) and inconceivable that, if there had been such a bid (or anything like it), Sevco would have rejected it.

No idea who David Gunn (the "journalist" who wrote this particular piece) is but Aidan Smith reported the Morelos story as accepted fact at the weekend - he should be ashamed of himself.

The BBC journalist who offered an apology to Sevco is leading the way.

We really need Alex Thomson or another journo outside the Glasgow bubble to become interested again.

[Onion]

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I know the Scotsman is a sinking ship but it's staggering that they are taking the Morelos Chinese bid story at face value. It's inconceivable that there was an offer of £7.5 million (it's above the limit that Chinese clubs are allowed, for starters) and inconceivable that, if there had been such a bid (or anything like it), Sevco would have rejected it.

No idea who David Gunn (the "journalist" who wrote this particular piece) is but Aidan Smith reported the Morelos story as accepted fact at the weekend - he should be ashamed of himself.

The story is made up garbage. Sevco refusing such an offer is the equivalent of them going out and buying a player for £7.5m - there's no way in Hell they could afford to do that - not even close.

Hanging onto Morelos makes no economic sense. The only reasons would be if his presence in the Sevco side gave them a crack at the Champions League, prevented Celtic from 10 in a Row, or if they believe his value will rise in the future. None of those things will happen.

This is a Trump(ed) up story to appease their fan base, and discredit the FBI and the Mueler Enquiry

If there was a bid, then more likely for ¥8m (about $900k) than £8m.

[Marco G]

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I know the Scotsman is a sinking ship but it's staggering that they are taking the Morelos Chinese bid story at face value. It's inconceivable that there was an offer of £7.5 million (it's above the limit that Chinese clubs are allowed, for starters) and inconceivable that, if there had been such a bid (or anything like it), Sevco would have rejected it.

No idea who David Gunn (the "journalist" who wrote this particular piece) is but Aidan Smith reported the Morelos story as accepted fact at the weekend - he should be ashamed of himself.

BBC reporter asked the Chinese club and club denied they had made any bid, and they pointed out they have their full quota of foreign players. But all the MMS are just ignoring that fact cause it spoils the whole yarn.

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[HoboHarry]

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The story is made up garbage. Sevco refusing such an offer is the equivalent of them going out and buying a player for £7.5m - there's no way in Hell they could afford to do that - not even close.

Hanging onto Morelos makes no economic sense. The only reasons would be if his presence in the Sevco side gave them a crack at the Champions League, prevented Celtic from 10 in a Row, or if they believe his value will rise in the future. None of those things will happen.

This is a Trump(ed) up story to appease King to their fan base, and discredit the FBI and the Mueler Enquiry

Here is Phil Mac's take on it - interesting and we'll soon see if there is any truth in it.....

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2018/0...be-challenged/

[Ozyhibby]

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I know the Scotsman is a sinking ship but it's staggering that they are taking the Morelos Chinese bid story at face value. It's inconceivable that there was an offer of £7.5 million (it's above the limit that Chinese clubs are allowed, for starters) and inconceivable that, if there had been such a bid (or anything like it), Sevco would have rejected it.

No idea who David Gunn (the "journalist" who wrote this particular piece) is but Aidan Smith reported the Morelos story as accepted fact at the weekend - he should be ashamed of himself.

That plus the fact that Chinese clubs currently have to pay a 100% tax on foreign players and suddenly they are paying £15m for morelas.


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[Stonewall]

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Jeezo, and they're probably wondering why no-one buys their rag any more.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Normally that site over values players.


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I hope not, SJM is £495k

[jacomo]

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BBC reporter asked the Chinese club and club denied they had made any bid, and they pointed out they have their full quota of foreign players. But all the MMS are just ignoring that fact cause it spoils the whole yarn.

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He has since claimed that he saw the bids “with his own eyes”... hence the retraction and apology to Sevco.

This begs the question - is it normal for journos to see actual bids (which is in reality an offer from one corporate entity to another)?

How did he see them? Presumably summoned to the fax machine room at Ibrox.

All very weird.

[jacomo]

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Here is Phil Mac's take on it - interesting and we'll soon see if there is any truth in it.....

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2018/0...be-challenged/

It makes sense, albeit his ‘source’ is probably his own fevered imagination.

[ian cruise]

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It makes sense, albeit his ‘source’ is probably his own fevered imagination.

Or Kerrydale St

[AndyM_1875]

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I'm not sure that's in their best interest, tbh. Unless they ever get a team together with a chance of challenging Celtc, the only thing keeping Ra Berrz buying STs for this new team is a circle the wagons, defiant mentality. Hence back to the old songs, more military paraphernalia than you could shake a poppy at, plenty of statements, etc etc.

Perhaps you're right. I was crediting them with the ability to occasionally act like grown ups. Probably a step too far

[Stonewall]

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Jeezo, and they're probably wondering why no-one buys their rag any more.

[Newry Hibs]

I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how much he does actually go for - presumably in the summer. He has got the rest of the season to go and could up his price to maybe 10m (in whatever currency sounds best).

[euro Hibby]

My money is on it being a whole lot of sh**e and if it were true its just a potential money laundering scam to move some cash somewhere. The guy who bought AC Milan is an unheard of business man who manged to
get financed from a US fund. He has no track record. It is so easy to make fake stories from china but as we know jabba and the gang don't cover all the stops so eventually the truth will come to the surface.
These guys at Rangers are total sharks........ but they have a harder time today because their team is run of the mill and there is only so much the sfa can do keep them up top. 10/15 years a go Hibs would never have
got a penalty at Ibrox !

[Deansy]

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He has since claimed that he saw the bids “with his own eyes”... hence the retraction and apology to Sevco.

This begs the question - is it normal for journos to see actual bids (which is in reality an offer from one corporate entity to another)?

How did he see them? Presumably summoned to the fax machine room at Ibrox.

All very weird.

And of course, being the true professional journalist he decided there was no need to photograph these 'bids' as the Scottish Football 'media' are held in such high esteem, his 'word' would be enough ...................................

[Kato]

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And of course, being the true professional journalist he decided there was no need to photograph these 'bids' as the Scottish Football 'media' are held in such high esteem, his 'word' would be enough ...................................

I think "I saw the bids with my own eyes" is a euphemism for "didny want ma windeas tanned/wanted the twitter death threats to stop".

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http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alfre...spieler/338962

Fair point but have you looked how much they value sjm?
Ggtth

[Ozyhibby]

Morelles dropped for tonight. Imagine unsettling your own striker.


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[Tornadoes70]

Kim Whyte v Craig Whyte back in court this week for a 2 day proof hearing. I'm assuming this is the matter of non payment of maintenance payments to his ex wife. The once lauded Chairman of the old Rangers once described as having multi millions 'off the radar' in court for failing to pony up aliment. Dearie me.



mon the cabbage!!!