Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Smartie]

I have a bit of sympathy for Petrie on this.

I have it on fairly good authority that when the original kerfuffle was going on he was all up for stripping the titles at that point, and I'd be amazed if anything has happened since then to change his opinion.

He sounded far from convinced or convincing there.

There will be differing opinions within the board and whether he agrees or not he'll need to trot out the party line.

Petrie has never feared making himself unpopular with anyone, so the Rangers hordes will not affect him.

Even though I've not always been a fan of what he's done at Hibs I do think he'd do the right thing by us when it comes to SPFL business, and he'll be well aware that the majority of our fans would want to see at the very least another investigation.

[HoboHarry]

What's the possibility of us announcing a signing to coincide with a statement about Sevco?

[Smartie]

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What's the possibility of us announcing a signing to coincide with a statement about Sevco?

That's it, I'm never going back, the game's a bogey, here you go Rod, here's my season ticket back.....

WHOA

STOKESY!!!!!!!!!

BRING ON THE NEW SEASON!!!!!!!!

[ancient hibee]

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What's the possibility of us announcing a signing to coincide with a statement about Sevco?

5/1 on.

[Ozyhibby]

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Aye, Hibs have always been in cahoots with the Hun, I tell ye it's a ****** masonic / Fenian conspiracy.......

It's not about being in cahoots. It's about doing the right thing.


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[Onion]

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I have a bit of sympathy for Petrie on this.

I have it on fairly good authority that when the original kerfuffle was going on he was all up for stripping the titles at that point, and I'd be amazed if anything has happened since then to change his opinion.

He sounded far from convinced or convincing there.

There will be differing opinions within the board and whether he agrees or not he'll need to trot out the party line.

Petrie has never feared making himself unpopular with anyone, so the Rangers hordes will not affect him.

Even though I've not always been a fan of what he's done at Hibs I do think he'd do the right thing by us when it comes to SPFL business, and he'll be well aware that the majority of our fans would want to see at the very least another investigation.

The common line trotted out by the WCM is that they are following legal advice (and that advice is you cannot strip). If true then individual opinions matter little.

[Ozyhibby]

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What's the possibility of us announcing a signing to coincide with a statement about Sevco?

And they will release the statement late in the day so that all the Celtic fans are already on their way to their match.


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[MrSmith]

I have bought no season tix nor strips this time because I feel violated by cheats! Not another penny will leave my wallet re hibs until justice is served upon the cheats.

[Spike Mandela]

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Quick body swerve there, Rod. Barry John would have been proud of that one. Mind you, Barry"s windies wurny at stake.

To be fair, he's saying it"s time to stop poking the cat and move on. Up to a point I agree. (Tin hat firmly on).

So in essence the authorities are saying....

"Rangers cheated, we're daeing nothing aboot it so what are you fannies gonna dae?" " **** off peasants".

[Jack]

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I get that and I am all for ramming anything right up the Rangers, but..........

What I am asking is - in a practical sense - what does disqualifying them from a tournament XYZ years ago mean?

If you played the Huns in a semi final do you get to replay the final (ridiculous of course), but you get my drift now?

It's really quite simple.

All results are 3.0 defeats. Recognised as a sanction around the footballing world.

That will basically mean not winning any trophies, knocked out of the first round of cups, during the period of dual contracts.

Any other outcome will have Scottish football as the most corrupt in the world, the only sporting authority in the world to sanction cheating. Even more than the world footballing authorities themselves, who are at least trying to make amends.

[Manxhibs]

Number 3 on this list - https://youtu.be/o6AtSJ5hFXc

Pleasing :)

[Kato]

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Rangers gained a financial edge over other clubs but then so has every team who overspent and then entered administration. As for stripping titles what is that going to achieve? Our game needs to move on and try talking it up rather than revisit old issues. We all believe they got an unfair advantage and love reminding them of it.

Have any of those other clubs been found to have had side-contracts?

[HoboHarry]

Appalling if true and our very own RP is involved in it up to his neck.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...heme-1-4512742

[Iggy Pope]

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If we go after Rangers, then a bit of whataboutery might bring this into play.


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True. You mentioned Dundee. Are we to deduct 15 points from them every time they couldn't deal without an Administrator? Motherwell too? Let's have that whataboutery across the board please.

[Haymaker]

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Appalling if true and our very own RP is involved in it up to his neck.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...heme-1-4512742

Appalling indeed.

[Ozyhibby]

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True. You mentioned Dundee. Are we to deduct 15 points from them every time they couldn't deal without an Administrator? Motherwell too? Let's have that whataboutery across the board please.

Ther were no rules against over spending, still aren't. Disgracefully. Sevco are back at it and who can blame them. They know they can do what they like.


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[jacomo]

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Not convincing at all from Petrie.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40...kname=scotland


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I know you are critical of Rod but that is a holding statement, nothing more or less.

Without knowing what happened behind closed doors it is hard to read much into it.

[jacomo]

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Have any of those other clubs been found to have had side-contracts?

That is the crucial distinction.

This is about hiding details of players contracts from the authorities. That is expressly against the rules.

[Ozyhibby]

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I know you are critical of Rod but that is a holding statement, nothing more or less.

Without knowing what happened behind closed doors it is hard to read much into it.

I really hope you are right. Rod does the right thing here and I'll forgive him for the way he ran Hibs. I know that's important to him, so hopefully he reads this.


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[jacomo]

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I really hope you are right. Rod does the right thing here and I'll forgive him for the way he ran Hibs. I know that's important to him, so hopefully he reads this.


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So do I!

Has this fabled legal advice been published?

[Ozyhibby]

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So do I!

Has this fabled legal advice been published?

Nope.


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[Deansy]

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Number 3 on this list - https://youtu.be/o6AtSJ5hFXc

Pleasing :)

Lovely stuff - our 'media'() should take note !

[Is It On....]

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Appalling if true and our very own RP is involved in it up to his neck.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...heme-1-4512742

Warren Hawke on the board ffs...makes me feel really old!! One apon-a-time we would have wanted him to sign for us!!

[kaimendhibs]

Barry Ferguson declared insolvent with debts of 1.4 million. Claims only to have 3 grand. Poppinjay must be worth a fortune.

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[kaimendhibs]

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/1...__1_4_million/

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[Jonnyboy]

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Barry Ferguson declared insolvent with debts of 1.4 million. Claims only to have 3 grand. Poppinjay must be worth a fortune.

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Soon to be known as The Barry Ferguson

[Bostonhibby]

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Soon to be known as The Barry Ferguson

Ferco?

Barry Ferguson international 2017?

[malcolm]

Publication of fabled advice?

While I am not suggesting they sought a legal view down the pub (or the lodge) you get what you pay for is a rule in most affairs of life. We don't know the question that any lawyers were asked to opine on othe context in which it was asked.

If you pay for an opinion you might reasonably have an outcome in mind that you favour and you may be testing it for various reasons - for example the likelihood of if being a persuasive enough argument supported by law and precedent for a court to agree. But you may have no wish or intention to go anywhere near a court and are looking for some form of credible support to justify action or inaction.

It may be wrong to place undue credibility on a legal opinion from an unknown party with no clarity on the point of law asked about. If legal opinions were simply the be all and end all we would not need a civil court system or judges to make decisions.

[Spike Mandela]

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http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/1...__1_4_million/

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No doubt his assets are in another family members name and this bankruptcy will be a way of shielding himself from HMRC when they come calling for EBT monies.

I expect a domino effect of choreographed bankrupcies now for recipients who can afford a good financial adviser and lawyer.

[CropleyWasGod]

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No doubt his assets are in another family members name and this bankruptcy will be a way of shielding himself from HMRC when they come calling for EBT monies.

I expect a domino effect of choreographed bankrupcies now for recipients who can afford a good financial adviser and lawyer.

This isn't about the EBT tax. It's about the investment he, and others, made into film schemes which failed, and for which tax relief was denied. He's not the first to go this way, and he won't be the last.


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