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    Still think not proven is likely verdict and quite quickly unless the jury want to spin it out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Still think not proven is likely verdict and quite quickly unless the jury want to spin it out.




    I still think Murray should be prosecuted, even if it's just for the crime of being David Murray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keekaboo View Post
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    I still think Murray should be prosecuted, even if it's just for the crime of being David Murray.
    Ditto !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Still think not proven is likely verdict and quite quickly unless the jury want to spin it out.
    Judge said in her summing up that she would accept an 8-7 verdict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Judge said in her summing up that she would accept an 8-7 verdict.
    What would happen if 5 vote guilty, 5 not-guilty and 5 not proven ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by southsider View Post
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    What would happen if 5 vote guilty, 5 not-guilty and 5 not proven ?
    Nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by southsider View Post
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    What would happen if 5 vote guilty, 5 not-guilty and 5 not proven ?
    Ha - good question! Cannot find that in Doleman's tweets, certainly not enough for a conviction, and she did say that not guilty and not proven would have exactly the same effect. I suspect that there would be an acquittal but cannot say for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    This is from Lady Stacey's summing-up:-

    Directs the jury issue is not if Murray should have known, , but the practical result of pretence

    I interpret that as "it's irrelevant" that he could/should have known.
    This is closely linked to:

    Defence position s that Murray would have sold even if they knew about Ticketus, hence no "practical result" of pretence

    That's the key question for the jury: Murray has stated on oath that he would not have sold had he know about Ticketus but Findlay clearly considers that the jury have heard sufficent evidence to expose that for the pile of bullsheet is palpably is.

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    Jury back in, verdict due imminently.....
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    Jury back in, verdict due imminently.....
    Drum roll..... Going for not guilty.

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    Not guilty on all charges
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Not guilty on all charges
    No great surprise there.

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    It's a majority verdict, don't know what the split was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Not guilty on all charges
    Had to be DF played a blinder.

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    Many backsides being kicked in Crown Office.Started with a full house of people to be charged.Ended up with one in the dock,an unprovable case badly presented with witnesses happily perjuring themselves and not saying what the Crown expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Not guilty on all charges
    Looking forward to seeing how this plays out now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    Looking forward to seeing how this plays out now!!
    Whyte about to make a statement outside the court....could be interesting.

    No statement now apparently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs Class View Post
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    Not guilty on all charges
    So, what are the implications of the verdict?
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    Excellent result.

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    Whyter than Whyte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    So, what are the implications of the verdict?
    Interesting to see if anyone held to account over huge waste of public money and could get very interesting now the reporting restriction have been lifted and people are free to report all that went on in the court.

    happy days.

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    Whyte now not going to make any comment outside court after all. Doleman tweeting that he'll be posting more on what went on in court that couldn't be reported until the case was over.
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    So, does Whyte get the old rangers assets back ? Or does he just own sDM,s ass ? Can he sue him ?

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    BREAKING NEWS: David Murray surrenders his knighthood to Donald Findlay.

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    A fix. SNP organised the whole thing. Brendan O'Flaherty was the jury foreman. The club was doing fine financially until Whyte took over.

    You don't believe those things? Get on to the Huns' fans' forums and they'll put you right. The stupidity is remarkable even by their standards.

    One of the bits of evidence I found interesting was that Lloyds Bank rejected futher loans because the business case supporting the request depended on qualification for the Champions League group for the next three seasons. It would be interesting to observe a parallel universe in which Rangers beat Malmo in 2011 and went on to the group stage. We might find how Whyte planned to profit from the deal.

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    Not Guilty on both charges.

    Bit late with that info
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballengeich View Post
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    A fix. SNP organised the whole thing. Brendan O'Flaherty was the jury foreman. The club was doing fine financially until Whyte took over.

    You don't believe those things? Get on to the Huns' fans' forums and they'll put you right. The stupidity is remarkable even by their standards.

    One of the bits of evidence I found interesting was that Lloyds Bank rejected futher loans because the business case supporting the request depended on qualification for the Champions League group for the next three seasons. It would be interesting to observe a parallel universe in which Rangers beat Malmo in 2011 and went on to the group stage. We might find how Whyte planned to profit from the deal.
    In respect of parallel universes, would also have been interesting to see what would have happened had Lloyds not taken over Bank of Scotland. BoS had been exceptionally lenient / generous in their support of Scottish clubs and I think Lloyds was aghast at what they took over and were immediately looking to significantly reduce their exposure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballengeich View Post
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    A fix. SNP organised the whole thing. Brendan O'Flaherty was the jury foreman. The club was doing fine financially until Whyte took over.

    You don't believe those things? Get on to the Huns' fans' forums and they'll put you right. The stupidity is remarkable even by their standards.

    One of the bits of evidence I found interesting was that Lloyds Bank rejected futher loans because the business case supporting the request depended on qualification for the Champions League group for the next three seasons. It would be interesting to observe a parallel universe in which Rangers beat Malmo in 2011 and went on to the group stage. We might find how Whyte planned to profit from the deal.
    Not far off. Lifted from their forum

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    questions have to be raised about the jury's integrity. Given that if you had any links to the Club whether that be season ticket, shares or family who work at Rangers you were not allowed on the jury as there would be a conflict of interest. They did not carry out any other checks to see what football tendencies they had.. For a big case like this there should have been an impartial jury brought in from another UK city..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbage East View Post
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    Not far off. Lifted from their forum
    Quote Originally Posted by hun

    questions have to be raised about the jury's integrity. Given that if you had any links to the Club whether that be season ticket, shares or family who work at Rangers you were not allowed on the jury as there would be a conflict of interest. They did not carry out any other checks to see what football tendencies they had.. For a big case like this there should have been an impartial jury brought in from another UK city..
    He'd probably been happy bussing them in from Belfast


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