Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Keith_M]

As a previous poster has already said, the revelations, and the embarrassment of Murray et-al, is great fun... but I still don't see how any of it helps Whyte's case.

[Moulin Yarns]

Email continues "Don't think the dealis perfect.. uncertain what alternative exists..bank attitude hardening afterpress coverage"

Findlay suggests "even if the Whytemodel was wrong, it was a plan" Murray "it wasn't our plan"Findlay "But it was a plan"

Findlay "You left the club to a groupof men who sat around waiting for the Sultan of Brunia to decide to buy aScottish football club"

Findlay "loyalty is admirable, butwhat had these men done to your football club, our football club" Endscross-examination

Murray tells Advocate Depute that he wouldnot have sold the club of he knew about Ticketus


Lady Stacey rules too late for a newwitness today. Jury sent home until Tuesday morning, court adjourns.


Over to the experts to untangle the web.

[CropleyWasGod]

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What is the case for Craig Whyte defrauding the club?

That he used the club's money to pay off the bank, when the deal was to use his own. In round terms, the club got way less than half of what they were expecting.

Those facts are not in doubt, IMO. There has already been a civil case (Ticketus v Whyte) to support that. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...s-8567084.html

However, whether the Crown are able to convince a jury (who, of course, should have no prior knowledge of Rangers, football or business issues) of that is another matter. Thus far, they haven't been doing that for me. Findlay is playing a blinder in dancing around the politics of it all, which will confuse the jury.

It's a long trial, though, and there will be plenty prosecution witnesses yet who should play their part. The Ticketus guys, the bank, Gary Withey and the Duff & Phelps guys.... they should be fun

[JeMeSouviens]

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As a previous poster has already said, the revelations, and the embarrassment of Murray et-al, is great fun... but I still don't see how any of it helps Whyte's case.

I think it boils down to:

SDM, the Old Huns etc claim they had a solid club and were carefully planning succession to secure the legacy of all things Hunnish but were hoodwinked by that nasty man Craig who fraudulently claimed off the radar wealth but turned out to be potless.

vs

Whyte will claim that SDM and the Old Huns were right up **** creek sans paddle and knew fine well he didn't have 2 beans to rub together but were so desperate they turned a blind eye and passed the parcel sharpish.

[ancient hibee]

Whyte's evidence will be that Murray knew all along but was desperate to get shot of Rangers so that he could rescue a banking relationship with Lloyds for his main business which was also in soapy.He may also try the line that he and Murray had discussed Murray still being involved if the club went into admin.which would get rid of King and his debt and Murray coming to the rescue.

[Brunswickbill]

Thanks Golden Fleece. Keep up the good work.

[Keith_M]

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I think it boils down to:

SDM, the Old Huns etc claim they had a solid club and were carefully planning succession to secure the legacy of all things Hunnish but were hoodwinked by that nasty man Craig who fraudulently claimed off the radar wealth but turned out to be potless.

vs

Whyte will claim that SDM and the Old Huns were right up **** creek sans paddle and knew fine well he didn't have 2 beans to rub together but were so desperate they turned a blind eye and passed the parcel sharpish.

Cheers.


Only thing is, I thought the trial was about whether or not Whyte defrauded Ticketus. Although I have to agree to being a bit confused by the whole thing by now :-)

[Jack Hackett]

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Thanks Golden Fleece. Keep up the good work.

Seconded

[jabis]

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Seconded

Thirded,cheers

[jacomo]

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I think it boils down to:

SDM, the Old Huns etc claim they had a solid club and were carefully planning succession to secure the legacy of all things Hunnish but were hoodwinked by that nasty man Craig who fraudulently claimed off the radar wealth but turned out to be potless.

vs

Whyte will claim that SDM and the Old Huns were right up **** creek sans paddle and knew fine well he didn't have 2 beans to rub together but were so desperate they turned a blind eye and passed the parcel sharpish.

Nice summary!

[snooky]

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I think it boils down to:

SDM, the Old Huns etc claim they had a solid club and were carefully planning succession to secure the legacy of all things Hunnish but were hoodwinked by that nasty man Craig who fraudulently claimed off the radar wealth but turned out to be potless.

vs

Whyte will claim that SDM and the Old Huns were right up **** creek sans paddle and knew fine well he didn't have 2 beans to rub together but were so desperate they turned a blind eye and passed the parcel sharpish.

I'll go with option 2

[Seveno]

Findlay's cross examination of Murray suggests that he might be suggesting that Whyte was defrauded by Rangers !

[CropleyWasGod]

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Findlay's cross examination of Murray suggests that he might be suggesting that Whyte was defrauded by Rangers !

Yup.

He's blowing blue smoke all over the place.

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[Kato]

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Findlay's cross examination of Murray suggests that he might be suggesting that Whyte was defrauded by Rangers !

Vipers nest that place, built on bile.

[CathroMustStay]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topi...r-****/?page=1

"Dinnae dare bring up racism, whit are ye a taig bead rattler, we arra peepo!"

Vile, cretinous, bigoted sub-human scuum.

[660]

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http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topi...r-****/?page=1

"Dinnae dare bring up racism, whit are ye a taig bead rattler, we arra peepo!"

Vile, cretinous, bigoted sub-human scuum.

Apparently according to the other thread about the boy who ran on the pitch, it's our fault for invading the pitch after the cup final last year which encouraged people it was ok and it was the Celtic players fault for....yep "goading" them. Delicious Hun tears.

[cookin_on_gaz]

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http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topi...r-****/?page=1

"Dinnae dare bring up racism, whit are ye a taig bead rattler, we arra peepo!"

Vile, cretinous, bigoted sub-human scuum.

The entire site is nothing but poison and I am pretty sure at least half the posters could be charged with the hateful vile they come out with.

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[cookin_on_gaz]

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The entire site is nothing but poison and I am pretty sure at least half the posters could be charged with the hateful vile they come out with.

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But I guess to be fair a large number of people have liked the post that says racism is out of order.

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[CathroMustStay]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topi...ve-cover-song/

The responses to this thread, and the song in question, are those from sewer rats.

Actually no, that's very offensive to sewer rats.

[Ozyhibby]

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http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topi...ve-cover-song/

The responses to this thread, and the song in question, are those from sewer rats.

Actually no, that's very offensive to sewer rats.

There is a good chance that Saturday will not be the worst day in 2017 for Sevco fans. And it's no less than they deserve.


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[Since90+2]

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http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topi...ve-cover-song/

The responses to this thread, and the song in question, are those from sewer rats.

Actually no, that's very offensive to sewer rats.

Even by Sevco standards that thread is unbelievable. I've genuinely never read such open hatred of a religious group on the internet before.

[brog]

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Even by Sevco standards that thread is unbelievable. I've genuinely never read such open hatred of a religious group on the internet before.

They're so clever, they actually ask for the link to be put up! To think, these people have a vote!

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Even by Sevco standards that thread is unbelievable. I've genuinely never read such open hatred of a religious group on the internet before.

I kind of regret clicking on the link; I've never seen anything like it. It's hard to believe actually.

[CropleyWasGod]

I had a "discussion" recently with a friend about the club scene in Trainspotting2.

Her view was "well, it was funny, but hardly true to life, is it?"

Can't wait to show her this.....

[Is It On....]

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Even by Sevco standards that thread is unbelievable. I've genuinely never read such open hatred of a religious group on the internet before.

They are probably proud of the scene in T2.

[Ozyhibby]

Pic of the fan having a dash at Scott brown on sat. Those new volunteer stewards they have at Ibrox seem a bit scarce?


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[Moulin Yarns]

Celtc unveil their new shirt sponsors

[Captain Trips]

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Pic of the fan having a dash at Scott brown on sat. Those new volunteer stewards they have at Ibrox seem a bit scarce?


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Just protecting the The Rangers players is all.

[Is It On....]

Some on The Den think that Murray is coming back to save the day 😂. Now worth £150m again apparently...after ditching >£200m of debt when Murray International went bust.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/topi...e-park/?page=8

The legendary words of 'goaded' and 'great restraint' appear. And I'm pretty sure someone was wanting Griffiths booked for pushing the fan?!?