Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[Dashing Bob S]

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More than £40k a week the pair, plus bonuses.

They may get rid of Barton in January if (and it's a big 'if') the price is right, but Krancjar's injury takes him to the end of his contract so that's £16.5k/wk from now until May regardless.

Devastating stuff.

Maybe Warburton better not count on a Christmas card from the Lying King

[Hibzbollah]

I never thought I'd utter these words, but "nice touch from Mike Ashley..."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1..._legal_battle/

[Ozyhibby]

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I never thought I'd utter these words, but "nice touch from Mike Ashley..."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1..._legal_battle/

The quality of Ashley's lawyers does not inspire confidence he can win in court.


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[magpie1892]

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Don't clubs insure their players against long term injury? Not saying this is actually the case with these cheapskates, but it's available...in which case it could be a bonus for them, as his wages would be covered.

It really does depend. Newcastle, who are a model of financial probity compared to sevco even had to pay Barton's wages when he was in jail because they had not insured against his lack of availability.

I'm purely guessing here but on balance I would say that the hun are having to pay Krancjar. If he were covered by insurance, I'm sure we'd already have seen some sort of self-congratulatory piece in the Daily ******, fed (no pun intended) to Jackson by Monsieur Creosote at level5.

[Seveno]

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It really does depend. Newcastle, who are a model of financial probity compared to sevco even had to pay Barton's wages when he was in jail because they had not insured against his lack of availability.

I'm purely guessing here but on balance I would say that the hun are having to pay Krancjar. If he were covered by insurance, I'm sure we'd already have seen some sort of self-congratulatory piece in the Daily ******, fed (no pun intended) to Jackson by Monsieur Creosote at level5.

It is not the norm for clubs to insure their players against injury.

[southsider]

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It is not the norm for clubs to insure their players against injury.

Yes, but to get said insurance would mean paying the premiums and we all know DK doesn't do paying invoices.

[Future17]

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The quality of Ashley's lawyers does not inspire confidence he can win in court.

Who are his lawyers?

[magpie1892]

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It is not the norm for clubs to insure their players against injury.

More often than not, yes. Plenty exceptions though. I know a current St Mirren player who asked to be paid his insurance premium because his contract was so poor (maximum wage at St Mirren is £600/wk) and when it comes to the hun, they might well have left it to chance as they have no concept, despite liquidation, of how to run a business at a break-even point.

They don't even have WiFi, FFS.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Who are his lawyers?

Sue, Grabbitt and Runn.

[Wee Effen Bee]

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It really does depend. Newcastle, who are a model of financial probity compared to sevco even had to pay Barton's wages when he was in jail because they had not insured against his lack of availability.

I'm purely guessing here but on balance I would say that the hun are having to pay Krancjar. If he were covered by insurance, I'm sure we'd already have seen some sort of self-congratulatory piece in the Daily ******, fed (no pun intended) to Jackson by Monsieur Creosote at level5.

Like it

[southsider]

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Sue, Grabbitt and Runn.

Who were hopeless. One judge remarked on how poorly prepared their case was. (DK v MA).

[magpie1892]

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Who were hopeless. One judge remarked on how poorly prepared their case was. (DK v MA).

They didn't really have a case last time (it was a vexatious complaint, he just wanted King to spend Christmas in jail because that's how someone like Ashley gets his kicks) so he paid for the lawyer's equivalent of a three pack of Donnay socks.

He's got a case this time - one he's favourite to win - and his lawyers will be prepared accordingly.

[jgl07]

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It really does depend. Newcastle, who are a model of financial probity compared to sevco even had to pay Barton's wages when he was in jail because they had not insured against his lack of availability.

I am surprised that Newcastle didn't see that one coming.

They had employed Duncan Disorderly previously! He would have been with Everton when he did stir though?

[ancient hibee]

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It really does depend. Newcastle, who are a model of financial probity compared to sevco even had to pay Barton's wages when he was in jail because they had not insured against his lack of availability.

I'm purely guessing here but on balance I would say that the hun are having to pay Krancjar. If he were covered by insurance, I'm sure we'd already have seen some sort of self-congratulatory piece in the Daily ******, fed (no pun intended) to Jackson by Monsieur Creosote at level5.

Surely Barton's contract would have a clause saying that he had to be available to play which would mean he wouldn't have to be paid while in jail.

[Hibzbollah]

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The quality of Ashley's lawyers does not inspire confidence he can win in court.


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That may be true, however, the challenge adds to the whole sense of crisis and lengthens the deadline on any resolution to the merchandise funding battle. Sevco could really do without this now.

[magpie1892]

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Surely Barton's contract would have a clause saying that he had to be available to play which would mean he wouldn't have to be paid while in jail.

You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But we didn't.

Barton was getting £65,000/wk from Newcastle while he was in jail.

[HoboHarry]

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You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But we didn't.

Barton was getting £65,000/wk from Newcastle while he was in jail.

Barton says otherwise in this article......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ve-prison.html

[magpie1892]

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Barton says otherwise in this article......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ve-prison.html

Well he would say that, wouldn't he?

Someone's lying, and frankly I trust Barton as far as I can throw him. The man's a proven liar, has a history of extreme and unprovoked violence and general recidivism. Look how he's behaving now; I know it's the hun he's taking the piss out of, and it's hilarious, but this is not a trustworthy man.

[silverhibee]

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You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But we didn't.

Barton was getting £65,000/wk from Newcastle while he was in jail.

Was that his basic wage at Newcastle?

Why did Newcastle just not sack him and save paying him anything.

[magpie1892]

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Was that his basic wage at Newcastle?

Why did Newcastle just not sack him and save paying him anything.

Yeah.

Couldn't or we would have. Watertight contract engineered by one Willie MacKay - who is still his agent now. This is why the hun can't sack him for calling his boss a c-word and fighting with Halliday.

Crazy, I know.

[Bostonhibby]

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Yeah.

Couldn't or we would have. Watertight contract engineered by one Willie MacKay - who is still his agent now. This is why the hun can't sack him for calling his boss a c-word and fighting with Halliday.

Crazy, I know.

Panic buy in haste, repent at leisure, hopefully for the length or value of his contract.

Whose idea was it to sign so many over the hill wage collectors on such expensive and long term deals? If this was happening at our club I'd want them out.

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[jacomo]

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Well he would say that, wouldn't he?

Someone's lying, and frankly I trust Barton as far as I can throw him. The man's a proven liar, has a history of extreme and unprovoked violence and general recidivism. Look how he's behaving now; I know it's the hun he's taking the piss out of, and it's hilarious, but this is not a trustworthy man.

I you taking Ashley's side here? That must hurt

[silverhibee]

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Yeah.

Couldn't or we would have. Watertight contract engineered by one Willie MacKay - who is still his agent now. This is why the hun can't sack him for calling his boss a c-word and fighting with Halliday.

Crazy, I know.

So when playing, he couldn't have been far away from picking up £100k p/w with win bonus and appearance money. Mental.

These things happen on the training ground all the time, players fighting and managers getting involved as well, so I would reckon the Rangers would struggle to sack him for that, Joey will still be able to get a round of golf every weekend for the time being as he will have been told to stay away from Ipox on match days as well, mind you the new club could have him training at Murray Park while the Rangers play there games.

[CyberSauzee]

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You'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But we didn't.

Barton was getting £65,000/wk from Newcastle while he was in jail.

It's good to hear the 'other' side of the story.

By other I recall a snippet from Barton's autobiography that after he came out of prison he was getting treatment at the Sporting Chance clinic on the south coast. He had to be there overnight I think as terms of his probation, but still had to get to training. Anyway, Ashley offered him his helicopter to get to training in Newcastle each day. Barton accepts, then rails at the bill Ashley hands him for the transport.

Makes for a good story, until you have pointed out he was on £65k a week and Ashley knew he could afford it. Typical Barton, thick as shig pit not knowing he will pay for it.

[magpie1892]

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I you taking Ashley's side here? That must hurt

I'm not taking his side so much as I know Barton's lying. It was a while ago and I'm really only interested in the fine work Barton is doing at sevco now!

[magpie1892]

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It's good to hear the 'other' side of the story.

By other I recall a snippet from Barton's autobiography that after he came out of prison he was getting treatment at the Sporting Chance clinic on the south coast. He had to be there overnight I think as terms of his probation, but still had to get to training. Anyway, Ashley offered him his helicopter to get to training in Newcastle each day. Barton accepts, then rails at the bill Ashley hands him for the transport.

Makes for a good story, until you have pointed out he was on £65k a week and Ashley knew he could afford it. Typical Barton, thick as shig pit not knowing he will pay for it.

I've not read the book but was aware of the helicopter story. Sums both parties up quite neatly.

[Topographic Hibby]

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Yeah.

Couldn't or we would have. Watertight contract engineered by one Willie MacKay - who is still his agent now. This is why the hun can't sack him for calling his boss a c-word and fighting with Halliday.

Crazy, I know.

Madness of modern pro footballers....

If I called my boss a clueless c.... and decked a colleague, my feet wouldn't touch the ground legally. Out on my ear with little or no liklihood of any appeal or financial recompense.

As you say, crazy stuff.

[snooky]

So Willie McKay is JoJo's agent?
Hmmmm.... where have I heard that name before?

[Ozyhibby]

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Madness of modern pro footballers....

If I called my boss a clueless c.... and decked a colleague, my feet wouldn't touch the ground legally. Out on my ear with little or no liklihood of any appeal or financial recompense.

As you say, crazy stuff.

Sports teams are different. Training ground bust ups are both common and desirable. If they are not happening at a club then it's likely the club is not training with the intensity required to maintain performance.
I believe that Bartons bust up happened during an 'honesty' discussion following the 5-1 defeat. You can't call such a session then sack someone for being honest in their views.


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[Geo_1875]

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Sports teams are different. Training ground bust ups are both common and desirable. If they are not happening at a club then it's likely the club is not training with the intensity required to maintain performance.
I believe that Bartons bust up happened during an 'honesty' discussion following the 5-1 defeat. You can't call such a session then sack someone for being honest in their views.


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The Rangers and honesty? I doubt they're aware of the concept.