Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[wpj]

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Some very interesting 'MINIMUM Home Attendances' though, over a 15 year-period between 1970-1985-86 - 85-86 saw the arrival of the Lawrence Group and the big-money which in turn, increased the number of 'Loyals' who DIDN'T attend previously when they 'Played-within-their-means' - I.E won nowt !!

http://www.fitbastats.com/rangers/cl...attendance.php

A home gate of 4,000 in the 1971-72 season is puzzling for 'One of the biggest clubs in the world'

Maybe there was a transport strike stranding all the "loyal" in their far flung towns and villages

[Peevemor]

Celtic weren't that much better. When McCann rebuilt Parkhead their crowds really picked up, but throughout the 80s I remember going through there (watch yer car fur ye mister) and attendances were generally 18-25k.

[Keith_M]

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Celtic weren't that much better. When McCann rebuilt Parkhead their crowds really picked up, but throughout the 80s I remember going through there (watch yer car fur ye mister) and attendances were generally 18-25k.

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[Peevemor]

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[Geo_1875]

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Maybe there was a transport strike stranding all the "loyal" in their far flung towns and villages

More likely the ferries weren't sailing that weekend.

[rodhibs55]

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[Moulin Yarns]

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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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I think what is happening is that they are realising that they will never rival Celtic again. The gap is too big and its structural.
Even once the retail deal ends in 6 years they won't even be close to matching Celtics income. And if there are to be 6 mores years of Celtic winning everything in sight then crowds at Ibrox will be back down to 80's levels.
They needs a massive investment of free cash over a sustained period of time to try and bridge the gap. I just don't see where it's coming from.


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Chris Sutton said that in one of the papers last week, much as I hate to say it but, Celtic should be hammering home the advantage they have over The Rangers and reduce them to a spent force once and for all.

[Canon Hannan]

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Chris Sutton said that in one of the papers last week, much as I hate to say it but, Celtic should be hammering home the advantage they have over The Rangers and reduce them to a spent force once and for all.

Hutchie, the nearer Celtic get to 10 in a row the worse their fans will behave. They are not a happy bunch and the Sevco Board are going to suffer from huge fan pressure in the next few years to stop the record being beaten. It's great fun to watch as the No Surrender brigade are struggling to cope!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Hutchie, the nearer Celtic get to 10 in a row the worse their fans will behave. They are not a happy bunch and the Sevco Board are going to suffer from huge fan pressure in the next few years to stop the record being beaten. It's great fun to watch as the No Surrender brigade are struggling to cope!

I concur.

[lord bunberry]

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Celtic weren't that much better. When McCann rebuilt Parkhead their crowds really picked up, but throughout the 80s I remember going through there (watch yer car fur ye mister) and attendances were generally 18-25k.

I think Celtic were at it when it came to crowd numbers back then. I remember going through there a few times and thinking there was a pretty big crowd in the stadium, only for the attendance to be put at around 20k. There was no way the stadium was only a third full.

[Peevemor]

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I think Celtic were at it when it came to crowd numbers back then. I remember going through there a few times and thinking there was a pretty big crowd in the stadium, only for the attendance to be put at around 20k. There was no way the stadium was only a third full.

Possibly, but I also remember going there and the jungle being the only part of the ground looking half busy, with the rest, including the stand, pretty empty.

[Liberal Hibby]

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Old Rangers lowest average attendance in the last 50 years was 17,969 in season 1982-1983 which was just below their average for the previous season of 18,519. 1981-1982 also saw a home league attendance of 6,000 versus St. Mirren.

These were the only two seasons that Old Rangers average attendance fell below 20,000 since the mid 1930's and their average gate, old and new, has not been under 32,000 for thirty years. Its only been under 40,000 once in the last 25 years. (32,798 in 2014-2015)

The other point at the time was that Fergie's Dons were averaging similar and Celtic were not much in front, so the vast budgetary advantage the OF have now didn't exist.

If Rangers do return to these sort of attendances then it's not just a matter of being miles behind Celtic it's that they're in the chasing pack with the rest.

[worcesterhibby]

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Not about time we closed this thread.Supposed to be hibs web site

We could close the thread down, but someone would just buy the name of the thread and restart it and claim that it was the original thread

[Is It On....]

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Actually, the only time they hung out the sold-out signs in the early 80s was against Celtc.

The attendances against the likes of Hibs were pretty dire.


e.g. My first ever visit to Ibrox was in October 1982 and I just looked up the attendance: 16,250 (TBF, the 250 was probably the number of Hibs Fans)

Was that when Gordon Rae scored?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Was that when Gordon Rae scored?

23 October 1982 was when we lost 3-2. Jackie Mac scored an OG from 20 yards.

I know this cos it's the day my oldest was born 😀

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[fat freddy]

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We could close the thread down, but someone would just buy the name of the thread and restart it and claim that it was the original thread

Inspired post, Charles Green would be proud

[northstandhibby]

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We could close the thread down, but someone would just buy the name of the thread and restart it and claim that it was the original thread

You could rename it THE Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread.

[Is It On....]

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That actually reminds me of Motherwell...chewinthechews..

[Bostonhibby]

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We could close the thread down, but someone would just buy the name of the thread and restart it and claim that it was the original thread

Excellent, this is precisely why threads like this need to remain open

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[magpie1892]

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Celtic weren't that much better. When McCann rebuilt Parkhead their crowds really picked up, but throughout the 80s I remember going through there (watch yer car fur ye mister) and attendances were generally 18-25k.

Midweek League game v. Killie as the Celtc fans were really starting to push the Kellys and a group of supporters stood outside the turnstiles around the ground with them little clicker things to count the folk going in. Crowd: 8,005. Published crowd: 16k or so. The irony of Celtc overstating their attendances was not lost on most people.

Uni mate of mine took me to Celtc v. Koln with the 'hoops' 2-0 down from the first leg. Celtc won 3-0 to go through on aggregate and the place (which held about 60,000 at the time) was absolutely rammed. Following morning: Att: 35,000. Hmm....

[JimBHibees]

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Midweek League game v. Killie as the Celtc fans were really starting to push the Kellys and a group of supporters stood outside the turnstiles around the ground with them little clicker things to count the folk going in. Crowd: 8,005. Published crowd: 16k or so. The irony of Celtc overstating their attendances was not lost on most people.

Uni mate of mine took me to Celtc v. Koln with the 'hoops' 2-0 down from the first leg. Celtc won 3-0 to go through on aggregate and the place (which held about 60,000 at the time) was absolutely rammed. Following morning: Att: 35,000. Hmm....

Can remember we played them at Parkhead in the cup and looked about 40k crowd reported as 25. Laughable.

[magpie1892]

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Can remember we played them at Parkhead in the cup and looked about 40k crowd reported as 25. Laughable.

Dave King has wet dreams about those days. Poor sod realises he's not going to get a single penny back of the £20m he *****ed on them when Murray was in charge. No idea why he's still there - end must be in sight, surely.

[Keith_M]

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Was that when Gordon Rae scored?

The only thing I remember about that day was that I went into the Main Stand with about 20 guys from our bus, but the rest of the Hibs Support (only a few hundred) was in the Broomloan Stand Front and when we left, there was a crowd of Rangers Fans waiting for us and we had to be escorted to the bus by a large number of Polis.

We weren't a bunch hooligans trying to look tough but a mixture of older guys and kids, who had the misfortune to go in to the wrong part of the stadium by accident.

[Keith_M]

It looks like The Rangers and Celtc are having a slight disagreement over money.


After the The Rangers Fans smashed up toilets at Celtc Park, Celtc sent them a bill for the repairs and, guess what, it hasn't been paid.

So, when Celtc were due to hand the money over for the tickets they sold their fans for the last game at Ibrox, they did so... minus 35k for the unpaid repair bill.

The Rangers are now planning a tit-for-tat measure for the next game at Celtc Park, for damage they allege Celtc fans did to Ibrox at Hogmanay



They're like a couple of schoolkids.

[Is It On....]

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It looks like The Rangers and Celtc are having a slight disagreement over money.


After the The Rangers Fans smashed up toilets at Celtc Park, Celtc sent them a bill for the repairs and, guess what, it hasn't been paid.

So, when Celtc were due to hand the money over for the tickets they sold their fans for the last game at Ibrox, they did so... minus 35k for the unpaid repair bill.

The Rangers are now planning a tit-for-tat measure for the next game at Celtc Park, for damage they allege Celtc fans did to Ibrox at Hogmanay



They're like a couple of schoolkids.

Except one school kid doesn't want to pay for the damage..not paying your bills is something Old /The Rangers (and their Edinburgh cousins) are very good at.

[JeMeSouviens]

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It looks like The Rangers and Celtc are having a slight disagreement over money.


After the The Rangers Fans smashed up toilets at Celtc Park, Celtc sent them a bill for the repairs and, guess what, it hasn't been paid.

So, when Celtc were due to hand the money over for the tickets they sold their fans for the last game at Ibrox, they did so... minus 35k for the unpaid repair bill.

The Rangers are now planning a tit-for-tat measure for the next game at Celtc Park, for damage they allege Celtc fans did to Ibrox at Hogmanay



They're like a couple of schoolkids.

Although apparently one of the kids (4 year old) has been unable to provide any evidence of damage.

[Keith_M]

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Although apparently one of the kids (4 year old) has been unable to provide any evidence of damage.

That's not true, there's a video doing the rounds of Celtc Fans lighting Scented Candles in the toilets.

I'm sure that must count as vandalism...

[Geo_1875]

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Although apparently one of the kids (4 year old) has been unable to provide any evidence of damage.

I'm sure they caused 30 years worth of wear and tear to all 4 stands.

[Keith_M]

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I'm sure they caused 30 years worth of wear and tear to all 4 stands.

I think they've sent a bill of £5M to Celtc for the damage their fans did to the Stand Roof.