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    Has Pat Fenlon spoken anywhere after the game? If not maybe he should be and not sending Billy Brown out although i can imagine hes peed off and not wanting to speak, but he should really be speaking


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    He is probably back at his house thinking what have I let myself in for.

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    He probably wanted to address the game with the players in the changing room ASAP given our plight. Whether its a bollocking or a different approach is anyone's guess. He's probably still in there with them.

    Im sure he will be able to get us out of trouble but whether he gets support in what he needs to do is another matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergy Pie View Post
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    He probably wanted to address the game with the players in the changing room ASAP given our plight. Whether its a bollocking or a different approach is anyone's guess. He's probably still in there with them.

    Im sure he will be able to get us out of trouble but whether he gets support in what he needs to do is another matter.
    I wish i was as confident as you ,he sighns a right back and plays him in the midfield worrying

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenberviehibee View Post
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    Has Pat Fenlon spoken anywhere after the game? If not maybe he should be and not sending Billy Brown out although i can imagine hes peed off and not wanting to speak, but he should really be speaking
    Maybe he was utterly hacked off at our amateur performance, and would be unable to keep a lid on his anger, I know I would be seething with all players bar a few if I was PF
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanton10 View Post
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    I wish i was as confident as you ,he sighns a right back and plays him in the midfield worrying
    I see your point but we don't see the players everyday and get an idea of whats probably best for the game based on various factors. He's new to the club and will probably make more mistakes in the line up than we're comfortable with but we have to trust him. There's no other alternative at this point.

    I get worried when managers keep persisting with the same bizarre decisions each week. let's hope he doesn't go down that road.

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    If I had been in Paddy,s shoes I would have let Billy take the after match interview while I would have been on the blower to every agent I could get my hands on to get a couple of central defenders in asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanton10 View Post
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    I wish i was as confident as you ,he sighns a right back and plays him in the midfield worrying
    Behave yourself mate. I'm guessing you weren't at Dunfy last week?

    The lad came on and looked very strong in an attacking role.

    You'd have slaughtered the manager if he played him at right back today and we'd got beaten.

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    Calderclown signed a midfielder in towel then played him midfield or not at all. Dublin knows we need a right back, signs him then plays him midfield. why sign players for the positions we are weak in, then play them elsewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Behave yourself mate. I'm guessing you weren't at Dunfy last week?

    The lad came on and looked very strong in an attacking role.

    You'd have slaughtered the manager if he played him at right back today and we'd got beaten.


    Eh! He came on for the last 15 mins did he not? I'd like to think he'd be fit enough to play 15 mins.

    He looked off the pace today, which is what we don't need. We need players to be up to the pace of the game now.

    This is not a criticism of him, obviously give him time, but we need players that can hit the ground running and will make a difference. Tell you what though, I wont hold my breath!!!

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    After match press

    Anything from PF

    Am I reading too much into BB doing Beeb after match? PF has done them all since his arrival...was he too annoyed? was he worried he would same something he would regret...

    Could he conceivably be about to chuck it

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Calderclown signed a midfielder in towel then played him midfield or not at all. Dublin knows we need a right back, signs him then plays him midfield. why sign players for the positions we are weak in, then play them elsewhere?
    I dont understand why Francomb played in midfield either, Hart is not the answer at full back, baffling stuff indeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northfield Hibby View Post
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    Eh! He came on for the last 15 mins did he not? I'd like to think he'd be fit enough to play 15 mins.

    He looked off the pace today, which is what we don't need. We need players to be up to the pace of the game now.

    This is not a criticism of him, obviously give him time, but we need players that can hit the ground running and will make a difference. Tell you what though, I wont hold my breath!!!
    Yes, he did come on for the last 15 mins or so. What has that got to do with it? My point was when he came on at Dunfy he looked like a bit of a player. Particularly in the last third. Which was refreshing to see.

    He looked athletic, strong, skillful, intelligent. Gave us something extra.

    Everyone looked off the pace today.

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    Listening to BB, he literally said without actually saying it that the whole defense was gash and needs replacing, amazing that CC who was a Scottish international has left us with such a poor bunch of defenders. Hart past it.....Stephens still a rookie......Hanlon never big enough to be a CH ......O'Hanlon, well just crap.......and Booth a decent left midfield at best but never a full back in a million years.

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    sorry Mods didn't see managers response thread...which is on same theme...feel free to move

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenberviehibee View Post
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    Has Pat Fenlon spoken anywhere after the game? If not maybe he should be and not sending Billy Brown out although i can imagine hes peed off and not wanting to speak, but he should really be speaking
    I'd rather he was in the dressing room screaming at useless players than offering pointless statements to the media.

    For whatever it's worth, Brown clearly conveyed the attitude the management have for today's showing, so I don't see the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Yes, he did come on for the last 15 mins or so. What has that got to do with it? My point was when he came on at Dunfy he looked like a bit of a player. Particularly in the last third. Which was refreshing to see.

    He looked athletic, strong, skillful, intelligent. Gave us something extra.

    Everyone looked off the pace today.


    Your point was about Francombe, hence the reason I mentioned him. He didn't do anything worth while during the game, his first touch wasn't great and he was subbed early first half. The point I'm making is we need players that can fit into the side right away, not players that are not ready yet.

    I know what everyone else can bring to the side, which isn't much, so I was hoping that Francombe would hit the ground running. It's obvious that he needs games, and that's not what we need!!!

    The worrying thing also is that Fenlon's other signing Doyle started on the bench. Again we need players to start right away, not on the bench!

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    Listening to BB, he literally said without actually saying it that the whole defense was gash and needs replacing, amazing that CC who was a Scottish international has left us with such a poor bunch of defenders. Hart past it.....Stephens still a rookie......Hanlon never big enough to be a CH ......O'Hanlon, well just crap.......and Booth a decent left midfield at best but never a full back in a million years.
    Weirdly, CC, Hughes and to an extent Mowbray all had some pretty shocking defences despite spending their careers as defenders!

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    I was told the players were still in changing room 45mins after the game... Maybe pat way laying into the player :/

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    Weirdly, CC, Hughes and to an extent Mowbray all had some pretty shocking defences despite spending their careers as defenders!
    It is amazing, we used to have the worst goalies in the country, now it`s the worst back four.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stanton10 View Post
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    I wish i was as confident as you ,he sighns a right back and plays him in the midfield worrying
    You really don't like him, do you

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    Just watched BB on Hibs telly, if he sounded seething on the radio, he looks like he wants to kick the s*** out of someone in the interview.
    If Pats in he same mood then the players will be get shot blasted in the dressing room

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    PF would be spitting blood, that is why he didnt do the interview.

    I think that was the death knell for our back 4 partnerships save booth, and Hanlon a place on the bench.

    I'd rather see a completely new back four.

    I dont think PF is the type of guy to suffer this defence too much longer, we simply cant score 3 goals to win a match. We should have won this 2-0 or 2-1 worst case. Our defence cost us today. But we will rise up to the fight!!!

    Hibs till I die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn View Post
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    Maybe he was utterly hacked off at our amateur performance, and would be unable to keep a lid on his anger, I know I would be seething with all players bar a few if I was PF

    I don't think he's got the Henry halls to go mental at them mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I don't think he's got the Henry halls to go mental at them mate.
    And how would you know that ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    I don't think he's got the Henry halls to go mental at them mate.
    Bizarre thing to say when it's pretty common knowledge that he might be wee but you don't mess with him
    This is how it feels

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    He can lock them in the dressing room, slaughter them , beat them up but they will still be sh*** and there is nobody else to play at the back. Maybe he should hypnotise them into thinking they are Puyol Terry Vidic etc as nothing else is working and it looks like nobody else wants to come to us

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    Just watched BB on HTV and listened to his post-match interview on BBC Sport. He looks like someone's just sh*t in his kettle and I don't blame him. He was effin' raging!!

    Today's result, and more pertinently the performance, has as been said above, signalled the end of a few players careers in green and white unless they buck up their ideas pronto.

    To win two games and show resilience in those games (minus the quality which is evidently lacking) would have boosted Fenlon and the backroom staff's thoughts on the current squad. To go out today and launch us back to square one with a defensively inept performance will have enraged them more today than it would had we lost the previous two games.

    They showed in the past two games that they could dig out a result. Today, through sheer lack of anticipation, concentration and resilience (and of course the obligatory lack of quality) they've gone and undone the work of the past two games.

    Awful, just f******g awful, Hibs.

    Petrie, Lindsay, Farmer, whoever; barge into wee Paddy's office first thing on Monday morning with a blank piece of paper and a pen and let him write down who he wants. Once he's done that, walk out his office, back into your own and pick up the phone. And do not hang up until you've secured verbal agreements to sign those players. Once you've done that, get in your company car and get their signature on the dotted f*****g line.

    I watched the game today and it was powderpuff. There was glimpses of quality and a fair bit of effort but there was no shape, no cohesion, no anticipation, no awareness, no real sign of unity or same-song-sheet-singing. Just 11 players desperately huffing and puffing and hoping someone would bail them out. Not. F******g. Good. Enough.

    Get two, yes two, centre-backs in, get a left-back in, play Francomb at right back. There's your defence sorted. Once you've done that, bring in Jim Goodwin to sit in front of the back four with Stevenson which will release Osbourne to do his thing with the shackles off him defensively which hampers his all-round game. Once you've done that, procure one, possibly even two wingers who actually do what wingers f******g do. And that's hugging the touchline, demanding the ball and once they've got it actually doing something with it. Once you've done that, sit Gary O'f*****gConnor down and tell him in no uncertain terms that if he wants to be remembered as a footballer he'd better sort his sh*t out and stop floundering around the park displaying the first touch of a sex offender and actually show everyone week in, week out what he's undoubtedly got in his armoury. If he stares at the ceiling during this dressing down or goes against your ultimatum, punt him and bring in an all-action striker who gets an erection at the mere thought of ragging two hoofing centre-backs around the pitch for 90 minutes to allow Griffiths and Doyle to exploit the gaps.

    Once you've done that, tell them to stop using East Mains as a f*****g leisure centre and explain to them clearly what it means to not only be a professional footballer but to what it means to play for Hibs.

    This club is on the precipice now. Everything is in place, is it asking too much to have a core squad who would snap their granny's cruciate if it meant picking up points on a regular basis?

    Take no prisoners, pull no punches and drag this club upwards.

    Over to you, Hibernian employees.
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