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Thread: Shambles today
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15-01-2012 03:17 PM #61Doing the 2013 Edinburgh half Marathon for McMillan it would be awesome if anyone fancies sponsoring me, http://www.justgiving.com/colin-smith1875 ,go on make a fat man run
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15-01-2012 04:25 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-01-2012 05:02 PM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Having said that, why the the wee stand at the side wasn't open from the start is beyond me. Everyone knew we'd have a big support over.
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15-01-2012 05:04 PM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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15-01-2012 06:48 PM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 08:40 AM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 08:43 AM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 08:55 AM #68This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 09:00 AM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Pish example to use just like your Heysel attempt!
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16-01-2012 09:03 AM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 09:19 AM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 09:22 AM #72This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 09:27 AM #73
I'm so glad everyone who went to east end park on saturday, managed to get in and out safely. The stress you had to put yourself through must have been so uncomfortable, some may be seeking help today as we speak.
I'd personally think twice about putting myself through that again, i dont think i could ever get over someone sitting in my seat?
It would scar me for ever.
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16-01-2012 09:32 AM #74
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Looking on the brightside, wasnt it a fantastic away crowd, not sure how the Scotsman can say 2000 travelling fans, looked nearer 3500/4000 to me.
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16-01-2012 09:45 AM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Its not an unreasonable expectation to be able to come to a game and take a seat. If you buy a ticket with a seat number in order to sit with some of your mates or family its not unreasonable to expect to be able to actually sit together in those seats is it? Its not the fault of the people who are asked to move, but if youve got kids with you should you be expected to sit far away from them as there are only single seats left? (As I was once told to do by a plukey we fud at Tannadice as Jim McLean pointed and laughed from his Directors box - there is a pattern of incompetence here). Maybe those people should just accept it as you seem to suggest?
Your rather high handed "people need led by the hand" is fine if it was relevant. Its not. People weren't being inept or pathetic or stupid. They were trying to watch a game of football at a football ground, and were met with a blank wall of incompetence. If nothing else, its hugely indicative of the general contempt with which football fans are treated by the police. Nowt wrong with bumping our collective gums about this.Last edited by Twa Cairpets; 16-01-2012 at 11:15 AM.
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16-01-2012 10:06 AM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We moan because nobody follows the club away, then when we do get a big support, we still moan. And some folk then spout on about how having a couple of hundred extra folk in a stand somehow makes a standing area a non starter??? I know football fans will moan about inept stewarding or policing, yet most folk said it was the best away day in years.
Personally i hope we have to put up with this inept kind of policing for a the foreseeable future.
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16-01-2012 10:20 AM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What exactly has that got to do with what happened on Saturday?
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16-01-2012 10:30 AM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 10:38 AM #79This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The thread title is "shambles today" - which is not an over reaction just what it was on Saturday.
The bigger picture is that this is not the 1st time it's happened and with Hibs fans at East End Park. With the game the way it is right now and Scottish Football struggling - the fan / customer should be able to go to a game with minimal hassle / disruption.
I mentioned in this thread earlier - there were families - with 2 or 3 kids (the future of our support) getting there early 2pm - then finding a vacant seat - for some person to turn up at 2.55pm to say they had a ticket for that seat - meaning the dad and 3 kids were walking around missing the start of the game and not knowing what was happening or where they were going to watch the game having been in the ground for an hour already.
Common sense organisation and learning from previous games would have avoided this all - and Hibs supporters arguing with each other which is happening on this thread and happened on Saturday when fans turned up with tickets and others were unaware certain seats had been reserved.
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16-01-2012 10:46 AM #80This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
GGTTH
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16-01-2012 11:18 AM #81
just noticed on the dunfy official site that the game on saturday was the last game for PATG, home/away fans will have to purchase tickets at kiosks from now on
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16-01-2012 11:30 AM #82This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
says that the capacity of the East Stand is just over 3000 - so I reckon we must have had close to 4000 there on Saturday right enough
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16-01-2012 11:36 AM #83This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Let me think............I mentioned standing, seating and stadium safety, there that about sums it up. I see it relating if you don't then fine that's fair enough.Last edited by Scouse Hibee; 16-01-2012 at 11:40 AM.
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16-01-2012 12:49 PM #84This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Tickets were sold beforehand for specific seats and then not respected by the stewards. That led to some arguments and fans being moved to the other stand. The organisation was a shambles.
What exactly would have been the difference if the area in question was terracing? (other than the fact there could be no argument over specific seat numbers)
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16-01-2012 01:03 PM #85This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2012 01:13 PM #86This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Obviously I can't pass comment on the company as they operate under the auspices of G4S, but there are still a lot of the same faces involved.
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16-01-2012 01:22 PM #87
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We arrived about 2.30 on Saturday and were queueing for about 15 minutes when a steward told us the second stand was opening but there would be no catering facilities. We went round and got in no problem. Initially I thought good job done with kick off slightly delayed. On reading the posts here it appears as though fans were still getting in to the original stand after it was full. Why didn't they simply re-direct everyone to the other stand?
Despite Blackpool Hibs flipant take on things, that is serious. (Forget how Hillsborough started? Too many folk in the same terracing.) I know that we normally won't be in a position like this but for the 3rd time this season Hibs fans have been exposed to potential danger due to incompetent policing/stewarding.
What if there had been a fire at Motherwell? We couldn't make out the announcements and were left standing there. It appeared that the stewards/police didn't know what to do either. There was no leadership at all.
According to fans the steps at Tannadice were getting blocked for a while creating a high risk (I wasn't there so can't comment myself).
Now Saturday's shambles. Once again a lack of leadership was very evident. In addition, another point which no-one has commented on is the fact that no stewards were in front of the Hibs fans in the wee stand. Infact ,there were very few stewards in that stand. In the event of an emergency what would have happened?
A pattern has developed and it is important these problems are addressed before someone gets hurt.
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16-01-2012 01:45 PM #88This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
According to you it was just a case of moving along. What and getting the kids to sit on a seat by themselves?
It was a shambles and i was perfectly correct in raising the issue for discussion.
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16-01-2012 01:58 PM #89This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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