After keeper is sent off for booting an ajax fan!
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21-12-2011 09:36 PM #1
AZ Players leave pitch!
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21-12-2011 09:52 PM #4
All these pitch invading numpties look the same.
I can understand the GK knocking him onto the ground, but he shouldn't have persisted IMO. Let the relevant authorities do their jobs and get on with the game.
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21-12-2011 11:14 PM #6
fair play on the keeper.
The mug has run on the pitch trying to give him a kick, deserves a few boots himself.
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21-12-2011 11:56 PM #7
Keeper went well beyond the line of self defense and could well face legal action, let alone footballing consequences.
I've no time for these idiots who invade the field of play, especially when their aim is to injure players/officials, but the AZ keeper lost the plot.
No doubt that Ajax will be awarded the game, as AZ effectively failed to fulfill the fixture, following a legitimate red card under the laws of the game.Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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22-12-2011 01:56 AM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The keeper was at his place of work and would quite rightly be startled by someone invading his space never mind physically attacking him.
The whole incident took place over a period of around 6 seconds. You don't have a clue what's happening until much later on and people have fought on not knowing they have been fatally stabbed due to pure adrenaline.
Anything less than a replay would be an injustice. If anyone should be awarded the game it should be AZ...they were the ones who were physically attacked in another clubs ground...and if it comes down to it Ajax surely have a duty to ensure their safety.
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22-12-2011 03:34 AM #9
I (if I was the player in question) would argue that the 2 kicks that some say are over the score simply kept my attacker grounded 1 kick to the body and 1 to the legs does not seem over the top , the attacker has just run 30 yards to launch his attempted kick after all and could easily be in possession of a knife. Had he have booted the guys head twice my view may be different
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22-12-2011 06:06 AM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If Ajax are awarded that game it sets a really dangerous precedent in terms of what happens in light of a pitch invasion.Last edited by Part/Time Supporter; 22-12-2011 at 06:09 AM.
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22-12-2011 06:32 AM #11
I support the goalie the guy could have had a knife...also heat of the moment in self defence you have to go radge just in case...
I like Ajax too, what an erse of a guy
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22-12-2011 08:52 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Regardless, the game wasn't abandoned because someone invaded the pitch - the game was abandoned because AZ walked off the pitch after the referee quite rightly sent the keeper off. There's precedent for players being sent off after attacking people who invade the pitch and it's covered by FIFA's rules of the game under violent conduct:
A player who commits a cautionable or sending-off offence, eitheron or off the field of play, whether directed towards an opponent, a
team-mate, the referee, an assistant referee or any other person, is
disciplined according to the nature of the offence committed.Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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22-12-2011 09:00 AM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2011 09:16 AM #14
He was hardly laying into him, it was handbags at ten, two girly kicks to the shins isn't on a par with giving him a doing to the ribs and heid.
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22-12-2011 09:33 AM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2011 10:15 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2011 10:41 AM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That's the defence that would, and should, be used.
There is no way on earth that the guy on the ground should be getting any benefit of the doubt and deserved everything he got.
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They might well get fined for leaving the field of play but I'm sure they'd be willing to take a hit for that given the circumstances.
There is no way that AJAX getting the points for this game should even be considered, it should be replayed, and possibly even behind closed doors (or neutral venue).
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22-12-2011 03:09 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It was a Cup match!
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22-12-2011 03:26 PM #19
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I also remember Paul Hartley got booked a few years ago for kicking a ball that was going out of play (but hadn't crossed the line yet) to the keeper when he was warming up behind the goals. Same principle, since he came onto the pitch to do it.
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22-12-2011 03:36 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Jeez you have to wonder what the world is coming to...the guy ran onto the pitch with the clear intention of attacking the player, the player then defends himself and lands a few on the attacker...sounds like just deserts has been done.
For AZ then to have to play the match with 10 men because their keeper was attacked is the injustice here not the fact the attacker got a couple of kicks when on the ground.
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22-12-2011 04:03 PM #21
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The guy clearly jumps at the keeper, so as far as I'm concerned he's fair game after that; he was launching an attack, and made the first move.
Now, whether the keeper then goes a bit far in his defence is the question, he hits him to the ground, then hits him again, keeping him there. It's a shame that the law of the land isn't that if someone attacks you for no reason whatsoever, you get to give them what they deserve. Certainly if that was this country the moron would be in court snivelling about the mental trauma he's been through...
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22-12-2011 04:08 PM #22
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BBC are reporting that the red card has been rescinded. The Dutch FA move quick, unlike certain other authorities I could mention.
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22-12-2011 05:25 PM #24
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22-12-2011 08:25 PM #25
Game goes to AZ as Ajax can't control their supporters. Any other decision makes the nutters start scheming.
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22-12-2011 09:22 PM #26
Had a wee debate about this with the wife over this...
Think its a bloke / wummin thing
But really the guy comes on from behind which I think is the key then he deserves what he took
Once we were in Curitiba a city in south brazil and one of these mimics came up from be hind me - you may have seen them in Barca copying people's mannerisms from behind well this guy got so close I felt something behind me I turned round and was about to smack him and he pulls a face and honks funny to watch but believe me that guy was seriously close to a broken nose. Now I'm pretty much a pacifist never looked for a fight in my life but I thnk knowing that crap happens in brazil I was primed
So I know how I might have reacted if it was me. So you can't really judge unless you've been put in a similar position.
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