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26-11-2011 07:37 PM #31
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26-11-2011 08:44 PM #32
So who are our coaches? Brown, evans, Thomson, Stevenson, fitness coach??? Video analysis??? scouting??? Sport science????
I don't know what each does, seems to me that there is a lot of deadwood at er/ htc.
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26-11-2011 08:51 PM #33
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Not a bloody lot by the looks of things.
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26-11-2011 09:15 PM #34
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[QUOTE=ScottB;3006713]Ultimately, our recurring problems have been a lack of fitness and making basic mistakes.
These issues strike me as the responsibility of the first team coaches no? Presumably they are working with the team on these basic areas, in which case they are doing a shocking job.
That things have been rotten since Collins left on that front, despite 4 managers and whole different squads of players says it all. New coaches please![/QUOTE
While I agree that coaching seems poor any worthwhile professional player should not need coaches to get him fit and stop him making mistakes.
The responsibility of the coaches is for the playing systems,the set plays and the balance of the team.In these areas they have failed.
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26-11-2011 10:30 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
In that regard you're giving your full backing to the coaching team.
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26-11-2011 10:41 PM #36
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26-11-2011 10:52 PM #37
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He picked the team a nad motivated the players I would have done that for £40,000 a year
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26-11-2011 11:03 PM #38
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I wouldane take drop in wages just to write up a team sheet.
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26-11-2011 11:12 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-11-2011 11:23 PM #40
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good guy, but bb gtf! nice man ye are
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26-11-2011 11:58 PM #41
I don't know if they are any good or not, but they are part of a sustained culture of failure, so Fenlon should get rid of them, bring his own guys whom he knows and trusts, so that he can hit the ground running.
This culture of failure probably starts in the boardroom, but PF doesn't have the power to get rid of Petrie and co, and they ain't standing aside.
So focus on what can be one and lets have a new back room staff and, in January, some new players and get moving up that table.
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27-11-2011 02:33 PM #43
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27-11-2011 07:06 PM #44
I have no idea what individual roles our various coaches play at ER & I suspect very few on this board do either. I'm now reading that Gareth Evans supposedly doesn't get on with certain players, big deal ( if true ), you could almost certainly apply that statement to a given coach at any professional team. Professional footballers have a very simple mantra, they really like coaches/managers who pick them evey week & they don't get on with those who don't pick them.
I agree PF should be given the opportunity to select his own backroom staff but the fact we've been crap for 3-4 years now doesn't automatically mean our current coaches etc are equally rubbish. Most crap teams still have one or 2 excellent or even outstanding players, eg George Best with NI. You don't throw them out because the team doesn't perform.
It may be our coaches are rubbish but we apparently had a poor AM last season & his team's now running away with the 1st division.
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27-11-2011 07:45 PM #45
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27-11-2011 07:57 PM #46
Can we get a coaching staff that can at least teach them how to take/ defend a throw-in and how to take/ defend a corner. Just doing some of the basics would make us a better time !
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28-11-2011 09:41 AM #48
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28-11-2011 09:43 AM #49
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I would be asking the players and coaches why yet another goal was conceded from a cross in from the left, leaving an opposition player unchallenged at the back post (St Mirren twice, Dunfermline, Saints, Killie). It's a constant problem which each player on the park should acknowledge and anticipate. Haber was unmarked so where was the right back/centre back marking. Why doesn't Stack anticipate the cross (which was not driven, more floated) and come off his line...........and why is the Saints player able to pick a cross despite Hibs players being near to him.....again, no Hibs player closing down quick enough.
Anticipation and urgency (work rate). Completely lacking for a whole 90 minutes in this Hibs side. When they switch off, we rightly get punished. And we switch off with alarming regularity.
I watched shaking my head at the recent Dunfermline game, where off all players, Junior Agogo was the only Hibernian player at a set piece to be shouting at players to pick up their man, get goalside, etc. Stack, O'Hanlon and Hanlon were quiet as church mice.
A very real team problem and for me, it shows splits in the camp. No togetherness, no cohesion, no shared responsibility. As I said last season, eleven individuals turning up and playing very much as individuals and not as a team unit.
This is what Pat Fenlon has to address immediately IMHO. They are good enough players at the end of the day. But they play as if they don't like each other. For some that may indeed be the case.
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Personally i'd like Fenlon to have his own staff, folk he trusts and feels happy working with.
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28-11-2011 10:54 AM #52
Maybe get the admins to change the title but Evans and Stevenson have been relieved of their duties.
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28-11-2011 10:57 AM #53
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Seems Pats already stamping down his mark. Interesting that BB is still here.
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and well done RP for backing him.....
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28-11-2011 04:19 PM #57
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Wonder if we'll be seeing changes in the scouting department as well.
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28-11-2011 08:52 PM #59
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