UEFA will be launching an investigation after Strathclyde Police reported several instances of "offensive chanting" to their match delegate during their match against Rennes.
The case is likely to be heard next month.
Lothian and Borders Police are also conducting their own investigation after many Celtic fans complained about pro-IRA chants being sung by their fellow fans during their match at Tynecastle last month.
Still "the best fans in the world", though, according to Peter Lawwell.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15706740.stm
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12-11-2011 04:23 PM #1
Celtic to face UEFA probe over IRA chants
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12-11-2011 04:26 PM #2
Good on uefa But what are Scottish governing bodies doing about these idiots that sing it EVERY week??? The sqaure root of f all!!!!!..Its time Celtc and Rangers were deducted points till the morons learn!!! But i wouldnt hold my breath.
Bigots the pair of them
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12-11-2011 04:34 PM #3
But it is their god given right as the down trodden masses of weegieland to sign about another countries troubles.
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12-11-2011 04:40 PM #4
It's a strange one.
I wish those morons wouldn't sing pro IRA songs, but is it actually against UEFA rules to do so?
Just because it offends doesn't mean it's illegal.
I'm offended by every song Hearts sing, but unfortunately, they have every right to sing them.
Having posed that question, I'll be pleased if UEFA do act against them.
Maybe we'll finally start dealing with the issue.
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12-11-2011 05:16 PM #5
Think the point is that they are bigots that have attached themselves to football clubs in the same way that casuals were thugs that did the same. Penalising them in a football way is almost irrelevant. In a parasitic relationship, I am not sure if the merit in punishing the host. I remember back to the eighties when the proscribed paramilitaries were not allowed to speak on TV so their words were read by actors. SKY and the others should do similar and speed it up like Pinky and Perky, like when you played an LP at 45rpm.
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12-11-2011 06:00 PM #6
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Interesting to note in the OP that it was Celtc fans themselves that complained to L&B Police.
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12-11-2011 06:33 PM #9
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I've long said that it would be UEFA to take the Old Firm to task, the SFA / SPL don't have the balls to do it (or maybe that's thinking too well of them, maybe they just don't want to) and I always thought that sooner or later, UEFA would have had enough and nail them to the wall.
Surely if UEFA start nailing them for things that our bodies should be anyway, they should start taking action against the SFA / SPL for not doing their duty?
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12-11-2011 06:34 PM #10
Rangers got into trouble for fans f the pope add-ons and the use of the word fenian in an anti catholic context as I understand it
Are Celtc fans pro provo chants anti-protestant? It will be interesting to see if that stands up in court.
We are at the stage now where the SFA should take the lead and ban any chants and banners of a political nature at Scottish football grounds unless authorised e.g. anti-racism. Fine clubs first then play matches behind closed doors then points deductions if it continues."Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.' - Paulo Freire
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12-11-2011 06:38 PM #11
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I am totally in agreement with the view that action should be taken by the SCOTTISH powers that be because this goes on every week, home and away by the Old Firm 'followers'.
Until we have points deductions, grounds closed, prosecutions and severe financial penalties this behaviour will continue and grounds will continue to empty.
Are you listening, SFL and SFA?
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12-11-2011 06:43 PM #12
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12-11-2011 08:06 PM #13
Who gives a ****! It doesn't offend me one bit because I don't listen to it, take any notice of it or if the truth be known even realise what they're singing. I go the games to watch the football, far too many folk getting hung up on what's being sung by the opposition fans.....total nonsense IMO.
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12-11-2011 10:56 PM #16
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Seems strange that Shamrock Rovers fans can travel to Spurs in huge numbers, give their team fantastic backing, sing their hearts out, and not resort to IRA chants/slogans (as far as I'm aware).
Is it because the Rovers and their fans really are Irish whereas some celtic supporters just wannabe?!?
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Fact is they live in a country where most people don't care about religion and the ones that do are often nice people who tolerate the other religions.
There are undoubtedly bigots but their archaic rubbish gets less and less relevant as time goes on.
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I don't see the difference between these Celtic fans singing and chanting in support of the PIRA and the Muslims who go about chanting in support of al Qaeda and other such groups.
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I actually remember commenting on that when I watched Shamrock Rovers play Spurs a few weeks ago. Every single song that I heard their fans sing was in support of their own team and not a single IRA song in sight. Despite the fact that they were playing in the capital city of the United Kingdom.
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13-11-2011 03:15 PM #21
Nothing will come of this due to the 'these songs refer to the 'ra' of the irish war of independence, not the 'ra' of enniskillen, omagh etc etc.' defence.
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But I reckon that the Scotland knows exactly what there idiots are all about. Furthermore their time, along with the bammers in the Rangers support, is up.
The tired excuse that it is somehow political just does not wash . It's not political at all - show me the manifesto!
What it is actually is vile, hateful cretinous ***** and the greater Scottish society is absolutely sick of it.
For too long we have tolerated the lunatic fringes of the Old Firm support like errant children.
Well no more. I back the Bill.
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Since the majority of Ireland did become a Republic its more of an issue for the Republicans in Northern Ireland. Glasgow is far more aligned to Beflast and other places in the north than Dublin.
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14-11-2011 09:40 AM #25
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Although I've always thought there is no difference in singing about someone being a bas**** or fat, or ugly, or needing glasses, or whatever. It might be making fun of someone but the inference is that there is something wrong with being the thing that is sung about.
Can't say any of these sorts of things bothers me which is why I never had any real agreement that the Skacel song was designed to be racist. Others woud argue that it doesn't matter and that if a refugee was to be offended that's what counts.
In this way if a gay person was bothered about the Hibs song then it would be homophobic.
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But surely you're missing the point.
Whether it's offensive or not is irrelevant, but if Celtc get a big fine then that's surely a good thing
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14-11-2011 12:38 PM #28
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that majority of celtic fans ive met sing these songs for a laugh and for purposes of winding people up (as can be seen on this thread). as well as that they are actually quite good songs some of them - celtic symphony has a great tune to it especially at the start.
Last edited by libernian; 14-11-2011 at 12:40 PM. Reason: cant be arsed getting into a massive debate about this.
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It's almost pantomime now because the law can't touch them and even the new laws that might get passed one day will be easily be dealt with by a reasonably skilled lawyer.
Ignore them and keep these threads for those who actually chant about hating other religious groups.
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