Club Release Statement regarding Colin Calderwood

**marinello59** · 05-07-2011 09:53 AM

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20...262950_2386569

**Hibstrooper** · 05-07-2011 09:57 AM

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http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20...262950_2386569

Well done to the club for stating its position.

Are they fighting a losing battle though?

Wee dig at Hughes in there too!

**Beefster** · 05-07-2011 09:57 AM

The best statement that I've ever seen come out of ER. To the point, factual and with a bit of emotion. Well done, Rodders. A shot across the bows of Nottingham Forest, Calderwood, McClaren and their agent.

As for this bit.....

"We have now stripped away the unworkable legacy saddled upon the Club by the previous incumbent."

Ouch.

***CallumLaidlaw*** · 05-07-2011 09:57 AM

Quite a strong statement from RP. And I like the mention of the photo, and only "official" approach.

No mention of the Mafia tho????

***Aldo*** · 05-07-2011 09:59 AM

TBH creating a smokescreen.

I want the best compensation we can get but whats the point in having a manager thats heart is not at the club....that for me causes doubt in his players minds as they will think he is not committed to the cause.

This will rub off on the players...yes the board has produced a statement but I doesnt wear with me....we are not stupid and we know that he is still the manager however he is a manager that is clearly not happy and that for me needs to be addressed

Producing a statement like this for me is pointless...we all know that they will back the man cause they hire him but lets get this sorted once and for all and when I hear it from CC then thats when I will be happy with the situation.

FWIW he is still going its just a matter of time (or when compensation is agreed)

My opinion.

***CallumLaidlaw*** · 05-07-2011 10:01 AM

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TBH creating a smokescreen. If its about the money Rodders (and I am a RP fan) then you should be ashamed.

I want the best compensation we can get but whats the point in having a manager thats heart is not at the club....that for me causes doubt in his players minds as they will think he is not committed to the cause.

Time for RP and the board to be honest with the fans and tell them exactly what is happening and not producing stats and yes he is still the manager of Hibernian Football Club. This is insulting TBH.

Rantish over

Reads to me that they are telling us exactly whats happening. Including when Forest made their only official phonecall.

**Cabbage East** · 05-07-2011 10:01 AM

He's going, we're just making things difficult. Fair enough, we have no obligation to release our manager so he can take a step down to a second tier league for a second tier position.

**pacorosssco** · 05-07-2011 10:02 AM

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'We have now stripped away the unworkable legacy saddled upon the Club by the previous incumbent. Colin has added to the core of the team he signed in January. Like every manager, he wants to continually adjust his squad - and the work goes on with seven weeks still to the end of the summer transfer window.'

Is this a dog at Yogi. Below the belt from Rod as he employed him and as I understand contracts at Hibernian are not handled by the manager. A poor article and as I take it maybe more an open letter to CC and Notts Forrest .

You cant take isolated results as form rest of the time was dire.

Poor statement for me by the club.

***LancsHibs*** · 05-07-2011 10:02 AM

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Looks like he may be staying. The quote about the 'Previous Incumbent' was a bit strong

**GloryGlory** · 05-07-2011 10:02 AM

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TBH creating a smokescreen. If its about the money Rodders (and I am a RP fan) then you should be ashamed.

I want the best compensation we can get but whats the point in having a manager thats heart is not at the club....that for me causes doubt in his players minds as they will think he is not committed to the cause.

Time for RP and the board to be honest with the fans and tell them exactly what is happening and not producing stats and yes he is still the manager of Hibernian Football Club. This is insulting TBH.

Rantish over

Do you know that for sure? Sounds to me like Hibs (and RP) haven't given up hope of persuading CC to stay - and maybe CC has given indications that he's not himself sure what his next step should be, stay or go. So maybe still all to play for!

**Beefster** · 05-07-2011 10:02 AM

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TBH creating a smokescreen. If its about the money Rodders (and I am a RP fan) then you should be ashamed.

I want the best compensation we can get but whats the point in having a manager thats heart is not at the club....that for me causes doubt in his players minds as they will think he is not committed to the cause.

Time for RP and the board to be honest with the fans and tell them exactly what is happening and not producing stats and yes he is still the manager of Hibernian Football Club. This is insulting TBH.

Rantish over

If Forest have only made one approach and it was rejected (unless you think Rodders is lying), what makes you think it about money? Maybe Rodders is telling the truth and they genuinely don't want to lose another manager?

Just because the press (and 'in the know' posters on here) have been saying that negotiations have been ongoing for weeks doesn't make it true.

**Hibstrooper** · 05-07-2011 10:02 AM

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TBH creating a smokescreen. If its about the money Rodders (and I am a RP fan) then you should be ashamed.

I want the best compensation we can get but whats the point in having a manager thats heart is not at the club....that for me causes doubt in his players minds as they will think he is not committed to the cause.

Time for RP and the board to be honest with the fans and tell them exactly what is happening and not producing stats and yes he is still the manager of Hibernian Football Club. This is insulting TBH.

Rantish over

I see it as the exact opposite actually. I think it is quite frank and honest giving a clear and strong indication of the clubs position.

**GloryGlory** · 05-07-2011 10:03 AM

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Looks like he may be staying. The quote about the 'Previous Incumbent' was a bit strong:eek:

Yes - wonder what that means. Players he signed? The way he conducted team affairs (e.g. training at EM)? The reports he gave to the Board? His lack of tactical knowledge? Some or all of the above?

**stevej** · 05-07-2011 10:04 AM

Wow

The mysterious third man we always assumed was Bill Beswick who always works with McClaren

Is your chairman guessing this is the agent - if not why describe him as the "mysterious third man" ?

If they do indeed share the same agent that explains a lot about what has been going on lately

**~~Saorsa~~** · 05-07-2011 10:04 AM

The current speculation is frustrating, but I know that every Hibernian supporter will be right behind the team and right behind the Hibernian manager.

Think that bit will be wishful thinking after this episode if that manager is still Calderwood

***Stevie Reid*** · 05-07-2011 10:07 AM

I'm not sure what to make of this tbh. I quite like the strong tone, but the dig at Yogi (however accurate it may be), is pretty classless - maybe Rodders is upset at Yogi speaking out about O'Connor and Sproule.

Strange also that the agent is getting blamed here - McLaren was on SSN last night speaking about Calderwood, and surely it wouldn't have taken much research to find that out.

The selective statistics are a bit naughty, Calderwood's record as Hibs manager is appalling thus far (though that certainly doesn't mean it can't improve) - I was happy for him to lead us into the new campaign as late as last week - I still think it's best that he goes. However, there is surely no chance of Alan Irvine being appointed the day after that statement was released.

***s.a.m*** · 05-07-2011 10:07 AM

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Reads to me that they are telling us exactly whats happening. Including when Forest made their only official phonecall.

Reads to me like someone's hacked Rod's account.

**Beefster** · 05-07-2011 10:07 AM

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Wow

The mysterious third man we always assumed was Bill Beswick who always works with McClaren

Is your chairman guessing this is the agent - if not why describe him as the "mysterious third man" ?

If they do indeed share the same agent that explains a lot about what has been going on lately

Rodders will have met the agent on numerous occasions so I'm fairly sure he will know for certain (and he's probably discussed it with Calderwood).

He'll have said 'mysterious third man' as a reference to all the speculation on the Web (with no-one knowing).

***silverhibee*** · 05-07-2011 10:07 AM

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The best statement that I've ever seen come out of ER. To the point, factual and with a bit of emotion. Well done, Rodders. A shot across the bows of Nottingham Forest, Calderwood, McClaren and their agent.

As for this bit.....

"We have now stripped away the unworkable legacy saddled upon the Club by the previous incumbent."
Ouch.

This will have more to do with what the incumbent has said since he has left the club in his interviews and time doing his bit with the BBC Sportsound, he is very bitter about losing the Hibs job, but he should never have got the gig in the first place.

***s.a.m*** · 05-07-2011 10:09 AM

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I'm not sure what to make of this tbh. I quite like the strong tone, but the dig at Yogi (however accurate it may be), is pretty classless - maybe Rodders is upset at Yogi speaking out about O'Connor and Sproule.

Strange also that the agent is getting blamed here - McLaren was on SSN last night speaking about Calderwood, and surely it wouldn't have taken much research to find that out.

The selective statistics are a bit naughty, Calderwood's record as Hibs manager is appalling thus far, though that certainly doesn't mean it can't improve. Was happy for him to lead us into the new campaign as late as last week - I still think it's best that he goes. However, there is surely no chance of Alan Irvine being appointed the day after that statement was released.

Doesn't communicate very often / has to cover all bases in one statement?

**Beefster** · 05-07-2011 10:09 AM

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This will have more to do with what the incumbent has said since he has left the club in his interviews and time doing his bit with the BBC Sportsound, he is very bitter about losing the Hibs job, but he should never have got the gig in the first place.

It's about time that the club starting responding to stuff like this too. It's all very well being professional but there comes a point when the club needs to defend itself.

**HUTCHYHIBBY** · 05-07-2011 10:10 AM

If nobody has been given permission to talk to the manager surely those bags of sweets he was offered could turn out to be very expensive!

**GloryGlory** · 05-07-2011 10:10 AM

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Wow

The mysterious third man we always assumed was Bill Beswick who always works with McClaren

Is your chairman guessing this is the agent - if not why describe him as the "mysterious third man" ?

If they do indeed share the same agent that explains a lot about what has been going on lately

Maybe that just Rod's touch of irony (or sarcasm). Meaning he's telling everyone that Hibs are well aware of what's been going on.

***Stevie Reid*** · 05-07-2011 10:10 AM

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If Forest have only made one approach and it was rejected (unless you think Rodders is lying), what makes you think it about money? Maybe Rodders is telling the truth and they genuinely don't want to lose another manager?

Just because the press (and 'in the know' posters on here) have been saying that negotiations have been ongoing for weeks doesn't make it true.

I think the creative use of the stats shows that Petrie undoubtedly doesn't want to lose Calderwood after the backing he has been given.

How anyone can complain about a lack of information or the truth after that statement is beyond me - this is entirely new ground for Hibs.

**marinello59** · 05-07-2011 10:12 AM

So despite all the bluster from Mclaren and others in the know no actual negotiation has taken place. It looks like Petrie has signalled it's time for the gloves to come off. I don't remember reading anything quite that strong on the Official Site before.

***SteveHFC*** · 05-07-2011 10:12 AM

I still want CC to go!

***Aldo*** · 05-07-2011 10:13 AM

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I see it as the exact opposite actually. I think it is quite frank and honest giving a clear and strong indication of the clubs position.

Troops..... the clubs position is that CC is still the manager.

From my view the position is that we have a manager who is apparently not happy at the club and is missing his family who live down south. There are possibly 2 clubs vying for his services and he has not yet come out and said he is commited to Hibs.

Yes he is STILL the manager however that for me is only on paper. I appreciate others opinions on this but it has taken the club what 10 days or so to come out with a statement... they ahve told us someone that we already know.....he is still the manager....my question is

For how long????

Lets face it we are all unhappy with what is going on and TBH this statement changes nothing for me.

I have a feeling the next time CC has anything to say to the press it will be to be confirmed as a new assistant manager.

**Andy74** · 05-07-2011 10:13 AM

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Reads to me like someone's hacked Rod's account.

Wow. Most unlike Rod and Hibs.

I'm a bit depressed that we might well have to keep him though!

***blackpoolhibs*** · 05-07-2011 10:15 AM

Petrie will have made the decision this has gone on too long. It needs to stop now, and they have to pay what we want. I dont want him managing Hibs next season, and this playing hardball could come back and bite us on the arse.

Calderwood wants to go, FFS he's had enough time looking at the sweeties to make his mind up.

They have to pay now, Calderwoods never going to get a fair chance back at Hibs, anyone who thinks he will is deluding themselves. The first time results go against us we all know the abuse he will get, there's no point denying it?

This for me is petrie telling them, both Calderwood and Forest times up, make your decisions now.