Agggh, yet ANOTHER use of that phrase!
Could anybody cheer me up a bit and tell me:
a) When Hibs last weren't going though a transition period.
b) When they think this transition period is ever going to end, if at all.
c) What exactly it is Hibs are going to 'transition' into.
Will it be like a Caterpillar turning into a butterfly?
Or is it like a spicy curry, being 'transitioned' by your Intestines, cos I don't like the thought of the end product of that one bit! For one thing, it doesn't sound that much different to what I've been watching the last few seasons.
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20-05-2011 10:21 AM #1
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20-05-2011 10:41 AM #4
We were in a transitional period when we last won a trophy. Since then we have become a club with a completed stadium and training academy - ok, people may be sick of hearing it, but it's true.
Last time we weren't in a period of transition was under Alex Miller and many wanted him out.
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20-05-2011 11:10 AM #5
"Transition Period" is merely a nice way of saying "Going through a bit of a pish spell". Except that this particular Pish Spell seems to have lasted three seasons...
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20-05-2011 11:27 AM #7
Almost as bad as 'evolution not revolution'. I am convinced we are going to be ganting for years and years. Once youve accepted that, supporting Hibs gets easier.
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20-05-2011 11:30 AM #8
Post Bosman we are in a perpetual transitional period.
Like Motherwell with their smaller support and smaller budget.
High turnover in managers and players.
Top six. CIS Cup semi finalists. Scottish Cup Finalists.
No excuses Hibs. We are underperforming.
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20-05-2011 11:37 AM #9
I think its something that many football fans are going to have to get used to.
Players careers are getting longer thanks to better fitness levels and much improved recovery from serious injuries. It is now strange to see a player retiring at 32/33 whereas when I started watching Hibs very few players played well into the 30's.
As a result the market is full of unattached players of all positions, ages and abilities. The clubs can now offer shorter contracts worth less money knowing that the players options are far more limited than they might have been a few years ago.
Managers too are spending less time with clubs and have had to try and build a side for a single season rather than long term. Look at Hibs over the last few years, any time we have a manager who has a good spell he is linked with all sorts of jobs and in the same way half a dozen poor results calls into question his position at the club. Why should they look long term or build a side for the next man?
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20-05-2011 12:20 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I recall all this 'transitional period' talk when Williamson came in, and it's never stopped since!!
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20-05-2011 12:27 PM #11
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I believe that the transition period will end when a manager takes us to the next level.
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20-05-2011 12:34 PM #13
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20-05-2011 12:38 PM #14
Hibs are constantly in transition because we can't seem to appoint a manager and stick with him. Hibs fans like to believe the next manager will be better than the last.
The new manager then seems to believe that a bunch of new players will be better than the ones he inherits
The Board seem to buy this bollocks strategy and sign a shedload of new players for the manager, often at a cost of ending the old contracts
So we end up constantly 'In Transition'
Of course if we had a Board that actually understood football they would say to a new manager. "Make a better fist of the players you inherit. If you do we MAY sign another player for you. But if you don't you can bolt!!"
But we don't so we will remain constantly 'In Transition'
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20-05-2011 02:23 PM #17
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20-05-2011 02:57 PM #18
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In the market we operate these days it is going to always be a hit or a miss. We cannot sign the finished article, be it a manager or a player, so we get guys who are amitious and hopefully have the talent to match that ambition or players whose careers have stalled or have come off the rails and looking to get back on.
Vaz Te, Riordan, Murray, Stokes, Miller, Palsson spring to mind in that category.
Or we sign plyers who might be able to give us a season or two in the twilight of their careers.
The most obvious being Sauzee, the most recent De Graff.
If they do well they will probaly move sooner rather than later. If they dont do well they are here longer and the manager gets pelters cos it didnt work, probably the sack after the support turns on him.
If the signings do work the manager is hailed as a messiah and sombody offers him 10 times the wages and budget that we can.
Either outcome and Rod gets it tight anyway.
That is football at Hibs level today and tomorrow and the next day.
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20-05-2011 10:16 PM #20
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I can't recall the term 'transitional period' being used much when i was a youngster at ER. We always consoled ourselves in times of adversity with the line "... aye, but we've got a lot o' good laddies coming through."
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21-05-2011 12:14 AM #21
This is the season Hibs come into their own.
As said before, finally all our facilities are up to date and modernised so no need to worry about upgrades etc.
Relatively low debt, long term mortgages are all we have IIRC.
Another crop of talented youngsters coming through the ranks: Booth, Wotherspoon, Handling, Welsh, Horner
Im looking forward to next season
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21-05-2011 05:48 AM #22
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However, like you, I am looking forward to the new season and have high hopes.
But then again, I always do.
Then it starts.
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21-05-2011 06:20 AM #24
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Difficult to see any transition whereby we spend 'one pound less than we bring in' and that that has any 'upward spiral' anywhere near it! Rod's the man though!
The best transition we can hope for would be in the Boardroom IMHO.
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21-05-2011 06:39 AM #26
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It's the way Farmer operates his companies in that key personnel are directors, which is his perogative.
Both Rod and STF are getting on a bit now so lots of peoples dreams will come true soon enough.
It is only then that we will see and if, at that time, we are standing on the concourse of the Camp Nou awaiting the arrival of the teams for the 2020 champions league final between Hibs (the favourites) and some other nonentity like AC Milan. Then I will ply you with strong drink and concede you were right all along.
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21-05-2011 06:41 AM #27
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