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    British League Cup?

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    "Some other proposals included in the SPL's strategic plan include:
    • The national team's Fifa ranking to improve from 66th to 15th within five years
    • The SPL's coefficient ranking to improve from 16th to 10th in five years"
    Can't see that happening.

    Although(doubt many will agree) i think a British league instead of the Cis cup would be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralbin View Post
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    "Some other proposals included in the SPL's strategic plan include:
    • The national team's Fifa ranking to improve from 66th to 15th within five years
    • The SPL's coefficient ranking to improve from 16th to 10th in five years"
    Don't forget;

    • Broadcasting revenues to increase by 50% in five years


    All three sound like a bunch of school children planning playground domination from a treehouse.
    I plan on the winning the lottery within 5 years

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    A British League is the ultimate answer but we would lose the national team so it's unlikely to ever happen.

    A British League Cup would be great but it would almost certainly be seeded and England's big teams would be unlikely to take it seriously. But it would only be good for Hibs if the fans buy into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    A British League is the ultimate answer but we would lose the national team so it's unlikely to ever happen.

    A British League Cup would be great but it would almost certainly be seeded and England's big teams would be unlikely to take it seriously. But it would only be good for Hibs if the fans buy into it.
    I would say that anything British-based, including the introduction of a British League Cup, would likely spell the end for the Scottish national team. I believe there's already people within FIFA who wish to see an end to the independent teams for the countries that make up the UK and I would say that a move like this would bring that issue to the surface again.

    Apart from anything else, I don't see that England's teams would be interested in this proposal in the slightest and I think it's a complete non-starter.

    The governing bodies in Scotland need to work on improving the game in Scotland without having to join up with England.

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    imagine if the most british of british clubs, the mighty glesca rangers, were barred from playing in a british cup because of there bigotry/sectarianism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
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    A British League is the ultimate answer but we would lose the national team so it's unlikely to ever happen.

    A British League Cup would be great but it would almost certainly be seeded and England's big teams would be unlikely to take it seriously. But it would only be good for Hibs if the fans buy into it.
    Why would we loose the national team though?

    There are Canadian teams in the MLS but there is still a USA and Canadian National team.

    Also, look at cardiff and Swansea!! That hasn't resulted in Wales losing their national team.

    Never understood that theory.

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    Never understood that theory.
    I think it's scaremongering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritchie View Post
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    Why would we loose the national team though?

    There are Canadian teams in the MLS but there is still a USA and Canadian National team.Also, look at cardiff and Swansea!! That hasn't resulted in Wales losing their national team.

    Never understood that theory.
    They're both sovereign nations. We're not.

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    Why would we loose the national team though?

    There are Canadian teams in the MLS but there is still a USA and Canadian National team.

    Also, look at cardiff and Swansea!! That hasn't resulted in Wales losing their national team.

    Never understood that theory.
    Canada is an independent nation, Scotland isn't.

    As for Cardiff and Swansea, Wales doesn't have a professional league system (Scotland does) and there's always been an agreement that those two clubs (along with Wrexham) could play in the English league system.

    There's a lot of people within FIFA, and also people who come from autonomous areas around the world who aren't allowed to play full international matches and become members of FIFA, who look at the situation in the UK and see England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland having their own independent football teams, despite none of them being independent nations and places like the Basque region or Catalonia, who are effectively in a similar boat to Scotland etc, are excluded from being members of FIFA.

    If Scottish/English teams were to set up a Pan-British League Cup tournament, I believe these people would start to lobby for the separate national teams in the UK to be scrapped and for the UK to be represented at FIFA/UEFA sanctioned tournaments by one team.

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    Interesting idea yes - will it happen... probably not due to England leagues not needing Scotland as much as Scottish leagues needing England's teams.

    Still not happy about the 10 team idea - step in the wrong direction - have made my view on here several times before.

    Regarding the points in the article - from BBC website...

    "Some other proposals included in the SPL's strategic plan include:

    The national team's Fifa ranking to improve from 66th to 15th within five years - Can't see this happening with the way the league is right now and development of players

    The SPL's coefficient ranking to improve from 16th to 10th in five years explain how we plan to achieve this ?

    Broadcasting revenues to increase by 50% in five years where is this moeny going - equal between all league teams?

    The Scottish Football Association to make payments to clubs when players are on international duty more money to the bigger teams ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Hibee View Post
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    Interesting idea yes - will it happen... probably not due to England leagues not needing Scotland as much as Scottish leagues needing England's teams.

    Still not happy about the 10 team idea - step in the wrong direction - have made my view on here several times before.

    Regarding the points in the article - from BBC website...

    "Some other proposals included in the SPL's strategic plan include:

    The national team's Fifa ranking to improve from 66th to 15th within five years - Can't see this happening with the way the league is right now and

    development of players


    The SPL's coefficient ranking to improve from 16th to 10th in five years explain how we plan to achieve this ?

    Broadcasting revenues to increase by 50% in five years where is this moeny going - equal between all league teams?

    The Scottish Football Association to make payments to clubs when players are on international duty more money to the bigger teams ?
    But if SKY sees something in the idea you can bet the English clubs will be interested. Something that might give SKY more interesting live Summer football?

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    Probably had the ideal opportunity to do this a few years back when Coca Cola sponsored both League Cup competitions but guess what, nothing happened.

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    league cup wud be good...

    tho dont know if english clubs wud be up for it.. then again the engtlish league cup until the final round is pretty meaningless. also think english footy has peaked, pretty sure germany will be the best soon

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    Rangers on EUFA sectairn charges.

    Manchester needing rebuilt.

    The only way I can see anything British happening would be if it excluded those clubs that qualify for Europe – namely the OF.

    Then there may be a problem of the other Scottish club(s) that did qualify for Europe would not want to play in it because the English / Welsh / NI / Ireland games might be most cost effective with a greater prospect of progression. [Actually I quite like the sound of that ]

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    As much as it would be great to have an British Cup could you imagine the possibility of crowd trouble!!

    Imagine us at home to Leeds Portsmouth Or Milwall or even worse away!!

    still would be a cracking trip am sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Hibee View Post
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    Interesting idea yes - will it happen... probably not due to England leagues not needing Scotland as much as Scottish leagues needing England's teams.

    Still not happy about the 10 team idea - step in the wrong direction - have made my view on here several times before.

    Regarding the points in the article - from BBC website...

    "Some other proposals included in the SPL's strategic plan include:

    The national team's Fifa ranking to improve from 66th to 15th within five years - Can't see this happening with the way the league is right now and development of players

    The SPL's coefficient ranking to improve from 16th to 10th in five years explain how we plan to achieve this ?

    Broadcasting revenues to increase by 50% in five years where is this moeny going - equal between all league teams?

    The Scottish Football Association to make payments to clubs when players are on international duty more money to the bigger teams ?





    The question should be where is the money coming from?


    The PWC accounts of the SPL august 2010, what the SPL received on media and tv deals,collectively, was £13mill, whilst EPL clubs received £45mill each!


    So to increase our broadcasting revenues by 50% in 5 years, that would be.............. £19.5 mill unless Ive got that totally wrong



    The British League Cup is a way to increase the SPL profile south of the border and to tap into the loads of money thats swilling about down there


    Only problem is why would they want to?

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    Final vote to be mid may. I think its about time we started telling hibs what we think about a ten team league

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith View Post
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    Final vote to be mid may. I think its about time we started telling hibs what we think about a ten team league
    Only a few games left to voice our thoughts on it.

    Now a British League Cup, now that would be good!!!

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    Too many games as it is. The only way I see it working is to carry on till we get to the last 16 in Scotland and England then draw it from there. Good incentive fir a smaller Scottish club to maybe draw a Man U or Chelsea.

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