Rob Jones

[Hakim Sar]

Jones was both good and bad. Had good streaks of form but always caught ball watching and charging about like a headless chicken. Caused panic for our goalies. If he was 5'7 he'd have been useless.

On positive side he was passionate, good in the air, scored some vital goals for us, and was more productive than destructive.

Think we have had better centre halves though... Fenwick and smith spring to mind immediately.

Think some people see rob jones like Ivan sproule. Caught up a bit in the emotional sentiment of a fans favourite who could be pi5h at times

Why you laughing at me?
This doesn't need to be a problem.

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Just seen that winner against the yams on the way to cis glory

[Dashing Bob S]

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f'n booo owl puns are tricky. Anyhow, i reckon he'll turn heads.

The only thing that concerns me, is that given his role in John Collin's demise, he doesn't ruffle too many feathers in the dressing room.

[LaMotta]

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Rubbish. Fenwick, Hughes, Hunter, and Gary Smith were ALL much better players than Jones. Actually, so was Ian Murray when HE played at CH.

He's a limited player with one real talent - good in the air.

(But at 6' 7" it would be scandalous if he wasn't.)

He's slow. He has limited positional sense. He played havoc with our goalkeepers (who weren't that good to start with, admittedly). He isn't a talker - so why on earth Mowbray made him captain I'll never know. He was technically very limited - remember Brewster tying him in knots in the ICT game we won 1-0 with a first-minute Fletcher penalty? All the grace and elegance of a ruptured duck, that day.

And that performance was repeated ad lib most times I saw him.

The idea that Jones was the dominating leader who won us the League Cup in 2007 is also rubbish. He had guys like Brown, Whittaker, Murphy, Fletcher and Benji (really playing for once) around him - that game was won in midfield by Brown and Stevenson. He played his part, and i don't take that away from him. His goal was important, and impressive.

But the best CH at Hibs in thirty years?

Yer 'avin a larf.

Rubbish

Fenwick - One good season with Sauzee playing beside him - as soon as Sauzee was finished Fenwick was a nightmare. Better than Jones - No chance.

Hughes - Centre half that was in a Hibs team that got relegated - need I say any more?

Hunter - A constant in the side that couldn't stop Robbo or beat Hearts for over FIVE years

Gary Smith a decent enough player but lets not forget he played in the defence that shipped 12 goals against Hearts in 3 games one season, getting sent off twice in the process. Again looked good beside Sauzee - who wouldnt? A better ball playing defender no doubt, but a better centre half - not for me.

Murray - cant comment as i missed the whole season he played at CH as i was away.

I think you are the one having the laugh with those suggestions old chap - but then as you say its all about opinions There is no denying Jones wasnt the greatest footballer in the world - but you paint a very bizaare picture of Jones clearly based on some kind of personal dislike for him.

I stand by my suggestion that he has very little competition for best centre half in 30 years, (I didn't actually say he was in case you need your spooctacles checked) and even if your suggested players were candidates, then there is STILL not much competition.

[Gala Foxes]

Jones looked at fault with both Southampton goals, the first he jumped with the strike for a header, striker won it easily, 2nd he was caught out of position.

That said it was his first game for a team that is in freefall

[Steve-O]

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Depends how you want to build your team. I prefer centre-backs to be quick and mobile. Jones was neither - the best you can say is that he was a bit quicker over the ground than Colin Murdock. But then, so am I, and I'm 61 and 20% overweight.

"Not keen on him" doesn't quite do my feelings about him justice, I'm afraid. Didn't like him at all. Or Hogg, come to that. I think they both began to get found out when Whittaker and Murphy left - and Brown, and a few others as well.

However, it's all about opinions, right?

It's just that your opinion is plainly wrong if you don't think Rob Jones was good at Hibs.

[Hibbyradge]

Having seen him on the highlights last night, I don't think moving to Wednesday was a wise move.

[lapsedhibee]

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f'n booo owl puns are tricky

To wit:

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i reckon he'll turn heads

[basehibby]

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He didn't make the grade at Scunthorpe. Not good enough.

Not good enough for Scunthorpe - Aye right!

[Hibbyradge]

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Not good enough for Scunthorpe - Aye right!

Why else would he have been forced to drop down a division?

[basehibby]

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Why else would he have been forced to drop down a division?

Some folk have a very over inflated opinion re the quality of the English League and this assertion is symptomatic of that mind set IMO.

Having watched Rob Jones play for the Hibees for two years, he clearly IS good enough for Scunthorpe - and that opinion was confirmed last season by Jones' status as a regular in the Scunthorpe team which exceeded all expectations by surviving in the Championship.

I don't know exactly why Jones is moving on to the Owls (and don't really give two hoots ) but the assertion he "isn't good enough" just reeks of someone dying to have a pop for the sake of it IMO.

[Disc O'Dave]

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The only thing that concerns me, is that given his role in John Collin's demise, he doesn't ruffle too many feathers in the dressing room.

Was his best form playing under Tawny Mowbray?

[jdships]

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It's just that your opinion is plainly wrong if you don't think Rob Jones was good at Hibs.

That's simply a matter of opinion

[iwasthere1972]

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Having seen him on the highlights last night, I don't think moving to Wednesday was a wise move.

You wit wasn't wasted.

[steakbake]

He's on loan there. He's still Scunthorpe registered.

[joebakerforever]

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Jones looked at fault with both Southampton goals, the first he jumped with the strike for a header, striker won it easily, 2nd he was caught out of position.

That said it was his first game for a team that is in freefall

Suspect Rob's career peaked at Hibs and is now on the slide.

His aerial prowess was his main asset and yesterday he was easily out-jumped by a smaller player.

Looks like his physical fitness is diminishing with age.

[Kaiser1962]

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Jones looked at fault with both Southampton goals, the first he jumped with the strike for a header, striker won it easily, 2nd he was caught out of position.

That said it was his first game for a team that is in freefall

Was it Jones he (Megson) was referring too when he made the remark about a player "not doing his job"? Not seen the highlights but heard his interview.

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Suspect Rob's career peaked at Hibs and is now on the slide.

His aerial prowess was his main asset and yesterday he was easily out-jumped by a smaller player.

Looks like his physical fitness is diminishing with age.

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Was it Jones he (Megson) was referring too when he made the remark about a player "not doing his job"? Not seen the highlights but heard his interview.

He was mightily impressive in those highlights, right enough.

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Rubbish

Fenwick - One good season with Sauzee playing beside him - as soon as Sauzee was finished Fenwick was a nightmare. Better than Jones - No chance.

Hughes - Centre half that was in a Hibs team that got relegated - need I say any more?

Hunter - A constant in the side that couldn't stop Robbo or beat Hearts for over FIVE years

Gary Smith a decent enough player but lets not forget he played in the defence that shipped 12 goals against Hearts in 3 games one season, getting sent off twice in the process. Again looked good beside Sauzee - who wouldnt? A better ball playing defender no doubt, but a better centre half - not for me.

Murray - cant comment as i missed the whole season he played at CH as i was away.

I think you are the one having the laugh with those suggestions old chap - but then as you say its all about opinions There is no denying Jones wasnt the greatest footballer in the world - but you paint a very bizaare picture of Jones clearly based on some kind of personal dislike for him.

I stand by my suggestion that he has very little competition for best centre half in 30 years, (I didn't actually say he was in case you need your spooctacles checked) and even if your suggested players were candidates, then there is STILL not much competition.

Fenwick was IIRC on appearance money, which meant he hardly played after Sauzee left. When he was playing regularly he was a solid, sound centre-back. His usual partner at CB was either Hughes or Smith, btw.

Just because Hughes played in a relegation side doesn't automatically make him a bad defender - he also played in the promotion side and in the first season after promotion. Remember the 6-2 game?

Smith was a much under-rated player who played on well into Blobby's time - a consummate professional who got on with the job he was asked to do and did it well. He was well into his 30's before he retired and slowing up. He still wasn't as unwieldy - or as naive - as Jones could be..

Gordon Hunter had his limitations (as do all players) but again - just because we failed to beat Hearts over that period doesn't make him a bad player - I wouldn't like to have had to watch Jones marking (or attempting to mark) Robbo. grodon was much, much better than you make out.

Murray's weakness was a lack of height - he and Caldwell were too easily beaten in the air. On the ground and in the tackle - and in positioning sense - however, I'd rate him well ahead of Jones. Jones was brought in, IIRC, to solve the problenm of cross balls. He did that, but his limitations caused other problems in turn.

I have nothing 'personal' against Jones - I simply did not rate him highly as a player. His limitations were very obvious; his abilities much less so.

Yes, my eyesight is very poor without glasses - one of the penalties of age. But with them, I can still see when a player isn't nearly as good as his fan-club would like to make out.

[LaMotta]

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Fenwick was IIRC on appearance money, which meant he hardly played after Sauzee left. When he was playing regularly he was a solid, sound centre-back. His usual partner at CB was either Hughes or Smith, btw.

Just because Hughes played in a relegation side doesn't automatically make him a bad defender - he also played in the promotion side and in the first season after promotion. Remember the 6-2 game?

Smith was a much under-rated player who played on well into Blobby's time - a consummate professional who got on with the job he was asked to do and did it well. He was well into his 30's before he retired and slowing up. He still wasn't as unwieldy - or as naive - as Jones could be..

Gordon Hunter had his limitations (as do all players) but again - just because we failed to beat Hearts over that period doesn't make him a bad player - I wouldn't like to have had to watch Jones marking (or attempting to mark) Robbo. grodon was much, much better than you make out.

Murray's weakness was a lack of height - he and Caldwell were too easily beaten in the air. On the ground and in the tackle - and in positioning sense - however, I'd rate him well ahead of Jones. Jones was brought in, IIRC, to solve the problenm of cross balls. He did that, but his limitations caused other problems in turn.

I have nothing 'personal' against Jones - I simply did not rate him highly as a player. His limitations were very obvious; his abilities much less so.

Yes, my eyesight is very poor without glasses - one of the penalties of age. But with them, I can still see when a player isn't nearly as good as his fan-club would like to make out.

Fenwick's usual partner was John Hughes? Amazing feat given that they were never at Hibs at the same time.

Do I remember the 6-2 game? Its pretty obvious you don't because John Hughes wisnae playing in it - an Ayr United star at the time.

Not just your eyesight that is poor (with or without glasses) - your memory aint too great either.

It's a shame when someone takes such great pleasure in knocking a player like Jones - if it aint personal it must be down to a lack of understanding of the game, all in my opinion

[scoopyboy]

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Fenwick's usual partner was John Hughes? Amazing feat given that they were never at Hibs at the same time.Do I remember the 6-2 game? Its pretty obvious you don't because John Hughes wisnae playing in it - an Ayr United star at the time.

Not just your eyesight that is poor (with or without glasses) - your memory aint too great either.

It's a shame when someone takes such great pleasure in knocking a player like Jones - if it aint personal it must be down to a lack of understanding of the game, all in my opinion

I wisnae 100% on that so I checked back to find in a Herald report that Paul Fenwick was signed from Morton to replace the freed John Hughes.

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I wisnae 100% on that so I checked back to find in a Herald report that Paul Fenwick was signed from Morton to replace the freed John Hughes.

Fenwick was signed as our 4th central defender behind Sauzee, Smith and....Martin McIntosh. It all went so fell that MM was sent to somewhere down south. Stockport?

Fenwick done well but couldn't maintain the standard in his 2nd year. One of the lads who took a pay cut to get an extra year's contract when the money dried up circa 2003.

[Just Jimmy]

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Martin McIntosh. It all went so fell that MM was sent to somewhere down south. Stockport?

rotherham i think. not massively important either way

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rotherham i think. not massively important either way

Maybe he came from Stockport? Rotherham certainly rings a bell!

[HibbyAndy]

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Maybe he came from Stockport? Rotherham certainly rings a bell!

He did come from Stockport. Made his debut in a 2-1 win against Celtc at ER and had a goal WRONGLY ruled off for pushing.

[sambajustice]

Errrr, is Sauzee not the best centre half we've had in 30 years??

[Hibstrooper]

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Smith was a much under-rated player who played on well into Blobby's time - a consummate professional who got on with the job he was asked to do and did it well. He was well into his 30's before he retired and slowing up. He still wasn't as unwieldy - or as naive - as Jones could be..

One of the most under-rated Hibs players of the last decade IMO.

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Fenwick's usual partner was John Hughes? Amazing feat given that they were never at Hibs at the same time.

Do I remember the 6-2 game? Its pretty obvious you don't because John Hughes wisnae playing in it - an Ayr United star at the time.

Not just your eyesight that is poor (with or without glasses) - your memory aint too great either.

It's a shame when someone takes such great pleasure in knocking a player like Jones - if it aint personal it must be down to a lack of understanding of the game, all in my opinion

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I wisnae 100% on that so I checked back to find in a Herald report that Paul Fenwick was signed from Morton to replace the freed John Hughes.

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Fenwick was signed as our 4th central defender behind Sauzee, Smith and....Martin McIntosh. It all went so fell that MM was sent to somewhere down south. Stockport?

Fenwick done well but couldn't maintain the standard in his 2nd year. One of the lads who took a pay cut to get an extra year's contract when the money dried up circa 2003.

You're right - I'm wrong. Red-face smilie.

Abject apologies.

[Dashing Bob S]

A wise enough central defender, but his disciplinary record is such that I can see him being hauled up before the beaks. Pity he isn't Scottish, has all the attributes to become an indispensable companion to Potter.

[(((Fergus)))]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot..._2/9430571.stm

Not at his best...in fact looked a bit of a twit