mercer song

[Hibs Class]

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I'm obviously in the minority on here however this song disgusts me.

I'm from the generation that lived through all this and I despise as much as everyone else what he tried to do but celebrating the fact he has died

I'm not asking anyone to respect him or indeed to like him but he was a human being with a family just like the rest of us - family who may well get to read some of the bile that gets posted like this.

I'll be singing my head of like the rest of us on Sunday but if that song starts up you'll no hear me (and many others) joining in.

This has nothing to do with taking moral high ground - there's idiots on either side who are just as bad as each other.

Its about common decency.

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I'm with you.

I agree too. For me it's not a question of respect or disrespect for Mercer, more that I have too much self respect to sing that song.

[Wotherspiniesta]

While this debate is sure to rage on for a little while yet, I suggest we kick back with a beer and play a little game of "where's wallace"

wallace.JPG

[Www1875hfc]

Ah is this a trick? ye cannae fool us hibees fans, he is 6 feet under in that sand pit eh?

[Cabbage East]

Is he dying in the corner?

[Gatecrasher]

he's in the candy floss que

[CentreLine]

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we should sing the mercer song

tell all the hearts you no

LTYF

Probably the worst taste post I have seen this year and clearly from a yam. Get this juvenile yam launched please

[Dashing Bob S]

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Pure genius and illustrates beautifully why you'll never stop people, particularly youngsters who like to shock, from singing that song. Personally I don't care for it myself and never sing it but I'm not offended by others doing so. It's their choice.

[Saorsa]

Found him

[adhibs]

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While this debate is sure to rage on for a little while yet, I suggest we kick back with a beer and play a little game of "where's wallace"

wallace.JPG

thats quality. Couldnt find him till he was pointed out tho

[degenerated]

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Found him

[Saorsa]

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the joke was on me though there's already a tombstone in the pic

[Bostonhibby]

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Although I loathed the man, I don't think we should lower ourselves to their level with these sort of chants. Leave this in the gutter where it belongs. There are better ways of getting behind our team.

despised him and what he stood for, was around at the time when he failed, have plenty memories of giving him stick but think we should be above this particular song, he is dead, it tells a lot of neutral observers that we are not much better than the unwashed and some of their hateful songs. Private loathing and quiet satisfaction at his failure and where they are now is enough for me thanks.

[Dinkydoo]

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Sorry, but it's you not making sense.

I assume when he was alive you had no objection to him being sung against?

So, by that measure you are advocating a change from him being disrespected to not being disrespected just due to him being dead.

I've yet to hear any sort of valid reason as to why being dead changes the way that you should think or act about that person.

I assume that you've been to a funeral before.........

Would you stand up in the middle of the service and tell everyone what a dick the guy was?

Even though you had no problem in telling him and everyone else what a tosspot her was whilst still here........think about it.

This is football ffs; if you think a human life is less important then go join one of the bigot brothers.

I mean yea, I have no problem in saying that Wallace Mercer was a tit that tried to kill one of the things I love most in my life but I'll pass on celebrating and singing about the guys death, thank you very much.

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Be honest though Andy, that's not what the song is. The song is actually revelling in someone's death, which goes way beyond respect or disrespect for a living person.

Tin Hat on here but I personally can't see the difference between this and the kind of stuff sung by the bigot brothers.

I now await the insults, as someone who's dared to disagree with the majority.

[Bostonhibby]

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I'm obviously in the minority on here however this song disgusts me.

I'm from the generation that lived through all this and I despise as much as everyone else what he tried to do but celebrating the fact he has died

I'm not asking anyone to respect him or indeed to like him but he was a human being with a family just like the rest of us - family who may well get to read some of the bile that gets posted like this.

I'll be singing my head of like the rest of us on Sunday but if that song starts up you'll no hear me (and many others) joining in.

This has nothing to do with taking moral high ground - there's idiots on either side who are just as bad as each other.

Its about common decency.

Its a massively well worn path this one, said plenty bad things about the man myself and still think them but for me I actually dont think it shows us in a particularly great light if we continue to express it in this way.

The guy failed to do what his money grabbing capitalist instincts made him try, never gave a **** about football, look how things went down their way after this property speculation went horribly wrong.

His legacy for me on this one is that he looked a bit of an arse who was outmanouvered by fans he massively underestimated, and a different kind of businessman who cared about more than money.

Inersting how our clubs have fared since.

[Cabbage East]

Why are people comparing us to the old firm? It's nothing to do with them, they've never had to deal with the situation we did.

See it for what it is, justified hatred of a sc*mbag who tried to end us to suit his own agenda.

Rot in hell you piece of filth.

[Andy74]

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I assume that you've been to a funeral before.........

Would you stand up in the middle of the service and tell everyone what a dick the guy was?

Even though you had no problem in telling him and everyone else what a tosspot her was whilst still here........think about it.

This is football ffs; if you think a human life is less important then go join one of the bigot brothers.

I mean yea, I have no problem in saying that Wallace Mercer was a tit that tried to kill one of the things I love most in my life but I'll pass on celebrating and singing about the guys death, thank you very much.

Why on earth would I go to the funeral of someone who I thought was a dick?

And yes, if I called him a dick when alive he'd now just be a dead dick.

Death seems to have a strange effect on some!

[CropleyWasGod]

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Why are people comparing us to the old firm? It's nothing to do with them, they've never had to deal with the situation we did.

See it for what it is, justified hatred of a sc*mbag who tried to end us to suit his own agenda.

Rot in hell you piece of filth.

Why? Because of comments like "Rot in hell you piece of filth."

[TrinityHibs]

I have not read the thread after page 1 so if this has been dealt with I apologise.

In the past I have worked for both STF and Mercer. If you ask me who was/is the better man I would say STF for a host of reasons. However Mercer does have a family and I really have an issue about revelling in someones death.

I was at a funeral today of a great guy. His family were there and while I could smile at the stories I struggled with the personal family grief.

I think we become less when we personalise abuse. Yes we upset the Hertz supporters (Not just the nutters) but what is gained. The sensible guys say thats out of order and its hard to argue.

The reality is Wallace Mercer is dead and cannot have any influence on Hibs. In fact Hibs are so different to when Waldo was about that he is of no consequence to Hibs.

I have had a drink and will continue to do so for sometime tonight thinking about a friend and his family. Singing the Mercer is dead song does not make me feel like a Hibernian supporter. Its a wind up for the oppostion and will not encourage the team in any way. Sorry guys but grow up and get some decent songs that we can all sing.

[Greenblood70]

I despised the fat, odious ****** when he was alive and I'm not going to change that just cos he's deid.

Tosser in life and death imo.

(I always find the way the ****bos rewrite history on Mercer amusing. They hated him almost as much as we did at one stage when he was raping their club on renting parts of the stadium from him).

[hibee_nation]

Hopefully these young bams who never lived through the nightmare that sing this song will pass it on to their kids so they can hate him too. For generations to come his name should be held in contempt.

[tamig]

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Love it!

[tamig]

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And to those who suggest we're offending his family, they offended us earlier this year by defiantly advocating the fat welt's attempt to eradicate us from the history books. Even now, 20 years on.

Absolutely. I remember their stance all too well. **** the lot of them.

[tamig]

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I have not read the thread after page 1 so if this has been dealt with I apologise.

In the past I have worked for both STF and Mercer. If you ask me who was/is the better man I would say STF for a host of reasons. However Mercer does have a family and I really have an issue about revelling in someones death.

I was at a funeral today of a great guy. His family were there and while I could smile at the stories I struggled with the personal family grief.

I think we become less when we personalise abuse. Yes we upset the Hertz supporters (Not just the nutters) but what is gained. The sensible guys say thats out of order and its hard to argue.

The reality is Wallace Mercer is dead and cannot have any influence on Hibs. In fact Hibs are so different to when Waldo was about that he is of no consequence to Hibs.

I have had a drink and will continue to do so for sometime tonight thinking about a friend and his family. Singing the Mercer is dead song does not make me feel like a Hibernian supporter. Its a wind up for the oppostion and will not encourage the team in any way. Sorry guys but grow up and get some decent songs that we can all sing.

I think there's a big difference though. I remember at the time hating the guy and wishing him dead. I've rarely felt so much hate towards another person in my life. The feeling never left me. When he died, I rejoiced. I think many others feel the same way. The memories of June 1990 will last forever. That's why we'll never forget what Mercer did and why many of us will continue to rejoice in his passing. He was not a great guy in the slightest.

[marinello59]

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I'm obviously in the minority on here however this song disgusts me.

I'm from the generation that lived through all this and I despise as much as everyone else what he tried to do but celebrating the fact he has died

I'm not asking anyone to respect him or indeed to like him but he was a human being with a family just like the rest of us - family who may well get to read some of the bile that gets posted like this.

I'll be singing my head of like the rest of us on Sunday but if that song starts up you'll no hear me (and many others) joining in.

This has nothing to do with taking moral high ground - there's idiots on either side who are just as bad as each other.

Its about common decency.

[Rory89]

Jambo not taking the news well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrSy9r0-lMg

[Dinkydoo]

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Why on earth would I go to the funeral of someone who I thought was a dick?

And yes, if I called him a dick when alive he'd now just be a dead dick.

Death seems to have a strange effect on some!

I did say think about it.............

There is a big difference in thinking someone is a tit even in death and publically singing about it -the hypothetical funeral situation was simply an example of the principle I'm trying to convey here.


What was that about death having a strange effect on people

[Phil D. Rolls]

This is just the same thing as Sid Vicious walking through the Paris Jewish quarter with a swastika armband. Funny when you're 18 and never experienced death, but as you get older not something that amuses you any more.