[QUOTE=HibeePaj;2618672]Willie Collum had a GOOD game on sunday and made one mistake (albeit a penalty decision). QUOTE]
I disagree strongly. Stokes should have been sent off for that shocking ankle breaking tackle. Lennon's 'warning/persuasion' must have been ringing in his ears at such an early stage in the game and the referee's 'chickening out' was clear to see. And he's supposed to be our best referee.
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27-10-2010 11:37 AM #121
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27-10-2010 11:39 AM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
W youere not spouting pish about people being glad because he was a tim?
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27-10-2010 11:45 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 11:47 AM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And what about his instructions pre season to his players to hound the referee, is that not all part of the same game?Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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27-10-2010 11:58 AM #125
and to balance up the vileness of the other half of scotlands shame http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-22661385/
A GANG of thugs laid siege to Celtic star Anthony Stokes's home as his parents cowered inside after Sunday's Old Firm clash.
Police were called after 15 thugs gathered outside his home.
A witness told the Record: "There was a mob of about 15 outside Anthony's house.
"The were singing anti-Catholic songs and saying they were going to 'kill the Fenian b*****d'.
two sides of a horrible vile bigoted sectarian scottish public.
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27-10-2010 12:12 PM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
its really quite simple.
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27-10-2010 12:13 PM #127This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 12:18 PM #130This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As for his pre seaosn instruction about pressing the referee..
Okay did you see what the Dundee united players did last weekend then? there was 6 of them at mcDonald and HE changed his mind - Not the linesman, so it would appear that pressure does work.
Now fast forward to Sunday - How many Celtic players were in Collums face when he gave teh penalty? One. Majstorovic who was involved in the incident.
also - ask yourself this - who's players hound the referee more: Celtic or Rangers?
do you think Nosurname says "look guys - gie the ref a break"
Yet Nosurname was the press TERRIFIED from him and its' "Wily old walter" Yet, Neil Lennon, who said less about refs than Jeffires or even Peter Houston last weekend, is irresponsible and being blamed for a ref getting a nasty phone call.
BTw Where do they get their numbers from? Is their a "Grade One Referees" section in Yellow Pages?
Or was it the fact that the papers printed his workplace, what his faith was and even what town he lived in?
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27-10-2010 12:22 PM #131This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
you twist and shift the agenda when your original point has been lost.
this is no different.
But for your peace of mind Why would it be done to quote "to show up the nasty catholics?"
Why bring a religion of what 1 billion people into it? Hwo do we knw they were Catholcis? Surely the term Celtic fan would have been more apt?
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27-10-2010 12:32 PM #132This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 12:39 PM #134This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 12:40 PM #135This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Lennon put unfair pressure on the ref before the old firm game. I couldn't care less how you want us to look at the 'evidence of him just answering questions' comes into it. Lennon is a fud but he's not completely mentally ******ed, he knew (and you know) what he was acheiving by saying what he did.
The penalty that was overturned against United was the correct decision, the penalty, that i'll admit Broadfoot 'won', at the weekend was the correct decision also.
Celtic fans....get over yourselves.
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27-10-2010 12:50 PM #136This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't know how you make this out. It was no penalty as there was no contact because of Broadfoot's lack of timing. If he had kept going forward with his normal momentum, it was a certain penalty. However, by my perverse sense of justice, it was amusing to see Lennon's attempt to 'control and police' the referee backfire in his face.
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27-10-2010 12:58 PM #137This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 01:07 PM #138This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"I would say that refereeing an Old Firm game at any time is difficult but when it is your first one, he might be a wee bit extra nervous," Lennon said.
"I just hope he has a strong game.
"We felt aggrieved at some of the decisions that went against us last year so we hope that he has a good game and makes the right decisions."
So far the counter argument has been "I don't think that that is OTT and is perfectly reasonable"
Is anyone genuinely arguing that these comments weren't designed to put some extra pressure on Collum?
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27-10-2010 01:11 PM #139This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 01:13 PM #140
I've just remembered that in our second top 6 season under Mixu (season before last), we drew with the Huns at ER and Rangers were denied what appeared to be a clear goal when someone (Stevenson?) hooked a Makalamby blunder from under the crossbar - pictures appeared to show that the ball crossed the line.
The linesman in question was (until recently) my girlfriend's boss and she said that the volume of calls that he got from the press were ridiculous - no deaths threats mind.
I have no wish to defend the Buns here, but that was an incident that cost them the game (in a season when the title was decided on the last day) and the frenzy wasn't anything like this.Last edited by Stevie Reid; 27-10-2010 at 01:19 PM.
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27-10-2010 01:22 PM #141This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm actually not at all in an argumentative mood just now, maybe it's the effect of the Latte and caramel shortbread from Starbucks I've got, so I suppose we can agree to differ (but I am right ...)
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27-10-2010 01:32 PM #142
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[QUOTE=swazzie;2618930]Here, again, are Lennon's quotes
"I would say that refereeing an Old Firm game at any time is difficult but when it is your first one, he might be a wee bit extra nervous," Lennon said.
"I just hope he has a strong game.
"We felt aggrieved at some of the decisions that went against us last year so we hope that he has a good game and makes the right decisions."
So far the counter argument has been "I don't think that that is OTT and is perfectly reasonable"
Is anyone genuinely arguing that these comments weren't designed to put some extra pressure on Collum?[/QUOTE]
Just one person it would appear.
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27-10-2010 01:43 PM #143This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The rest of your post didn't answer my question but provided a perfect example of how Old Firm fans resort to throwing cr@p at everybody else rather than face up to their own shortcomings.Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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27-10-2010 01:58 PM #144This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I had thought that it was Celtic themselves that had hired the private detective but now realise from this thread that it was the Celtic supporters. However, I also have a recollection that the club itself had hired a behavioural psychologist to review Hugh Dallas's perfomance after an OF match in 1999. Although I believe the report exonerated Dallas and blamed the Celtic players for the trouble, the Celtic chief exec still blamed Dallas for initiating the trouble by being over friendly in his gestures to Rangers players. (That was the game in which a Celtic fan cut Dallas's head with a coin). It does go to show that the victim mentality at Parkhead isn't new, nor are the reprehensible tactics to play to their support and attempt to exert pressure on referees and the SFA.
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27-10-2010 02:18 PM #145
Nothing makes you question whether life is worthing living like yet another 5 pages with Jack Regan
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27-10-2010 02:24 PM #146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 02:26 PM #147This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FOOTBALL%3A+HUGH+BACK+IN+LINE+OF+FIRE%3B+Easter+Ro ad+crunch-a061166243Last edited by Part/Time Supporter; 27-10-2010 at 02:33 PM.
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27-10-2010 02:45 PM #148
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Not that that justifies Lennon's wee spoilt bairn attitude that "everyone's out to get us, it's no' our fault", nor does it justify the criminal behaviour of some "supporters", from whatever side of the divide they come, re threatening players' or referees' families, throwing bricks through windows, as has happened before, far less the "normal" A&E admissions for slashings, stabbings, glassings and the rest that is part of the backdrop to each and every one of the "greatest" derby games in the world.
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27-10-2010 02:53 PM #149This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-10-2010 02:54 PM #150This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm beginning to find myself agreeing that it's not Lennon who's causing this stooshie, at least not Lennon alone. The club are as bad as their manager by writing letters of complaint about decisions that have gone against them. I've no problem with them writing but why make that public knowledge if not to pile more pressure on the referees and the SFA.
If it's acceptable practise to write to the SFA regarding decisions that have gone against them should it not also be acceptable practise to write about decisions that went in their favour? For example, Stokes should have seen red for his challenge on Papac but only got a yellow and it's not inconceivable that Collum took that line because of the pressure being piled onto him before the game.This is how it feels
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