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    Reintroduction of standing at SPL matches

    Hello users of Hibs.net.

    19 days ago I setup a Facebook group to show support for the reintroduction of standing at SPL matches. In this short space of time the group has rocketed to over 1100 members !

    We invite fans of every club and indeed division to show support to our group. Even if you personally do not wish to stand other do, and those fans should be catered for and given a CHOICE to sit or stand.

    The Group advocates following the much talked about German and Austrian "Safestanding" terracing model. This would allow Scottish football fans to view the match standing in a safe enviroment. We also wish to see the scrapping of the 6000 thousand covered seat rule with no terracing for SFL clubs who are promoted to the SPL. Why should fans be punished for success ?

    We are currently running an MSP email campaign, there is an email template available to use on the "event page". So far we have recived replies from a number of MSP's which include:

    Hugh O'Donnel MSP "From a purely personal perspective, provided there were adequate safety measures in place I would have no objections."

    Kenneth Gibson MSP"...if some fans wish to stand then they should be catered for, if it's possible to do so safely. The issues that led to all seated stadiums have declined somewhat and if a section of a ground can be safely made into terracing - for season ticket holders perhaps, although not, I would suggest, away fans - then it should be looked at."

    The group shall in the near future be undertaking various methods to show our views to the wider public and build support.

    Please join the group and subscribe to our Youtube Channel.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=151038524916484

    http://www.youtube.com/user/BringBackStanding

    Thank you everyone at Hibs.net.

    We also have an email if you wish to contact us reintroductionofstanding@live.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu View Post
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    sit down. can't see the game!
    While that was tongue in cheek it actually is another very valid point.

    Fans who wish to stand presently at football matches sometimes indeed stand in a seating area as the SPL refuse to cater for there needs. Sometimes when doing this it blocks the view of other fans causing uneeded friction between fellow fans !

    Safe standing terracing is the common sense soloution.

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    So we finally build our lovely new all seater stadium and now you want to rip it apart again?

    Were aboots would we put standing in our stadium now??????

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    So we finally build our lovely new all seater stadium and now you want to rip it apart again?

    Were aboots would we put standing in our stadium now??????
    If the law is changed to allow the building of safe standing terracing in the SPL then depending on the demand of people wanting to stand at Hibernian then that would dictate where Hibernian would build it and after fan consultation where to build it, I would imagine so being the driving factors in any future development of safe standing terracing at your club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREEN SKYE View Post
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    So we finally build our lovely new all seater stadium and now you want to rip it apart again?

    Were aboots would we put standing in our stadium now??????
    Couldn't we adapt the front four rows of the new East?

    Or the bottom tier of the Famous Five?
    ''It's always been just part of the culture. Growing up, for most working-class kids, is all about football, music or clothes. You might not have much money, but whatever you have got, you're going to look good.'' - Paul Weller

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    We need as many fans on board so please join up !

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    Quote Originally Posted by .sean. View Post
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    Couldn't we adapt the front four rows of the new East?

    Or the bottom tier of the Famous Five?
    That would mean that we would need to take out the 2 or 3 rows behind that? Not to rain on everyones parade but I think this will be quite a big thing to implement which would probably require funds from Hibs to create. The new safety certificate for the east stand is for an all seated stadium which would probably need to be amended at a cost and possibly because of the incline of the east a safety certificate may not be passed, perhaps the standing area would need to be in one of the other stands?

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    That would mean that we would need to take out the 2 or 3 rows behind that? Not to rain on everyones parade but I think this will be quite a big thing to implement which would probably require funds from Hibs to create. The new safety certificate for the east stand is for an all seated stadium which would probably need to be amended at a cost and possibly because of the incline of the east a safety certificate may not be passed, perhaps the standing area would need to be in one of the other stands?
    Think we should focus on campaigning for a rule change first before looking at it, if and where a section would be built at Easter Road.

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    Joined. Well Celtic seem to be taking great strides in adopting standing areas for away fans. As large chunks of the away end are without seating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .sean. View Post
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    Couldn't we adapt the front four rows of the new East?

    Or the bottom tier of the Famous Five?
    Would work best in the FF lower I would imagine

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    Facebook is for desperados and billy nae mates..

    I dinnae have it!

    So how do I support this?

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    Facebook is for desperados and billy nae mates..

    I dinnae have it!

    So how do I support this?
    Hi, we are aware lots of football fans don't have Facebook but it is the best medium for us to quickly contact huge numbers of people. In the near future we may have an independent website.

    At the moment you can join our MSP email campaign.

    To find your MSPs email you can use, www.theyworkforyou.com

    The email template here is to be adjusted to your needs.

    Dear *******,

    I am ******* and I am a supporter of our national
    game football and it is on that subject that I am writing to you today. I
    am also a member of a group on facebook (Link at the bottom of email)
    that has the aim of bring standing at football games back to the game
    and that is why I am writing to you today because I believe that you can
    help me and my fellow fans achieve this.

    Many people believe
    that standing at football is dangerous due to terrible disasters such as
    the Ibrox Disasters and Hillsbourgh Disaster, but this is not true. As
    currently in Germany in many of there stadia they are using the way of
    Safe Terracing. This allows the stadium to be safe but making sure that
    the game keeps all it's traditions and the atmosphere is still great as
    it should be. There are also other added benefits to using Safe
    Terracing. Another benefit is that it leads to lower ticket price as is
    shown in Germany this means that the game will keep it's connection with
    those that have always shown much love for it the working class. Lower
    ticket price would help protect our clubs as well as lower prices
    meaning more fans could attend matches more reguarly. These are just a
    few added benefits to using the safe terracing at football matches.

    I hope that you will support us in our aim. I look forward to your reply.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=151038524916484

    Yours sincerely,
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    Would work best in the FF lower I would imagine
    would love to see the noisier element of our support move to the FF to create a home end such as The Stretford, Kop or Holte Ends... cant see it catching on though

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrissy_g88 View Post
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    would love to see the noisier element of our support move to the FF to create a home end such as The Stretford, Kop or Holte Ends... cant see it catching on though

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    Feel free topost up on any other hibs/football forum and share it with your pals. All clubs united for change !

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    Quote Originally Posted by .sean. View Post
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    Or the bottom tier of the Famous Five?


    That would defo be the easiest place to implement this.

    One other reason that germany has standing areas is to provide the option of cheaper tickets for part of the stadium, thereby opening up games to a wider range of icomes. I'd be in favour of this but suspect the clubs would be against it because of worries over reduced income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #10 View Post
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    Facebook is for desperados and billy nae mates..

    I dinnae have it!

    So how do I support this?
    FINALLY, somebody else shares my sentiments regarding Facebook!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrissy_g88 View Post
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    would love to see the noisier element of our support move to the FF to create a home end such as The Stretford, Kop or Holte Ends... cant see it catching on though
    That would be superb!
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    In future we may be asking fans of every club who support our cause to do a banner in support of the reintroduction of standing, just a simple message banner.

    Would users of Hibs.net in the future be up for it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPL STAND UP View Post
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    In future we may be asking fans of every club who support our cause to do a banner in support of the reintroduction of standing, just a simple message banner.

    Would users of Hibs.net in the future be up for it ?
    Im sure the 12th man group would give you a hand

    http://www.hibs12thman.co.uk/

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    You can stand/sit anywere you like when the stadium is half empty

    We sat in the East against Hamilton last weekend. We sat near the away end first half and then moved to the other end second(for all the good it done)

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    Whilst I support the idea of re-introducing standing in football grounds - I think Scottish football in general has much bigger and more important issues to deal with.

    Sorry - but good luck with your campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .sean. View Post
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    FINALLY, somebody else shares my sentiments regarding Facebook!
    add me to that list of yours sean.

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    Au contraire, people with no Facebook are the billy nae mates...don't want to be seen with their 3 friends only

    Joined up and sent 100 invites so hopefully it grows to a sizeable number...

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    If the law is changed to allow the building of safe standing terracing in the SPL then depending on the demand of people wanting to stand at Hibernian then that would dictate where Hibernian would build it and after fan consultation where to build it, I would imagine so being the driving factors in any future development of safe standing terracing at your club.
    As long as the fans in question want to contribute towards it and it doesn't affect the product on the park, I've no objections. I'd be pretty pissed off though, if a Hibs manager turned round and said "we have to live within our means and you can see the results on the park because we've been developing that standing bit". We just suffered that from the redevelopment of the East (which was essential as opposed to a 'nice to have').

    I am constantly surprised though, that considering how ***** Scottish football is and how many other problems there are (OF dominance, financials etc etc), that folk see standing as a priority.

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    As long as the fans in question want to contribute towards it and it doesn't affect the product on the park, I've no objections. I'd be pretty pissed off though, if a Hibs manager turned round and said "we have to live within our means and you can see the results on the park because we've been developing that standing bit". We just suffered that from the redevelopment of the East (which was essential as opposed to a 'nice to have').

    I am constantly surprised though, that considering how ***** Scottish football is and how many other problems there are (OF dominance, financials etc etc), that folk see standing as a priority.
    Probably as its the only thing that can be changed, and very easily aswell, and there is plenty demand for it.

    How can the SPL change OF dominance and finances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antifa Hibs View Post
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    Probably as its the only thing that can be changed, and very easily aswell, and there is plenty demand for it.

    How can the SPL change OF dominance and finances?
    Kick them out of the Scottish game. Like we should have done when we had the opportunity.

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