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[Gatecrasher]

Seahawks playing really well!

[hibsbollah]

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Seahawks playing really well!

Russell is just unbelievable.
Bawston beat the 49ers later please

[Gatecrasher]

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Russell is just unbelievable.
Bawston beat the 49ers later please

3 rush TD'S for a QB you can't complain, I'm also hoping for a 49ers loss

[Calvin]

The Seahawks are looking a little bit good. The right time of year to hit form! Just makes it all the more depressing to look back at a couple of the games we should never have lost earlier in the year.

Could be on track for the biggest points differential over two games in the last 50 years.

[Sylar]

2 outstanding back to back wins but I'd hope the Seahawks aren't getting carried away considering the opposition :-)

[Calvin]

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2 outstanding back to back wins but I'd hope the Seahawks aren't getting carried away considering the opposition :-)

Not getting carried away, but when you remember that we don't lose at home then it's looking like 5 wins on the bounce to close out the season. Okay, maybe a bit carried away

Still, you can only beat what's in front of you so I'll take the 108 points viewing over the last week.

[Haymaker]

Christ we are looking rubbish!

That kapernich (sp?) is some player though.

[Haymaker]

Absolutely no luck with us tonight.

Another turnover. FFS!

Complete waste of time staying up for this! Patriots cannot do anything tonight, crazy!

[Calvin]

Well that's our divisional aspirations over.

Can't wait to play the 49ers next week!

[Calvin]

Well, I think I may have misspoke.

[Haymaker]

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Well, I think I may have misspoke.

I may well have done the same sir!

Bloody hell! Straight away we are behind again!

[Calvin]

What a mental match! And to think that I was about to put on my Cheers box set.

[Haymaker]

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What a mental match! And to think that I was about to put on my Cheers box set.

Bollocks, gambled and lost. Game over.

[Calvin]

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Bollocks, gambled and lost. Game over.

Pretty gutted, next week's SNF would have been the game of the season if your team were a little better

[Haymaker]

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Pretty gutted, next week's SNF would have been the game of the season if your team were a little better

Watch it fella!

[Haymaker]

Last 38 seconds to tie the game..!

Pathetic attempt at an onside kick.

[Calvin]

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Last 38 seconds to tie the game..!

Pathetic attempt at an onside kick.

If I fancied one QB to be able to lead a 38 second 60 yard drive it was Brady, but as you say the onside was one of the worst I've seen; truly laughable.

Suppose I better move from in front of the TV after 11 hours then!

[Haymaker]

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If I fancied one QB to be able to lead a 38 second 60 yard drive it was Brady, but as you say the onside was one of the worst I've seen; truly laughable.

Suppose I better move from in front of the TV after 11 hours then!

Only Brady or Eli Manning would do in that situation but woeful, just woeful onside kick. Do they ever come off? I remember the one in the superbowl but no one was expecting that, this was clear as day and just pitiful.

Yeah, that is the problem with Sundays, I have been in front of the tele since the Spurs game!

[NOLA]

Great comeback from the pats to tie the game @ 31-31 musta been gutted to lose a Td just 2 plays later, what's with the ship foghorn? Sounded like the titanic was heading inshore lol

[Sylar]

Bit gutted in the end to lose but San Francisco are a damned good team and they fought hard.

Cincinnati 34-13 Philadelphia
Atlanta 34-0 NY Giants
Minnesota 36-22 St Louis
Miami 24-3 Jacksonville
Green Bay 21-13 Chicago
Washington 38-21 Cleveland
Denver 34-17 Baltimore
Houston 29-17 Indianapolis
New Orleans 41-0 Tampa Bay
Arizona 38-10 Detroit
Carolina 31-7 San Diego
Seattle 50-17 Buffalo
Dallas 27-24 Pittsburgh
Oakland 15-0 Kansas City
San Francisco 41-34 New England
MNF: NY Jets @ Tennessee

NFC East

Washington 8-6
NY Giants 8-6
Dallas 8-6
Philadelphia 4-10

NFC North

z - Green Bay 10-4
Chicago 8-6
Minnesota 8-6
Detroit 4-10

NFC South

z - Atlanta 12-2
New Orleans 6-8
Tampa Bay 6-8
Carolina 5-9

NFC West

x - San Francisco 10-3-1
Seattle 9-5
St Louis 6-7-1
Arizona 5-9

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AFC East

z - New England 10-4
NY Jets 6-7
Miami 6-8
Buffalo 5-9

AFC North

x - Baltimore 9-5
Cincinnati 8-6
Pittsburgh 7-7
Cleveland 5-9

AFC South

z - Houston 12-2
Indianapolis 9-5
Tennessee 4-9
Jacksonville 2-12

AFC West

z - Denver 11-3
San Diego 5-9
Oakland 4-10
Kansas City 2-12

z - Division Champions
x - Clinched playoff place

[Gatecrasher]

Brilliant to have clinched the NFC North for the 2nd year, the Bears were looking brilliant through the first half of the season and a Wild Card was looking the best option, I cant see us catching ther 49ers for the 2nd seed but the 3rd seed is a decent one as well.

[Sylar]

I still think we have a chance to catch the second seed for the AFC if not the first. Out of the four teams in the hunt for #1/2, our run-ins are thus:

New England: @Jacksonville, vs Miami

Baltimore: vs NY Giants, @Cincinnati

Houston: vs Minnesota, @Indianapolis

Denver: vs Cleveland, vs Kansas City

I'd fancy Denver to win both of their remaining games but Baltimore have a hard 2 closing games, with both teams still fighting hard for the playoffs and Houston have a difficult trip to face Indy and host a resurgent Minnesota team still fighting for the playoffs also.

[HibsMax]

What a thoroughly disappointing game from the Pats. It's funny how sometimes it's not just one thing that goes wrong, it's everything. Taking nothing away from the 9ers D, but the Pats didn't make things too difficult for them barring the comeback. When we were 31-31 I went to the kitchen to get something and when I got back the 9ers' were already in our half and I sat down just in time to see Arrington miss a tackle and the 9ers get back to 7 points ahead. Ridley is worrying me a little. That's 3 fumbles in 2 weeks. The one last week was picked up by Lloyd for a TD so that's "OK". His first one yesterday wasn't really a fumble since he was down by contact, but he still lost the ball. Then there was the real fumble. And then Vereen fumbles too! The weather last night was perfect for Pats football but the 9ers looked more comfortable. And then there were lots of dropped passes. Still, we had a tough three weeks against MIA, HOW then SF....now JAC and then the fish at home so hopefully we can build some momentum again.

As for the onside kick. I don't think it was awful. How often do they really work anyway? It didn't look good but when the analysts were talking about it afterwards they were saying that on it's 2nd or 3rd bounce it should have hopped high into the air. If you watch it in slow mo you will see that it does hop up but only a few feet rather than about 10 feet. I don't know how anyone can expect a kicker to have that much control over the spin of the ball. I think they just practice it over and over again and hope that it pays off. I would be that in practice situations it works about 5% of the time. And there's only a 50% chance of that. ;)

[Haymaker]

Calmed down a bit now about terrible onside kicks!

Bring on JAX!

[hibsbollah]

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I still think we have a chance to catch the second seed for the AFC if not the first. Out of the four teams in the hunt for #1/2, our run-ins are thus:

New England: @Jacksonville, vs Miami

Baltimore: vs NY Giants, @Cincinnati

Houston: vs Minnesota, @Indianapolis

Denver: vs Cleveland, vs Kansas City

I'd fancy Denver to win both of their remaining games but Baltimore have a hard 2 closing games, with both teams still fighting hard for the playoffs and Houston have a difficult trip to face Indy and host a resurgent Minnesota team still fighting for the playoffs also.

I fancy you to win both your games to finish 12-4 but miss out on the bye week.
I also think the Ravens will get caught by one of their divisional rivals, they look woeful.

Two classic SNFs coming up, for those of us not working over the holidays 49ers at Seahawks this weekend, vital game for both teams, and then Cowboys at Redskins next week in what could be a NFC East decider

[Gatecrasher]

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I fancy you to win both your games to finish 12-4 but miss out on the bye week.
I also think the Ravens will get caught by one of their divisional rivals, they look woeful.

Two classic SNFs coming up, for those of us not working over the holidays 49ers at Seahawks this weekend, vital game for both teams, and then Cowboys at Redskins next week in what could be a NFC East decider

Christmas leave = SPL and NFL

[Sylar]

MFN: Tennessee 14-10 NY Jets

AFC East

z - New England 10-4
NY Jets 6-8
Miami 6-8
Buffalo 5-9
AFC South

z - Houston 12-2
Indianapolis 9-5
Tennessee 5-9
Jacksonville 2-12

NOW can we ditch these delusions of the Jessies being a potential playoff team?

[Haymaker]

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NOW can we ditch these delusions of the Jessies being a potential playoff team?

Arent they going to win the Superbowl?!


They have Tebow, surely they are making the playoffs?

[Haymaker]

Jets are bencings Sanchez for this weekends game...

... For McElroy.

Though it would surely be Tebow time?

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Jets are bencings Sanchez for this weekends game...

... For McElroy.

Though it would surely be Tebow time?

Tebow threw five passes this entire season for 39 yards. His future's still up in the air. Sanchez on the other hand has proven he just isn't good enough for the NFL, though. I was looking at his career stats earlier, even when the Jets had their playoff runs his ratings are around 70 or lower and as many interceptions as TDs. He's been lucky to have been given as long as he has.

I can see Matt Flynn, Vick or Alex Smith at the Jets next season. The good news is there are a lot of decent experienced QBs out there without a starting job.