John Collins

[pepe]

Come back J.C. you were right.

[Jamesie]

Collins in + wasters out = success

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

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Collins in + wasters out = success

Yeah, bring back Clayton Donaldson as well!

[KinchHibee]

The way Collins wanted us to train and play and just in general his idea of life as a footballer is lightyears of where Scottish football is right now.



Plus his signings were gash

[vahibbie]

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The way Collins wanted us to train and play and just in general his idea of life as a footballer is lightyears of where Scottish football is right now.

Aye mibbes, but it shouldn't be

Plus his signings were gash

I think JC would be better second time around. Doubt he would be interested tho.

[Jamesie]

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Yeah, bring back Clayton Donaldson as well!

Fair dos but remember, he was working with a very different cloth to that available to Hughes.

[Kaiser1962]

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Yeah, bring back Clayton Donaldson as well!

Was that deal not done and dusted by Mowbray?

[Kaiser1962]

I think the pitches are to blame for a lot of our ills. Most resemble ploughed field and dont suit our style of play. Our dip in form has coincided with the worst winter in 30 year.

[chrisski33]

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I think the pitches are to blame for a lot of our ills. Most resemble ploughed field and dont suit our style of play. Our dip in form has coincided with the worst winter in 30 year.

lol lets blame the pitches!!!

[Judas Iscariot]

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Yeah, bring back Clayton Donaldson as well!

And Patrick Noubissie, Thierry Gathuessi, Brian Kerr, Abdel Zarabi, Alan O'brien, Thomas showunmi, Filipe Morais and Maka.. Oh wait he's still here..

Plus, if JC was back Wotherspoon will have been a seasoned centre half by now..

[Hainan Hibs]

I miss JC

[RoYO!]

he could really spot a player. Fingers crossed he brings back Alan O'brien too!

cos of course none of the players that yogi has brought in have done anything, or raised the standard of player on show...

[matty_f]

That John Collins was right is exactly the reason we need to stick by Yogi and let him get in about this club.

Replacing the manager tells the players (who JC saw as the problem) that they can carry on in the same way as much as they like, manager after manager after manager.

[ScottB]

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That John Collins was right is exactly the reason we need to stick by Yogi and let him get in about this club.

Replacing the manager tells the players (who JC saw as the problem) that they can carry on in the same way as much as they like, manager after manager after manager.

The squad revolted against Collins because they objected to his training, fitness and lifestyle regimes.

JC was right. However that doesn't relate to Yogi unless he too is trying to crack down on these attitudes at the club, if anything it looks like Yogi is the opposite of Collins; where he was too distant from the squad, Hughes seems to be too close.

[CallumHibs07]

JC was pish

[SalfordHibs]

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JC was pish

Aye JC was pish right enough eh Brought us a cup, had us playing good football, players in their right positions, changed things when it wasn't going our way, used subs in the correct manner.

Maybe if our board backed him like they did Yogi eh

[Jamesie]

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That John Collins was right is exactly the reason we need to stick by Yogi and let him get in about this club.

When is he going to start then Matty?

[matty_f]

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When is he going to start then Matty?

He's got to get this pre-season, IMHO.

So far he's come in part way through a pre-season, and has given the squad the chance to prove themselves.

He tried to get better players in through the Jan window but wasn't able to, and rather than buying for the sake of buying, has stuck out til he can get who he wants to get.

This pre-season will make or break Yogi, but he HAS to be given it, IMHO.

[chrisski33]

who cares about jc or anyother ex managers and wud it be better if they were here or if they were right or not! Remember collins walked out on hibs when the going got tough and wasnt going his way! Lets worry about how yogi is going to turn it around!

[sixtwo]

JC walked out because he was ordered to sell ****ing millions of pounds worth of players and was not allowed to bring in a cheap replacement!

JC done more in 6 months than many managers have done in years at easter road.

Why talk about how yogi is going to change it? Fans have been highlighting his failings for months but the stubborn one chooses to do it his way. Fair enough, he is entitled to do it his way but if it goes wrong, like it has done, he has to take responsibility for his stubborness!

time for a change

Put it this way. We will have a new stand to fill. We will have targets for season ticket sales. If we are offered this dross week in week out, there will be very few renewing their tickets!

That is what will decide yogis future!

People here are naturally comparing the present manager with ones who have gone before him in a bid to determine how he has faired!

[chrisski33]

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JC walked out because he was ordered to sell ****ing millions of pounds worth of players and was not allowed to bring in a cheap replacement!

JC done more in 6 months than many managers have done in years at easter road.

Why talk about how yogi is going to change it? Fans have been highlighting his failings for months but the stubborn one chooses to do it his way. Fair enough, he is entitled to do it his way but if it goes wrong, like it has done, he has to take responsibility for his stubborness!

time for a change

Put it this way. We will have a new stand to fill. We will have targets for season ticket sales. If we are offered this dross week in week out, there will be very few renewing their tickets!

That is what will decide yogis future!

People here are naturally comparing the present manager with ones who have gone before him in a bid to determine how he has faired!

we will see how he fairs at the end of the season not by how others have gone before him. he has different players than what collins had so you cant judge yogi to collins.
what did collins achieve in 6mnths apart from winning the diddy cup (with mowbrays team arguably)? collins couldnt handle the heat and walked out. having to sell some players was just an excuse for why he left.

why talk about how yogi is gonna change things? because he is our current manager thats why! talking about how ex managers would have done things is pointless! if jc ways worked they would have worked when he was in charge and why isnt he managing a club now?

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we will see how he fairs at the end of the season not by how others have gone before him. he has different players than what collins had so you cant judge yogi to collins.
what did collins achieve in 6mnths apart from winning the diddy cup (with mowbrays team arguably)? collins couldnt handle the heat and walked out. having to sell some players was just an excuse for why he left.

why talk about how yogi is gonna change things? because he is our current manager thats why! talking about how ex managers would have done things is pointless! if jc ways worked they would have worked when he was in charge and why isnt he managing a club now?

[Iain G]

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JC walked out because he was ordered to sell ****ing millions of pounds worth of players and was not allowed to bring in a cheap replacement!

JC done more in 6 months than many managers have done in years at easter road.

Why talk about how yogi is going to change it? Fans have been highlighting his failings for months but the stubborn one chooses to do it his way. Fair enough, he is entitled to do it his way but if it goes wrong, like it has done, he has to take responsibility for his stubborness!

time for a change

Put it this way. We will have a new stand to fill. We will have targets for season ticket sales. If we are offered this dross week in week out, there will be very few renewing their tickets!

That is what will decide yogis future!

People here are naturally comparing the present manager with ones who have gone before him in a bid to determine how he has faired!

Good to see you have mastered the use of the exclamation mark! Now try for mastery of the use of the full stop.

[Dashing Bob S]

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Come back J.C. you were right.

Collins wanted to make the land of Chick Charnley, Andy Ritchie, Ally McLeod and Derek Riordan into a place where everyone crossed themselves, kissed mama, and went to bed at nine o' clock every night, watching the Med sunset.

He then threw the toys out the pram because he couldn't single-handedly change centuries of a nation's culture in ten minutes.

Hughes wants to go to exactly the same destination as JC, but I think he knows its a rocky road to get to that destination and you have to box clever. I believe come summer we shall see the ruthless side of Hughes emerge and there will be a massive clear out, and many of us will get a shock as to who actually leaves.

All this 'arm round the shoulder' stuff will go. Those who underestimated Yogi as a joker, a buffoon, will get a big fright when they contemplate life at Dunfermline, Raith Rovers and Airdrie, en route for East Fife, Stirling Albion and Annan Athletic, en route for the dole and a lifetime of drunken befuddlement in the less salubrious bars of Leith Walk.

If it's them or him, and the players seem to have made it into a contest, and there will only be one winner. If they think otherwise, they are absolutely deluding themselves. John Hughes can't come out and slag them off while we're in contention for Europe - that would really be the playing to the gallery some fans wrongly accuse him of- but they will be down the road in the summer. Everything about Hughes as a player and manager has shown that underestimating him is absolute folly.

They should enjoy the George Street sessions while they last, because some of them will soon be in the Walk, boring other jakeys with 'what might have been' tales. Anybody who thinks that will also be Yogi's fate is way, way wide of the mark. Whatever he says in public, the players have let him down badly, and they will pay the price.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

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Collins wanted to make the land of Chick Charnley, Andy Ritchie, Ally McLeod and Derek Riordan into a place where everyone crossed themselves, kissed mama, and went to bed at nine o' clock every night, watching the Med sunset.

He then threw the toys out the pram because he couldn't single-handedly change centuries of a nation's culture in ten minutes.

Hughes wants to go to exactly the same destination as JC, but I think he knows its a rocky road to get to that destination and you have to box clever. I believe come summer we shall see the ruthless side of Hughes emerge and there will be a massive clear out, and many of us will get a shock as to who actually leaves.

All this 'arm round the shoulder' stuff will go. Those who underestimated Yogi as a joker, a buffoon, will get a big fright when they contemplate life at Dunfermline, Raith Rovers and Airdrie, en route for East Fife, Stirling Albion and Annan Athletic, en route for the dole and a lifetime of drunken befuddlement in the less salubrious bars of Leith Walk.

If it's them or him, and the players seem to have made it into a contest, and there will only be one winner. If they think otherwise, they are absolutely deluding themselves. John Hughes can't come out and slag them off while we're in contention for Europe - that would really be the playing to the gallery some fans wrongly accuse him of- but they will be down the road in the summer. Everything about Hughes as a player and manager has shown that underestimating him is absolute folly.

They should enjoy the George Street sessions while they last, because some of them will soon be in the Walk, boring other jakeys with 'what might have been' tales. Anybody who thinks that will also be Yogi's fate is way, way wide of the mark. Whatever he says in public, the players have let him down badly, and they will pay the price.

I concur.

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the less salubrious bars of Leith Walk.

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Care to elaborate. It's the shore now.

[PapillonVert]

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Collins wanted to make the land of Chick Charnley, Andy Ritchie, Ally McLeod and Derek Riordan into a place where everyone crossed themselves, kissed mama, and went to bed at nine o' clock every night, watching the Med sunset.

He then threw the toys out the pram because he couldn't single-handedly change centuries of a nation's culture in ten minutes.

Hughes wants to go to exactly the same destination as JC, but I think he knows its a rocky road to get to that destination and you have to box clever. I believe come summer we shall see the ruthless side of Hughes emerge and there will be a massive clear out, and many of us will get a shock as to who actually leaves.

All this 'arm round the shoulder' stuff will go. Those who underestimated Yogi as a joker, a buffoon, will get a big fright when they contemplate life at Dunfermline, Raith Rovers and Airdrie, en route for East Fife, Stirling Albion and Annan Athletic, en route for the dole and a lifetime of drunken befuddlement in the less salubrious bars of Leith Walk.

If it's them or him, and the players seem to have made it into a contest, and there will only be one winner. If they think otherwise, they are absolutely deluding themselves. John Hughes can't come out and slag them off while we're in contention for Europe - that would really be the playing to the gallery some fans wrongly accuse him of- but they will be down the road in the summer. Everything about Hughes as a player and manager has shown that underestimating him is absolute folly.

They should enjoy the George Street sessions while they last, because some of them will soon be in the Walk, boring other jakeys with 'what might have been' tales. Anybody who thinks that will also be Yogi's fate is way, way wide of the mark. Whatever he says in public, the players have let him down badly, and they will pay the price.

I hope you are right, DBS.

Actually, I can see that the Board will want to get right behind the Manager - it's madness to assume we can have a new manager every season - and if that means laying down the law as to what the Manager (and Club) will tolerate in terms of player behaviour, then I am right behind the Club & manager.

Bring it on.

[Bookkeeper]

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Collins wanted to make the land of Chick Charnley, Andy Ritchie, Ally McLeod and Derek Riordan into a place where everyone crossed themselves, kissed mama, and went to bed at nine o' clock every night, watching the Med sunset.

He then threw the toys out the pram because he couldn't single-handedly change centuries of a nation's culture in ten minutes.

Hughes wants to go to exactly the same destination as JC, but I think he knows its a rocky road to get to that destination and you have to box clever. I believe come summer we shall see the ruthless side of Hughes emerge and there will be a massive clear out, and many of us will get a shock as to who actually leaves.

All this 'arm round the shoulder' stuff will go. Those who underestimated Yogi as a joker, a buffoon, will get a big fright when they contemplate life at Dunfermline, Raith Rovers and Airdrie, en route for East Fife, Stirling Albion and Annan Athletic, en route for the dole and a lifetime of drunken befuddlement in the less salubrious bars of Leith Walk.

If it's them or him, and the players seem to have made it into a contest, and there will only be one winner. If they think otherwise, they are absolutely deluding themselves. John Hughes can't come out and slag them off while we're in contention for Europe - that would really be the playing to the gallery some fans wrongly accuse him of- but they will be down the road in the summer. Everything about Hughes as a player and manager has shown that underestimating him is absolute folly.

They should enjoy the George Street sessions while they last, because some of them will soon be in the Walk, boring other jakeys with 'what might have been' tales. Anybody who thinks that will also be Yogi's fate is way, way wide of the mark. Whatever he says in public, the players have let him down badly, and they will pay the price.

If yogi still has the will to win he had as a player then yes, some players are in for a fright this summer. The "everybodys best pal" act is wearing a bit thin, but I think it will go once he gets a harder group of players in the squad.

[sahib]

I am no John Hughes fan but he is a much, much better manager than JC. Have you all forgotten the pathetic press conference with his pal feeding him the answers from behind an apple - that was an embarrassment to the club? Collins did get the squad to pull together and show team spirit and fight; unfortunately it was all directed towards him. I could carve a better manager out of a banana.

[Iain G]

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I am no John Hughes fan but he is a much, much better manager than JC. Have you all forgotten the pathetic press conference with his pal feeding him the answers from behind an apple - that was an embarrassment to the club? Collins did get the squad to pull together and show team spirit and fight; unfortunately it was all directed towards him. I could carve a better manager out of a banana.

Sorry mate, but in all fairness thats rubbish, Collins won us our first trophy in years and gave a lot of us one of our finest days at Hampden and you focus on that daft press conference??