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    Is there a slower defender in the league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchy View Post
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    Is there a slower defender in the league?
    Ian Murray?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Ian Murray?

    Havin a laugh I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Ian Murray?

    I`ve seen Murray charging up the wing on occasions, he also thinks a lot quicker, had a poor game last night though.

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    David Weir...I could go on.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by down-the-slope View Post
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    David Weir...I could go on.....
    Even that old codger would have outrun our defence last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erskine-hibby View Post
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    Havin a laugh I suspect.
    Yes sorry, I was.

    Just getting a bit bored of Hogg getting singled out at every opportunity.

    There are multiple reasons for our poor performance last night and in some of the recent matches.

    If people are going to over react after each defeat I would just like to see alternative threads pop up like:-

    Riordan - Is there a more light weight attacker in the league?
    Bamba - Is there a more 'clanger prone' defender in the league?
    Zemmama - Is there a more inconsistant and frustrating winger in the league?
    Nish - Is there a more ineffective target man in the league? (outwith Nade obviously)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Yes sorry, I was.

    Just getting a bit bored of Hogg getting singled out at every opportunity.

    There are multiple reasons for our poor performance last night and in some of the recent matches.

    If people are going to over react after each defeat I would just like to see alternative threads pop up like:-

    Riordan - Is there a more light weight attacker in the league?
    Bamba - Is there a more 'clanger prone' defender in the league?
    Zemmama - Is there a more inconsistant and frustrating winger in the league?
    Nish - Is there a more ineffective target man in the league? (outwith Nade obviously)
    Riordan- Is there a more out of position striker in the league?
    Bamba- is there a more 'hands on' defender in the league?
    Zemamma- Is there a more 'central' winger in the league?
    Nish- Say no more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by churchy View Post
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    Is there a worse defender in the league?
    Fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchy View Post
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    Is there a defender in the league?
    Final fix
    Last edited by SquashedFrogg; 18-02-2010 at 01:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number_10 View Post
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    Fixed

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    C'mon now,

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    Hoggy is never a right back in a month of Sundays and Yogi can surely recognise that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    Hoggy is never a right back in a month of Sundays and Yogi can surely recognise that.
    Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    Hoggy is never a right back in a month of Sundays and Yogi can surely recognise that.
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    Correct
    Quite obviously Yogi cannot spot the Hogg is never a right back or he wouldn't have played him there last night.

    I think Hogg is a decent central defender, but any time I've seen him play at right back it's been a disaster.

    Yogi would have been better with a back three rather than Hogg at right back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number_10 View Post
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    Fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Yes sorry, I was.

    Just getting a bit bored of Hogg getting singled out at every opportunity.

    There are multiple reasons for our poor performance last night and in some of the recent matches.

    If people are going to over react after each defeat I would just like to see alternative threads pop up like:-

    Riordan - Is there a more light weight attacker in the league?
    Bamba - Is there a more 'clanger prone' defender in the league?
    Zemmama - Is there a more inconsistant and frustrating winger in the league?
    Nish - Is there a more ineffective target man in the league? (outwith Nade obviously)

    Controversial, cannae really disagree though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoscoHibby View Post
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    Controversial, cannae really disagree though...
    Just don't see why Hogg should be made the scapegoat everytime, when clearly there are others in the team who could be singled out for not performing.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but has Bamba not given away to stupid penalties in the last two games?

    And have Murray, Hanlon and Bamba not been part of the same defence as Hogg that's lost 10 goals in their last 3 games?

    Not having a go at you mate just grumpy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Just don't see why Hogg should be made the scapegoat everytime, when clearly there are others in the team who could be singled out for not performing.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but has Bamba not given away to stupid penalties in the last two games?

    And have Murray, Hanlon and Bamba not been part of the same defence as Hogg that's lost 10 goals in their last 3 games?

    Not having a go at you mate just grumpy!
    No, just the one last night. The penalty against the huns was a dive, Bamba never touched him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    No, just the one last night. The penalty against the huns was a dive, Bamba never touched him.
    Alright I rephrase that.

    But he put himself in a position to give away a stupid penalty against Rangers by sticking his leg out when he was never getting the ball. Miller may have made a meal of it but Bamba still gave away a penalty.

    Likewise last night he gave away a stupid penalty by sticking his hand up and stopping the ball in the box.

    Two stupid penaties in the last two games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg View Post
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    Alright I rephrase that.

    But he put himself in a position to give away a stupid penalty against Rangers by sticking his leg out when he was never getting the ball. Miller may have made a meal of it but Bamba still gave away a penalty.

    Likewise last night he gave away a stupid penalty by sticking his hand up and stopping the ball in the box.

    Two stupid penaties in the last two games.
    He was never getting the man either, perhaps he should not have tried to shut him down either. A diver cheated to get that penalty. Just another excuse to have a pop at a player, when he's done nothing wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    He was never getting the man either, perhaps he should not have tried to shut him down either. A diver cheated to get that penalty. Just another excuse to have a pop at a player, when he's done nothing wrong.
    It's not an excuse to have a pop. I'm trying to point out that Hogg isn't the only defender at fault. It just so happens that Bamba has made the most individual mistakes recently.

    FWIW I'd prefer to see Bamba in midfield breaking up play and laying balls off (with the odd surging run forward)

    Either that or maybe tried out at right back?

    With what we've got at the moment I'd like to see Hogg/Murray in the centre with Hanlon left back and McCormack right back.

    Rankin left mid, Bamba, Miller, Wotherspoon.

    Stokes and Riordan up front.

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    Since Hogg has been right back-we have had 2 defeats. missing him in central defence???? calamaty bambi all over the place imo...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangermouse View Post
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    Quite obviously Yogi cannot spot the Hogg is never a right back or he wouldn't have played him there last night.

    I think Hogg is a decent central defender, but any time I've seen him play at right back it's been a disaster.

    Yogi would have been better with a back three rather than Hogg at right back.

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    I`ve lost count of the managers at ER and at International level that have played centre backs at right back, if we are resting Wotherspoon surely Thicot could have played there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchy View Post
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    I`ve lost count of the managers at ER and at International level that have played centre backs at right back, if we are resting Wotherspoon surely Thicot could have played there.
    Yep,my thoughts exactly. Yogi doesn't seem to like him for some reason.

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