Just bought over West Ham, am just watching there press conference on SSN, they are the type of guys you want running your club. Typical cockney business men who are great at whealing and dealing, who made most of their money in the porn industry.
They also said that they would be surprised if a Premier League club did not go into administration this season, the un-named have debts that are higher than the clubs values.
Any guesses?
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19-01-2010 11:58 AM #1Testimonial Due
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Sullivan and Gold
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19-01-2010 12:01 PM #2@hibs.net private member
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Great press conference.
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Who does everyone think the team in trouble are? Obviously portsmouth are one but i would not be surprised if a bigger team are in a lot of trouble
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I'm sure Hull city are in alot of trouble, might be them. Originally Posted by Hibbie_Cameron
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19-01-2010 12:03 PM #4First Team Regular
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Man Utd could also be in trouble
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19-01-2010 12:05 PM #5Left by mutual consent!
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Or two of the grubbiest examples of what's wrong with football come to smear their filth over a beautiful old lady like West Ham. Originally Posted by CB_NO3
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19-01-2010 12:09 PM #6Testimonial Due
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They are grubby, but they are old school businessman. Its surely better having them than some Yank or Arab whop does not have a clue about football. Originally Posted by Speedway
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19-01-2010 12:09 PM #7Coaching Staff
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Portsmouth are rooked. As are Hull.
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Could be a number of clubs...
Man U are asking THEIR PLAYERS (STARS) if they will pledge money back into the team.
Blocks of £50k with a 7% return.
for asking...
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I wish I agreed with you... Originally Posted by CB_NO3
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Definitely better than who was in charge before but I just dont trust them. They never fulfilled the promises they made while in charge at Birmingham and left them yo-yo-ing between the leagues. Karen Brady has also been (and possibly still is being) investigated for a few controversial dealings while at Birmingham and expectations of playing in the champions league sound far too similar to the crazy expectations of the previous owners. Not to mention that they are already talking of selling Upton Park in favour of moving to the Olympic Stadium after 2012.
On the other hand, they clearly love the club and as I said before they are an improvement on what they replaced. Only time will tell
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19-01-2010 12:12 PM #10Testimonial Due
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Man Utd are in serious trouble, but Man Utds assets are worth over a billion which are worth more than their debt so I dont think it will be them YET. Originally Posted by Delboy4
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Man U are asking THEIR PLAYERS (STARS) if they will pledge money back into the team.
Blocks of £50k with a 7% return.
for asking...
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19-01-2010 12:16 PM #11Testimonial Due
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Yeah, agree with you but I just can't believe them coming out with asking their players to fund the club. Originally Posted by CB_NO3
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19-01-2010 12:17 PM #12Coaching Staff
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Without a word of a lie I am far happier that we just have accountant types in charge!
There is no other model that works or will work long term than simply paying out only what you get in.
Yes, get the marketing guys and the business inded guys to think of ways of increasing the income on a sustained basis but get the basic numbers working!
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The lesser of two evils, definitely. Originally Posted by CB_NO3
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19-01-2010 12:29 PM #14@hibs.net private member
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No, they're not. Originally Posted by CB_NO3
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Definitely the Glazers are helping themselves to huge profits, but - for the time being at least - the club is pretty secure.
Liverpool are in more trouble, as they may drop out of the CL and Anfield just isn't bringing them enough to compete with the big boys. But this is probably a case of slow decline, rather than sudden shock.
Lots of other clubs are losing money though, without a billionaire to bail them out.
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Winning 3 titles in a row, being European and World Champions aswell as the league cup champions, runners up in the Champions League the following year, sell your best player for 80 million and they are now operating at a loss. Talk of selling Old Trafford and Carrington Road, that to me sounds like a team in trouble. They are paying 40 million a year in interest to this massive loan, thats not including the loan payments itself. The club itself is running at a profit and they had their record year in income. Originally Posted by jacomoseven
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If the fans can't run the club then boring businessmen as Andy 74 says are about as good as it gets.
BTW the Beeb is reporting that Portsmouth's attempt to overturn their winding up petition from the taxman has been dismissed.
Edit - report here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8468078.stm
Nice to see lawyers remain in touch with popular culture...Last edited by Liberal Hibby; 19-01-2010 at 12:58 PM.
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They have a 7 year plan tae get into the CL
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Balls being the common denominator
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19-01-2010 02:16 PM #20First Team Regular
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West Ham are now owned by TWO Arthur Daleys. Anyone know if either has a submarine licence ?
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I haven’t seen the interview.
How can you effectively own a football club you don’t have feelings for? How can they be West Ham owners if they are not in some way fans? If they're fans why did they buy Birmingham previously?
Perhaps being too close to your own club is a bit perilous, lots of examples of that, but owning someone else’s club just isn’t right, lots of examples of that too.
Its what wrong with football these days.
Yours sincerely
Right Auld Fashioned Supporter Who’s In A Bit Of A Grumpy Mood Today.
PS A couple of Arthur Daleys nearly turned us to dust!Space to let
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Lets all give them a big hand..... Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
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19-01-2010 03:33 PM #23Coaching Staff
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Originally Posted by CB_NO3
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Yeah they are a pair of diamond geezers all right, porn merchants ain't they
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19-01-2010 04:11 PM #24First Team Breakthrough
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They said a lot of people (shareholders) made money from the Birmingham deal, talking about 3 or 4 times the original money put in. perhaps they saw Birmingham as a business deal while not killing the club. Originally Posted by Jack
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Dont get me wrong, i think we have 1 of the top guys of scottish football running our club, but Sullivan and Gold arent exactly a bad couple either.
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Hmmm...........some might say that fannies are the common denominator. Originally Posted by DE-V8
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20-01-2010 03:27 AM #26Coaching Staff
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Originally Posted by Danny_Hibee
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S&G are the best that was on offer...
Birmingham were steadied and have a solid foundation because of them, however I would be very disappointed if Brady is installed, she is not a very good director and puts too much out into the public domain (as several people I know connected with football have said)
With the move to the Olympic stadium... well there must be a reason. UP probably wont bring in much and its not like the irons need to open up more seats... If the deal was similar to Man citys with the council and paying little in rent and renovation then it might be a good deal... I wouldnt want the Irons moving in my honest opinion as a supporter
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