Man u have paid out more in interest (£41m) on its debt than the jambos owe 'themselves' it lost £35m in gambling on hedging as the glazers milk the club dry to meet the debts the club borrowed to fund their purchase.
Reuters coverage here
Now if hawrts had debts like that edinburgh city would be the capital derby
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Thread: Man U money madness
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13-01-2010 07:28 PM #1
Man U money madness
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13-01-2010 07:42 PM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-01-2010 07:48 PM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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13-01-2010 07:49 PM #4
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The problem with Man U is that even if they have success every year they will still be toiling to get rid of that debt.
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13-01-2010 07:55 PM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So unless they sell £40m worth of talent per year and reach the latter stages of all their Cups then they return a loss.
Simply cannot continue.
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13-01-2010 08:01 PM #6
think in total the family have had the best part of £25 million in fees etc.
There is a complex set up of companies involved from which the family members get loans and fees etc. see here also
Man U are not really a football club football as well as 'global brand' selling shirts and DVDs they are a money making mechanism that has gone wrong. They are now selling corporate bonds to dig themselves out of a hole (more debt) and if the sale fails the money grubbing glazers may have to sell the club. Course if interest rates stay low then the rate they are offering to tempt bond buyers may be a further financial millstone.
Football should stick to football with only other business ventures that complement the football - gambling on derivatives and dodgy east european banks and mines are just a recipe for disaster
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14-01-2010 09:01 AM #7
I don't know if its just me, but football on the telly has become boring, so much so that i pick and choose my games now. When sky first came out, i'd watch any game, in fact no, i'd watch EVERY game.
Now I'm lucky to watch 2 a month, and have gone back to watching match of the day again. If that is normal, and is happening across the country, surely its only a matter of time before figures go down, so tv bids will come down too. I wonder if this scenario will happen, or are there enough new subscribers to offset my boredom, and people like me?
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14-01-2010 09:05 AM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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14-01-2010 10:09 AM #9I don't know if its just me, but football on the telly has become boring, so much so that i pick and choose my games now. When sky first came out, i'd watch any game, in fact no, i'd watch EVERY game.
Now I'm lucky to watch 2 a month, and have gone back to watching match of the day again. If that is normal, and is happening across the country, surely its only a matter of time before figures go down, so tv bids will come down too. I wonder if this scenario will happen, or are there enough new subscribers to offset my boredom, and people like me?
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14-01-2010 10:13 AM #10
I like in the clip when it says something along the lines of 'Abramovich has lost a few BILLION in the last couple of yrs but nothing to worry about'. Imagine having enough money that you could lose a few billion and it not be a problem!
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14-01-2010 10:48 AM #11
Sky bankrolling the EPL is like the finger in the dam scenario. It will all come crashing down one day
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14-01-2010 11:14 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
To be honest in the last 3 months of not having it, I've not been bothered at all, I've still got espn for most of the spl, and with the fa cup on itv, there's still more football than I can be bothered to watch anyway!
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14-01-2010 11:30 AM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As a result the bond issue is actually quite sensible; as they consolidate the debt and the bond dividend - not sure of the technical term - they pay is less than the interest they're currently paying; so much so that they can cut millions and millions off the interest they pay each year.
The other thing though, to do with the sky deal, is that clubs like man utd, want to rip up the sky deal and do what barca and real do, which is negotiate their own deal, rather than do it as a league. That way they don't need to subsidise the Burnley's of this world. I mean seriously Hibs would get more money than Burnley for their TV rights, if it was done this way - and probably a lot more!
There is currently something in the anti competition courts in the EU doing the rounds about this, with the potential to rip up these deals as being cartel like and therefore anti-competitive; and I bet the Glazers are partly hanging out for this, as if it were to happen, then Ka-Ching! Watch the money roll in for the club with the biggest fan base globally. Real get like £200m a year (if memory serves) from their TV right, which is about 4 times what Man U do.
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14-01-2010 11:46 AM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-01-2010 12:21 PM #15
It all is getting quite ridiculous and as mentioned will eventually come crashing down.
As I don't think there is any substitute for watching a live game (like most real football fans) I don't feel the need to pay for Sky and if I do watch football on TV, I go to a pub.
The novelty will wear off.
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14-01-2010 05:46 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Keep yanks out of British football!, they have no love for the sport and it's all money money money with them, look at Liverpool as well, a lesson to be learned here
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14-01-2010 06:00 PM #18
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The Glazers have wrecked Man U, and as pointed out if the Sky bubble ever bursts it will be RIP United. As a United armchair fan, it does annoy me that some lunatic pre crunch US bank gave the Glazers such monies. Better with a steady owner like Farmer than cheapskate conmen.
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