Falkirk now looking to sell Barr & Arfield (merged)

***Dibben*** · 15-11-2009 01:55 PM

I see the sport section of the Scotland on Sunday claims that Falkirk are now looking to sell both these players in January and bring in around 6 players to help them avoid relegation (including quote form Falkirk chairman!). Could this open the way to bring in both while giving several players to Falkirk to bolster their squad - perhaps the likes of Nish, Rankin or Thicot? Along with cash to sweeten the deal.

Hopefully with the 1/2 ST's selling well, we may have the money to improve the offer for Arfield.

Time will tell!

BH.

***CallumLaidlaw*** · 15-11-2009 02:29 PM

I suppose Arfield is definitely one for us for the next 2/3 seasons to fill Zemmamas boots. I still would like to see a left midfielder since galbraith isnt being given a shot, and a LB and/or CB

**~~Toaods~~** · 15-11-2009 02:33 PM

with the OF struggling, good timing by Falkirk IMHO.

They'll be hoping the OF move for certainly Arfield thus shoving the token offer HIbs will make needing to be increased.

**Tyler Durden** · 15-11-2009 02:45 PM

Having now signed the superior Liam Miller, I don't see the point in signing Arfield. Not sure he's any better than Wotherspoon.

If we're spending cash in January I'd much rather we went for Paul Caddis who is also in the papers today saying he's ready to give up on Celtic. He's out of contract in the summer aswell so sling them £2/300k and snap the boy up. Problem RB position solved.

**Earl of Currie** · 15-11-2009 02:46 PM

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I see the sport section of the Scotland on Sunday claims that Falkirk are now looking to sell both these players in January and bring in around 6 players to help them avoid relegation (including quote form Falkirk chairman!). Could this open the way to bring in both while giving several players to Falkirk to bolster their squad - perhaps the likes of Nish, Rankin or Thicot? Along with cash to sweeten the deal.

BH.

I like the idea of using fringe players as makeweights in any deals with Falkirk. It is also rumoured that Caddis from Celtic is wanting to leave in January. He is definitely one who could come into the team and add value.

**Wotherspiniesta** · 15-11-2009 02:47 PM

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Having now signed the superior Liam Miller, I don't see the point in signing Arfield. Not sure he's any better than Wotherspoon.

If we're spending cash in January I'd much rather we went for Paul Caddis who is also in the papers today saying he's ready to give up on Celtic. He's out of contract in the summer aswell so sling them £2/300k and snap the boy up. Problem RB position solved.

Caddis would be an excellent signing IMO

**sixtwo** · 15-11-2009 03:10 PM

Caddis is a great shout. I also think we could give killie £100k and nish for Kevin Kyle. He woul be an improvement on Nish and give us a different option to the strikers we already have.

Barr is a cert to come in January. Big Sol will be away for a month so we will need to have someone lined up to fill the cb slot.

If Sol has a good African nations tournament he might get the move to England that he wants!

**Petrie's Tache** · 15-11-2009 03:11 PM

Have said Caddis for a hwile now. Also Smith from Rangers and that allows Murray in to centre half next to Barr.

However Hanlon again won excellent praise for his performance last night, perhaps we do not need Barr at all.

Also want Galbraith in at LM, with Zemmama on the right.

**Earl of Currie** · 15-11-2009 03:43 PM

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Have said Caddis for a hwile now. Also Smith from Rangers and that allows Murray in to centre half next to Barr.

However Hanlon again won excellent praise for his performance last night, perhaps we do not need Barr at all.

Also want Galbraith in at LM, with Zemmama on the right.

Let Hanlon go back on loan in January , this time as a centre half. When he starts next season he can go into the CH role for the first team.

**~~Toaods~~** · 15-11-2009 03:54 PM

Hanlon on loan to falkirk for 6 mths would suit all parties:

Falkirk get a good, hungry, young prospect.

Hanlon gets experience (likely be busy during his 90 minutes)

Hibs - get a player back with a bit more SPL gametime under his belt.

***scoopyboy*** · 15-11-2009 04:01 PM

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Caddis would be an excellent signing IMO

Depends how much Celtic would want.

As he is under 24 we would have to pay a transfer fee which is based on his salary.

**18/03/07** · 15-11-2009 04:02 PM

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Caddis is a great shout. I also think we could give killie £100k and nish for Kevin Kyle. He woul be an improvement on Nish and give us a different option to the strikers we already have.

Barr is a cert to come in January. Big Sol will be away for a month so we will need to have someone lined up to fill the cb slot.

If Sol has a good African nations tournament he might get the move to England that he wants!

Barr is no a cert to come,he may be heading to the west to join the debt ridden huns

***Dibben*** · 15-11-2009 04:03 PM

Hanlon to Falkirk on loan is a good shout, especially if he is slightly out the picture for the LB slot!

So thats Barr, Arfield, Kyle, Caddis & Smith all coming in with 2 or 3 fringe players leaving! Sounds no bad... :-)

BH.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 15-11-2009 04:11 PM

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Hanlon to Falkirk on loan is a good shout, especially if he is slightly out the picture for the LB slot!

So thats Barr, Arfield, Kyle, Caddis & Smith all coming in with 2 or 3 fringe players leaving! Sounds no bad... :-)

BH.

You have forgotten about Skacel and Voltz. Champions league here we come.

**~~PISTOL1875~~** · 15-11-2009 04:14 PM

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Having now signed the superior Liam Miller, I don't see the point in signing Arfield. Not sure he's any better than Wotherspoon.

If we're spending cash in January I'd much rather we went for Paul Caddis who is also in the papers today saying he's ready to give up on Celtic. He's out of contract in the summer aswell so sling them £2/300k and snap the boy up. Problem RB position solved.

Spot on there.. I don't see the point in signing Arfield either since we are fine in midfield.. A new RB is a must and it's quite likely that Barr will fill that role.. The only question is will it be in January or in the summer....

***scoopyboy*** · 15-11-2009 04:27 PM

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Spot on there.. I don't see the point in signing Arfield either since we are fine in midfield.. A new RB is a must and it's quite likely that Barr will fill that role.. The only question is will it be in January or in the summer....

I think Arfield is far better than John Rankin or Lewis Stevenson and I would take him in a minute. We need a squad not the bare minimum.

Agree regarding right back although not sure Yogi would plat Barr there.

***Dibben*** · 15-11-2009 04:28 PM

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You have forgotten about Skacel and Voltz. Champions league here we come.

BH.

**hibeesteve** · 15-11-2009 04:29 PM

Is it just me that thinks we shouldn't be spending alot of money on this guy??? Not often we have money to spend and I think we should spend it wisely! Just read that someone on here sees him as a long term replacement for zemmama!!

Seems that alot of people are judging him purely on over enthusiastic media coverage. As a Hibs fan living in Falkirk ive had the misfortune of being dragged to a few Falkirk games over the last couple of years and have seen enough of Arfield to say that hes a DECENT young player. Someone that will fight for the ball and has plenty of energy. Fair enough hes still young and has the opportunity to improve his game but I think spending alot of money on him would be foolish.

Be interesting to know whether any of you have seen him play more than once???

***scoopyboy*** · 15-11-2009 04:52 PM

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Is it just me that thinks we shouldn't be spending alot of money on this guy??? Not often we have money to spend and I think we should spend it wisely! Just read that someone on here sees him as a long term replacement for zemmama!!

Seems that alot of people are judging him purely on over enthusiastic media coverage. As a Hibs fan living in Falkirk ive had the misfortune of being dragged to a few Falkirk games over the last couple of years and have seen enough of Arfield to say that hes a DECENT young player. Someone that will fight for the ball and has plenty of energy. Fair enough hes still young and has the opportunity to improve his game but I think spending alot of money on him would be foolish.

Be interesting to know whether any of you have seen him play more than once???

I have seen him at least half a dozen times, either with Falkirk or Scotland under 21s. I rate him.

I don't think we will spend a lot of money on him, if an auction starts we will drop out.

It might be a last minute signing in January if at all.

**mcfly** · 15-11-2009 05:03 PM

we will never ever get a better chance to split the OF.

I'd like us to show a bit ambition, sign a centre half and it could be a great season.

the OF are struggling.....rangers will sign no-one and celtic will win nowt with mcmanus and caldwell at the back if they keep playing as well as they did yesterday.

***whiskyhibby*** · 15-11-2009 05:47 PM

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Hanlon on loan to falkirk for 6 mths would suit all parties:

Falkirk get a good, hungry, young prospect.

Hanlon gets experience (likely be busy during his 90 minutes)

Hibs - get a player back with a bit more SPL gametime under his belt.

Could not agree more......as long as we contract not to be available for the Hibs

***Stonewall*** · 15-11-2009 05:54 PM

Do we have money to spend though?

***scoopyboy*** · 15-11-2009 05:56 PM

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Do we have money to spend though?

As far as I'm aware no one has considered we may have to sell to cover the outlay for Stokes and Miller.

***Hibby Kay-Yay*** · 15-11-2009 05:58 PM

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we will never ever get a better chance to split the OF.

I'd like us to show a bit ambition, sign a centre half and it could be a great season.

the OF are struggling.....rangers will sign no-one and celtic will win nowt with mcmanus and caldwell at the back if they keep playing as well as they did yesterday.

Like signing Liam Miller and Anthony Stokes?

***greenlex*** · 15-11-2009 06:19 PM

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Having now signed the superior Liam Miller, I don't see the point in signing Arfield. Not sure he's any better than Wotherspoon.

If we're spending cash in January I'd much rather we went for Paul Caddis who is also in the papers today saying he's ready to give up on Celtic. He's out of contract in the summer aswell so sling them £2/300k and snap the boy up. Problem RB position solved.

Problem? Wotherspoon is doing just fine and McCann is in the wings. If we sign a right back it will be for cover IMO with McCann on his way..

**~~Judas Iscariot~~** · 15-11-2009 06:35 PM

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I think Arfield is far better than John Rankin or Lewis Stevenson and I would take him in a minute. We need a squad not the bare minimum.

Agree regarding right back although not sure Yogi would plat Barr there.

Arfield is a tremendous prospect and would flourish in this Hibs team

***erin go bragh*** · 15-11-2009 06:45 PM

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Caddis is a great shout. I also think we could give killie £100k and nish for Kevin Kyle. He woul be an improvement on Nish and give us a different option to the strikers we already have.

Barr is a cert to come in January. Big Sol will be away for a month so we will need to have someone lined up to fill the cb slot.

If Sol has a good African nations tournament he might get the move to England that he wants!

hanlon has been playing superb at ch for the under 21s.
yogi will be well aware of it

***Jack*** · 15-11-2009 07:25 PM

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Like signing Liam Miller and Anthony Stokes?

I would like to see us get similar to these guys on pre-contract. Nothing against Barr and Arfield but that to me would be ambition.

***millarco*** · 15-11-2009 08:01 PM

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Problem? Wotherspoon is doing just fine and McCann is in the wings. If we sign a right back it will be for cover IMO with McCann on his way..

He's doing fine but he's wasted at right-back IMO. He was putting in MOTM performances at the start of the season in midfield. Wotherspoon on the right, push Zemmama more central and get Benji to fight it out with Stokes for a slot up front, with Riordan/Galbraith on the left.

**monktonharp** · 15-11-2009 08:35 PM

I love all this stuff,but are we not getting a wee bit ahead of ourselves? Yogi will obviously rate thes 2 young Falkirk guys,but the OF,PROBABLY der hun,will have their eye on them too. still it would be great to have so much options/cover for these positions. Just dont see the 2 aforementioned being at ER.